RE: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-16 Thread Mehaffey, John
> From: Lennart Poettering [mzxre...@0pointer.de]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:33 AM
> On Wed, 15.05.13 15:01, Mehaffey, John (john_mehaf...@mentor.com) wrote:
> 
> > > What if we merge the proposals?
> > >
> > > John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the "Boot
> > > and Core OS" track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lucas De Marchi
> >
> > Hi Lucas, Lennart,
> > I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to 
> > have it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is 
> > enough material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.
> >
> > It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os 
> > microconf, so I proposed fastboot as separate.
> 
> Let's merge this then (the LPC guys want this to).
> 
> We could copy the stuff from the fastboot MC wiki page into the
> boot/core OS wiki page, or the other way round. And preference? I'd
> still call this "Boot and Core OS MC" as this has the slightler broader
> topic, I guess...
> 
> Lennart
> 
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Hi Lennart,
I have merged the topics from the fastboot proposal to the Boot and Core OS 
proposal.

Please take a look and make any improvements.

I am keeping the fastboot proposal on the wiki as reference material for now, 
but I have linked it to the Boot and Core OS page.

-mehaf

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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 15.05.13 15:01, Mehaffey, John (john_mehaf...@mentor.com) wrote:

> > What if we merge the proposals?
> > 
> > John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the "Boot
> > and Core OS" track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
> > 
> > 
> > Lucas De Marchi
> 
> Hi Lucas, Lennart,
> I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to have 
> it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is enough 
> material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.
> 
> It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os 
> microconf, so I proposed fastboot as separate.

Let's merge this then (the LPC guys want this to).

We could copy the stuff from the fastboot MC wiki page into the
boot/core OS wiki page, or the other way round. And preference? I'd
still call this "Boot and Core OS MC" as this has the slightler broader
topic, I guess...

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 15.05.13 15:01, Mehaffey, John (john_mehaf...@mentor.com) wrote:

  What if we merge the proposals?
  
  John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the Boot
  and Core OS track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
  
  
  Lucas De Marchi
 
 Hi Lucas, Lennart,
 I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to have 
 it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is enough 
 material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.
 
 It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os 
 microconf, so I proposed fastboot as separate.

Let's merge this then (the LPC guys want this to).

We could copy the stuff from the fastboot MC wiki page into the
boot/core OS wiki page, or the other way round. And preference? I'd
still call this Boot and Core OS MC as this has the slightler broader
topic, I guess...

Lennart

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RE: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-16 Thread Mehaffey, John
 From: Lennart Poettering [mzxre...@0pointer.de]
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:33 AM
 On Wed, 15.05.13 15:01, Mehaffey, John (john_mehaf...@mentor.com) wrote:
 
   What if we merge the proposals?
  
   John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the Boot
   and Core OS track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
  
  
   Lucas De Marchi
 
  Hi Lucas, Lennart,
  I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to 
  have it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is 
  enough material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.
 
  It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os 
  microconf, so I proposed fastboot as separate.
 
 Let's merge this then (the LPC guys want this to).
 
 We could copy the stuff from the fastboot MC wiki page into the
 boot/core OS wiki page, or the other way round. And preference? I'd
 still call this Boot and Core OS MC as this has the slightler broader
 topic, I guess...
 
 Lennart
 
 --
 Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

Hi Lennart,
I have merged the topics from the fastboot proposal to the Boot and Core OS 
proposal.

Please take a look and make any improvements.

I am keeping the fastboot proposal on the wiki as reference material for now, 
but I have linked it to the Boot and Core OS page.

-mehaf

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RE: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Mehaffey, John
> From: Lucas De Marchi [lucas.de.mar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:04 AM
>  
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Lennart Poettering
>  wrote:
> > On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello All,
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hey John!
> >>
> >>
> >> > I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
> >> > conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times 
> >> > for
> >> > a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
> >> > and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
> >> > including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
> >> >
> >> > Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures 
> >> > so
> >> > I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
> >> >
> >> > Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
> >> > information or if you want to submit a topic.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
> >> http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive
> >>
> >> I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
> >> the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
> >> microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
> >> ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
> >> microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
> >> other if they're competing tracks.
> >>
> >> Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?
> >
> >
> > BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:
> >
> > http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os
> >
> > which sounds pretty close to fastboot?
> >
> 
> What if we merge the proposals?
> 
> John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the "Boot
> and Core OS" track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
> 
> 
> Lucas De Marchi

Hi Lucas, Lennart,
I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to have 
it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is enough 
material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.

It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os microconf, 
so I proposed fastboot as separate.

Jeremiah, you bring up a good point about overlapping interest, probably when a 
proposal is accepted, we will need to point out potential scheduling conflicts 
with other accepted microconfs to the program committee.

