Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-12-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:58:32AM +0100, Oliver Endriss wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > > > DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only 
> > > > > > option
> > > > > > that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file 
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > build-time into the kernel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> > > > > > request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
> > > > > into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
> > > > > that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
> > > mounted?
> > 
> > Sure.
> 
> And you have to create an initrd for the firmware!
> 
> As I wrote before: 
> I NAK any attempt to remove this option.
> 
> The option _is_ useful because it allows a user to build an av7110 driver
> without hotplug, initrd etc.
> 
> Nobody has to use this option, but it should be possible to do so.

Sorry, but the direction of kernel development is to replace statically 
into the kernel compiled firmware (that also brings some non-trivial 
legal questions - is distributing such a kernel a violation of the GPL?)
with request_firmware().

> CU
> Oliver

cu
Adrian

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-12-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:58:32AM +0100, Oliver Endriss wrote:
 Adrian Bunk wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
   On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only 
  option
  that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file 
  at
  build-time into the kernel.
 
  This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
  request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.

 Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
 into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
 that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
   
No.
No.
   
request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
   
   Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
   mounted?
  
  Sure.
 
 And you have to create an initrd for the firmware!
 
 As I wrote before: 
 I NAK any attempt to remove this option.
 
 The option _is_ useful because it allows a user to build an av7110 driver
 without hotplug, initrd etc.
 
 Nobody has to use this option, but it should be possible to do so.

Sorry, but the direction of kernel development is to replace statically 
into the kernel compiled firmware (that also brings some non-trivial 
legal questions - is distributing such a kernel a violation of the GPL?)
with request_firmware().

 CU
 Oliver

cu
Adrian

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-29 Thread Oliver Endriss
Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > > DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
> > > > > that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
> > > > > build-time into the kernel.
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> > > > > request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
> > > > into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
> > > > that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
> > >
> > > No.
> > > No.
> > >
> > > request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
> > 
> > Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
> > mounted?
> 
> Sure.

And you have to create an initrd for the firmware!

As I wrote before: 
I NAK any attempt to remove this option.

The option _is_ useful because it allows a user to build an av7110 driver
without hotplug, initrd etc.

Nobody has to use this option, but it should be possible to do so.

CU
Oliver

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-29 Thread Oliver Endriss
Adrian Bunk wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
  On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
   On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
 that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
 build-time into the kernel.

 This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
 request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
   
Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
  
   No.
   No.
  
   request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
  
  Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
  mounted?
 
 Sure.

And you have to create an initrd for the firmware!

As I wrote before: 
I NAK any attempt to remove this option.

The option _is_ useful because it allows a user to build an av7110 driver
without hotplug, initrd etc.

Nobody has to use this option, but it should be possible to do so.

CU
Oliver

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
> > > > that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
> > > > build-time into the kernel.
> > > >
> > > > This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> > > > request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
> > >
> > > Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
> > > into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
> > > that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
> >
> > No.
> > No.
> >
> > request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
> 
> Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
> mounted?

Sure.

cu
Adrian

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Piepho
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
> > > that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
> > > build-time into the kernel.
> > >
> > > This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> > > request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
> >
> > Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
> > into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
> > that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
>
> No.
> No.
>
> request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.

Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
mounted?
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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
> > that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
> > build-time into the kernel.
> >
> > This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> > request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
> 
> Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
> into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
> that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?

No.
No.

request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.

cu
Adrian

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Piepho
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
> that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
> build-time into the kernel.
>
> This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
> request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.

Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Piepho
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
 that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
 build-time into the kernel.

 This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
 request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.

Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
  that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
  build-time into the kernel.
 
  This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
  request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
 
 Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
 into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
 that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?

No.
No.

request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.

cu
Adrian

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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Piepho
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
  On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
   DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
   that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
   build-time into the kernel.
  
   This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
   request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
 
  Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
  into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
  that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?

 No.
 No.

 request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.

Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
mounted?
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Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [2.6 patch] remove DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE

2006-11-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 01:06:02PM -0800, Trent Piepho wrote:
   On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE was (except for some OSS drivers) the only option
that was still compiling a binary-only user-supplied firmware file at
build-time into the kernel.
   
This patch changes the driver to always use the standard
request_firmware() way for firmware by removing DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE.
  
   Doesn't this also prevent the AV7110 module from getting compiled
   into the kernel?  Shouldn't the Kconfig file be adjusted so
   that 'y' can't be selected anymore and it depends on MODULES?
 
  No.
  No.
 
  request_firmware() works fine for built-in drivers.
 
 Wouldn't that require loading the firmware file before the filesystems are
 mounted?

Sure.

cu
Adrian

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