Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Hugh Dickins
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> 
> > > > Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be 
> > > > mapped
> > > > and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
> > > > '!page_mapping(page) && page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
> > > > *normal*
> > > > anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
> > > page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
> > > __isolate_lru_page()?
> > 
> > Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that 
> > all
> > mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
> > __isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?
> > 
> 
> Ah, good point.  I wonder if we can get away with 
> page_count(page) - page_mapcount(page) > 1 to avoid the get_user_pages() 
> pin?

Something like that.  But please go back to migrate_page_move_mapping()
to factor in what it's additionally considering.  Whether you can share
code with it, I don't know - it has to do some things under a lock you
cannot take at the preliminary stage - you haven't isolated or locked
the page yet.

There is a separate issue, that a mapping may supply its own non-default
mapping->a_ops->migratepage(): can we assume that the page_counting is
the same whatever migratepage() is in use?  I'm not sure.

If you stick to special-casing PageAnon pages, you won't face that
issue; but your proposed change would be a lot more satisfying if we
can convince ourselves that it's good for !PageAnon too.  May need a
trawl through the different migratepage() methods that exist in tree.

Hugh
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

> > > Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be 
> > > mapped
> > > and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
> > > '!page_mapping(page) && page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
> > > *normal*
> > > anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
> > > 
> > 
> > So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
> > page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
> > __isolate_lru_page()?
> 
> Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that all
> mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
> __isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?
> 

Ah, good point.  I wonder if we can get away with 
page_count(page) - page_mapcount(page) > 1 to avoid the get_user_pages() 
pin?
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Joonsoo Kim
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 06:00:56PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> 
> > Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
> > and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
> > '!page_mapping(page) && page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
> > *normal*
> > anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
> > 
> 
> So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
> page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
> __isolate_lru_page()?

Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that all
mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
__isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?

Thanks.
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

> Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
> and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
> '!page_mapping(page) && page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these *normal*
> anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
> 

So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
__isolate_lru_page()?
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Joonsoo Kim
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:20:46PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> 
> > I think that you need more code to skip this type of page correctly.
> > Without page_mapped() check, this code makes migratable pages be skipped,
> > since if page_mapped() case, page_count() may be more than zero.
> > 
> > So I think that you need following change.
> > 
> > (!page_mapping(page) && !page_mapped(page) && page_count(page))
> > 
> 
> These pages returned by get_user_pages() will have a mapcount of 1 so this 
> wouldn't actually fix the massive lock contention.  page_mapping() is only 
> going to be NULL for pages off the lru like these are for 
> PAGE_MAPPING_ANON.

Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
'!page_mapping(page) && page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these *normal*
anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.

Thanks.
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[patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

> I think that you need more code to skip this type of page correctly.
> Without page_mapped() check, this code makes migratable pages be skipped,
> since if page_mapped() case, page_count() may be more than zero.
> 
> So I think that you need following change.
> 
> (!page_mapping(page) && !page_mapped(page) && page_count(page))
> 

These pages returned by get_user_pages() will have a mapcount of 1 so this 
wouldn't actually fix the massive lock contention.  page_mapping() is only 
going to be NULL for pages off the lru like these are for 
PAGE_MAPPING_ANON.
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[patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

 I think that you need more code to skip this type of page correctly.
 Without page_mapped() check, this code makes migratable pages be skipped,
 since if page_mapped() case, page_count() may be more than zero.
 
 So I think that you need following change.
 
 (!page_mapping(page)  !page_mapped(page)  page_count(page))
 

These pages returned by get_user_pages() will have a mapcount of 1 so this 
wouldn't actually fix the massive lock contention.  page_mapping() is only 
going to be NULL for pages off the lru like these are for 
PAGE_MAPPING_ANON.
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Joonsoo Kim
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:20:46PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
 
  I think that you need more code to skip this type of page correctly.
  Without page_mapped() check, this code makes migratable pages be skipped,
  since if page_mapped() case, page_count() may be more than zero.
  
  So I think that you need following change.
  
  (!page_mapping(page)  !page_mapped(page)  page_count(page))
  
 
 These pages returned by get_user_pages() will have a mapcount of 1 so this 
 wouldn't actually fix the massive lock contention.  page_mapping() is only 
 going to be NULL for pages off the lru like these are for 
 PAGE_MAPPING_ANON.

Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
'!page_mapping(page)  page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these *normal*
anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.

Thanks.
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

 Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
 and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
 '!page_mapping(page)  page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these *normal*
 anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
 

So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
__isolate_lru_page()?
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Joonsoo Kim
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 06:00:56PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
 
  Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be mapped
  and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
  '!page_mapping(page)  page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
  *normal*
  anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
  
 
 So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
 page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
 __isolate_lru_page()?

Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that all
mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
__isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?

Thanks.
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread David Rientjes
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:

   Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be 
   mapped
   and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
   '!page_mapping(page)  page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
   *normal*
   anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.
   
  
  So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
  page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
  __isolate_lru_page()?
 
 Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that all
 mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
 __isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?
 

Ah, good point.  I wonder if we can get away with 
page_count(page) - page_mapcount(page)  1 to avoid the get_user_pages() 
pin?
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Re: [patch] mm, compaction: avoid isolating pinned pages fix

2014-02-03 Thread Hugh Dickins
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, David Rientjes wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
 
Okay. It can't fix your situation. Anyway, *normal* anon pages may be 
mapped
and have positive page_count(), so your code such as
'!page_mapping(page)  page_count(page)' makes compaction skip these 
*normal*
anon pages and this is incorrect behaviour.

   
   So how does that work with migrate_page_move_mapping() which demands 
   page_count(page) == 1 and the get_page_unless_zero() in 
   __isolate_lru_page()?
  
  Before doing migrate_page_move_mapping(), try_to_unmap() is called so that 
  all
  mapping is unmapped. Then, remained page_count() is 1 which is grabbed by
  __isolate_lru_page(). Am I missing something?
  
 
 Ah, good point.  I wonder if we can get away with 
 page_count(page) - page_mapcount(page)  1 to avoid the get_user_pages() 
 pin?

Something like that.  But please go back to migrate_page_move_mapping()
to factor in what it's additionally considering.  Whether you can share
code with it, I don't know - it has to do some things under a lock you
cannot take at the preliminary stage - you haven't isolated or locked
the page yet.

There is a separate issue, that a mapping may supply its own non-default
mapping-a_ops-migratepage(): can we assume that the page_counting is
the same whatever migratepage() is in use?  I'm not sure.

If you stick to special-casing PageAnon pages, you won't face that
issue; but your proposed change would be a lot more satisfying if we
can convince ourselves that it's good for !PageAnon too.  May need a
trawl through the different migratepage() methods that exist in tree.

Hugh
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