Sincerely,
John Mehaffey
Senior System Architect (Automotive)
Mentor Graphics Corporation
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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Lennart Poettering
 wrote:
> On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>>
>> Hey John!
>>
>>
>> > I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
>> > conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times for
>> > a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
>> > and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
>> > including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
>> >
>> > Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures so
>> > I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
>> >
>> > Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
>> > information or if you want to submit a topic.
>> >
>>
>> I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
>> http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive
>>
>> I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
>> the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
>> microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
>> ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
>> microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
>> other if they're competing tracks.
>>
>> Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?
>
>
> BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:
>
> http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os
>
> which sounds pretty close to fastboot?
>

What if we merge the proposals?

John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the "Boot
and Core OS" track? I could help with the module-related part, too.


Lucas De Marchi
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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello All,
> >
> 
> Hey John!
> 
> 
> > I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
> > conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times for
> > a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
> > and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
> > including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
> >
> > Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures so
> > I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
> >
> > Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
> > information or if you want to submit a topic.
> >
> 
> I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
> http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive
> 
> I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
> the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
> microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
> ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
> microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
> other if they're competing tracks.
> 
> Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?


BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:

http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os

which sounds pretty close to fastboot?

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) wrote:

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
 john_mehaf...@mentor.comwrote:
 
  Hello All,
 
 
 Hey John!
 
 
  I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
  conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times for
  a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
  and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
  including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
 
  Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures so
  I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
 
  Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
  information or if you want to submit a topic.
 
 
 I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
 http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive
 
 I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
 the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
 microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
 ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
 microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
 other if they're competing tracks.
 
 Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?


BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:

http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os

which sounds pretty close to fastboot?

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzxre...@0pointer.de wrote:
 On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) 
 wrote:

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
 john_mehaf...@mentor.comwrote:

  Hello All,
 

 Hey John!


  I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
  conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times for
  a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
  and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
  including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
 
  Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures so
  I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
 
  Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
  information or if you want to submit a topic.
 

 I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
 http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive

 I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
 the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
 microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
 ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
 microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
 other if they're competing tracks.

 Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?


 BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:

 http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os

 which sounds pretty close to fastboot?


What if we merge the proposals?

John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the Boot
and Core OS track? I could help with the module-related part, too.


Lucas De Marchi
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RE: [systemd-devel] 2013 Plumber's CFP: Fastboot

2013-05-15 Thread Mehaffey, John
 From: Lucas De Marchi [lucas.de.mar...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:04 AM
  
 On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Lennart Poettering
 mzxre...@0pointer.de wrote:
  On Wed, 15.05.13 11:43, Jeremiah Foster (jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com) 
  wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mehaffey, John 
  john_mehaf...@mentor.comwrote:
 
   Hello All,
  
 
  Hey John!
 
 
   I am proposing a microconference on fastboot at the Linux Plumber's
   conference 2013 in New Orleans. The goal is to get to sub 1S boot times 
   for
   a large (IVI) system using NAND flash. This pushes the state of the art,
   and will require innovative solutions in may areas of Linux plumbing,
   including bootloader, kernel init, UBI, and systemd.
  
   Note that fastboot improvements will (generally) help all architectures 
   so
   I am not limiting this to automotive systems.
  
   Please visit http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:fastboot for more
   information or if you want to submit a topic.
  
 
  I've linked to your micrconference from the automotive microconference:
  http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:automotive
 
  I'm a bit confused about the LPC format though. John, is it planned to have
  the non-Android fastboot discussion as part of the automotive
  microconference or is this separate (despite its automotive relevance.) I
  ask because it might be nice to have the participants in both
  microconferences and it would be a shame to lose attendees to one or the
  other if they're competing tracks.
 
  Can someone clue me in to the microconference format as regards LPC?
 
 
  BTW, there's also this MC we proposed:
 
  http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:boot_and_core_os
 
  which sounds pretty close to fastboot?
 
 
 What if we merge the proposals?
 
 John, are you ok with proposing (some of) these topics in the Boot
 and Core OS track? I could help with the module-related part, too.
 
 
 Lucas De Marchi

Hi Lucas, Lennart,
I am fine with merging the two boot related sessions.  I did not want to have 
it be a topic in the automotive microconf, as I believe there is enough 
material for a couple of hours on fastboot alone.

It was not clear to me what topics might be in the boot and core os microconf, 
so I proposed fastboot as separate.

Jeremiah, you bring up a good point about overlapping interest, probably when a 
proposal is accepted, we will need to point out potential scheduling conflicts 
with other accepted microconfs to the program committee.

Sincerely,
John Mehaffey
Senior System Architect (Automotive)
Mentor Graphics Corporation
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