Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Liam Girdwood
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 08:01 -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
> 
> On 11/25/14 06:28, Liam Girdwood wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang  wrote:
> >>> The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID "RT5677CE",
> >>> which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
> >>> data to be obtained via ACPI
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang 
> >>
> >> This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
> >> bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
> >> documented in the kernel under
> >> Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
> >> for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
> >> Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
> >> is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
> >> data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.
> >>
> >> [1] 
> >> http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf
> >>
> >> For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
> >> documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
> >> one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
> >> drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
> >> either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
> >> has the binding documented.
> >>
> >> Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
> >> device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.
> >>
> > 
> > My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
> > properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
> > Windows too !
> > 
> 
> The Windows folks definitely know about _DSD (and helped define it), so
> this is a good opportunity to work through that process. Liam, do you
> have a good contact to start that discussion?
> 

I do, I've contacted them off-list to align on this with Realtek.

Liam


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Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Darren Hart


On 11/25/14 06:28, Liam Girdwood wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang  wrote:
>>> The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID "RT5677CE",
>>> which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
>>> data to be obtained via ACPI
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang 
>>
>> This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
>> bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
>> documented in the kernel under
>> Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
>> for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
>> Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
>> is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
>> data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf
>>
>> For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
>> documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
>> one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
>> drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
>> either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
>> has the binding documented.
>>
>> Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
>> device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.
>>
> 
> My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
> properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
> Windows too !
> 

The Windows folks definitely know about _DSD (and helped define it), so
this is a good opportunity to work through that process. Liam, do you
have a good contact to start that discussion?


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Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Liam Girdwood
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang  wrote:
> > The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID "RT5677CE",
> > which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
> > data to be obtained via ACPI
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang 
> 
> This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
> bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
> documented in the kernel under
> Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
> for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
> Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
> is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
> data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf
> 
> For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
> documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
> one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
> drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
> either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
> has the binding documented.
> 
> Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
> device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.
> 

My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
Windows too !

Liam


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Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Liam Girdwood
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org wrote:
  The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID RT5677CE,
  which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
  data to be obtained via ACPI
 
  Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org
 
 This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
 bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
 documented in the kernel under
 Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
 for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
 Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
 is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
 data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.
 
 [1] 
 http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf
 
 For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
 documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
 one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
 drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
 either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
 has the binding documented.
 
 Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
 device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.
 

My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
Windows too !

Liam


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Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Darren Hart


On 11/25/14 06:28, Liam Girdwood wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org wrote:
 The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID RT5677CE,
 which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
 data to be obtained via ACPI

 Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org

 This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
 bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
 documented in the kernel under
 Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
 for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
 Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
 is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
 data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.

 [1] 
 http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf

 For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
 documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
 one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
 drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
 either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
 has the binding documented.

 Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
 device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.

 
 My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
 properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
 Windows too !
 

The Windows folks definitely know about _DSD (and helped define it), so
this is a good opportunity to work through that process. Liam, do you
have a good contact to start that discussion?


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Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/2] ASoC: rt5677: Add ACPI device probing

2014-11-25 Thread Liam Girdwood
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 08:01 -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
 
 On 11/25/14 06:28, Liam Girdwood wrote:
  On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 12:11 +, Grant Likely wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org wrote:
  The rt5677 codec driver looks for ACPI device ID RT5677CE,
  which is specified in coreboot. This patch allows platform
  data to be obtained via ACPI
 
  Signed-off-by: Ben Zhang be...@chromium.org
 
  This looks like an ideal time to talk about shared DT and ACPI driver
  bindings. This driver /already/ has a firmware binding. It is
  documented in the kernel under
  Documentation/bindings/sound/rt5677.txt. We now have a standard method
  for sharing bindings between DT and ACPI in the _DSD method[1].
  Support for DSD is in linux-next and getting merged into v3.19. This
  is exactly the case that _DSD should be used for passing additional
  data to the driver, and it should use the existing binding.
 
  [1] 
  http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/_DSD-device-properties-UUID.pdf
 
  For a long time we've had the rule on DT that new bindings must be
  documented before we merge a patch. That rule I think has been a good
  one, even if it is a little chaoitc. I think when it comes to ACPI
  drivers that we should be requiring the same: Document the binding,
  either in the kernel as a DT binding, or point to somewhere else that
  has the binding documented.
 
  Also, since this patch is targeted at v3.19 or later, the
  device-properties API should be used. Don't create something custom.
 
  
  My sentiments exactly, there would be little point having bespoke device
  properties for every single device. Btw, we also need to align here with
  Windows too !
  
 
 The Windows folks definitely know about _DSD (and helped define it), so
 this is a good opportunity to work through that process. Liam, do you
 have a good contact to start that discussion?
 

I do, I've contacted them off-list to align on this with Realtek.

Liam


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