Re: Mail admin notice my 2 cents

2001-05-20 Thread Mohammad A. Haque

Richard Reynolds wrote:
> 
> I would have never signed up for this list, or any other if it didn't give me at
> least a few hours worth of email bouncing neither myself, or usa.net is up
> 24/7/365, and i wouldn't expect that everyone has a dedicated email server, for
> almost any list. plus I have had many problems with the @home's email servers,
> if I relied on them I would probibly have been kicked off quite some time ago.
> 


Any _service_ that offers email _should_ have backup MX servers in
place. Anythign less is  ..well.. stupid. 

If you're not a service provider and hostyour own dns/mail server, it's
your own choice. After all, you'll only be losing your own email and not
other people's email.


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Re: Mail admin notice my 2 cents

2001-05-20 Thread Richard Reynolds

I would have never signed up for this list, or any other if it didn't give me at
least a few hours worth of email bouncing neither myself, or usa.net is up
24/7/365, and i wouldn't expect that everyone has a dedicated email server, for
almost any list. plus I have had many problems with the @home's email servers,
if I relied on them I would probibly have been kicked off quite some time ago.

well thats my 2cents
Richard Reynolds
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On Sun, 20 May 2001, Matti Aarnio wrote:

> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:05:45 +0300
> From: Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Shawn Starr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Mail admin notice
> 
> On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:28:24AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:
> > >My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
> > >fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
> > >domain/dns/mail etc).
> 
>   There is 3d+ some hours grace period during which vger
>   doesn't need to be able to feed email to destination
>   system, BUT AFTER THAT STARTS BOUNCING.
>   (To  linux-kernel-owner, NOT to the list itself!)
> 
>   Alan Cox was awhile back offline for 2-3 days, and was
>   amazed that trans-atlantic connection can feed email
>   at full bandwidth of his network connection (512k, or
>   whatever that was..)
> 
> > >Please bear with bounces until then.
> 
>   If you are unconnected for more than that 3d+, THEN
>   you will be removed.  For few hours that is no problem.
> 
>   Begin connected to the network for few hours every day
>   is no problem either, but then you would most likely
>   have backup MX server, and issue an ETRN request for
>   your domain there when you reconnect.
> 
> > You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
> > 5000 to 1 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
> > you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
> > thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
> > temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
> > purely apathetic on your part.
> 
>   Mike.   Don't suggest something of which you apparently
>   know nothing about.
> 
> 
> /Matti Aarnio -- co-postmaster of vger.kernel.org.
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Re: Mail admin notice

2001-05-20 Thread Matti Aarnio

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:28:24AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:
> >My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
> >fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
> >domain/dns/mail etc).

There is 3d+ some hours grace period during which vger
doesn't need to be able to feed email to destination
system, BUT AFTER THAT STARTS BOUNCING.
(To  linux-kernel-owner, NOT to the list itself!)

Alan Cox was awhile back offline for 2-3 days, and was
amazed that trans-atlantic connection can feed email
at full bandwidth of his network connection (512k, or
whatever that was..)

> >Please bear with bounces until then.

If you are unconnected for more than that 3d+, THEN
you will be removed.  For few hours that is no problem.

Begin connected to the network for few hours every day
is no problem either, but then you would most likely
have backup MX server, and issue an ETRN request for
your domain there when you reconnect.

> You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
> 5000 to 1 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
> you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
> thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
> temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
> purely apathetic on your part.

Mike.   Don't suggest something of which you apparently
know nothing about.


/Matti Aarnio -- co-postmaster of vger.kernel.org.
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Re: Mail admin notice

2001-05-20 Thread Mike A. Harris

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Shawn Starr wrote:

>Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Shawn Starr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Subject: Mail admin notice
>
>
>My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
>fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
>domain/dns/mail etc).
>
>Please bear with bounces until then.

You're saying that you consider it acceptable to bounce email to
5000 to 1 people, possibly thousands of messages?  And that
you knew it may occur in advance?  I would think the responsible
thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the mailing list
temporarily until your problem is solved.  Anything less is
purely apathetic on your part.



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Mail admin notice

2001-05-20 Thread Shawn Starr


My emails may bounce between 3AM -> 8AM Est time, @Home is doing some
fiber upgrades and i dont have a second MX server (as I am the
domain/dns/mail etc).

Please bear with bounces until then.

Shawn.

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