RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-20 Thread Bruce A. Locke


Thanks to everyone who responded.

The aacard driver patches that were in the Redhat pinstripe kernel SRPM
work fine with 2.2.17.  The machine seems pretty stable and speed is about
the same as with the binary driver.

Thanks again...

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-20 Thread Bruce A. Locke


Thanks to everyone who responded.

The aacard driver patches that were in the Redhat pinstripe kernel SRPM
work fine with 2.2.17.  The machine seems pretty stable and speed is about
the same as with the binary driver.

Thanks again...

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-18 Thread Matt_Domsch

The KNOWNBUGS file was removed with v1.0.5 as it corrected the fault when
statically linked.  You may either statically link, or compile as a module,
your choice. 
Thanks,
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Bruce A. Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:15 AM
To: Jon Mitchell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?



Though I am concerned about the KNOWNBUGS file that was in the 1.0.3 patch
but was removed by the later version patches.  It seems to indicate its a
bad idea to compile it directly in the kernel.  Is it better to compile it
as a module?

Thanks for your time...


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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-18 Thread Bruce A. Locke


As a matter of fact I already have such a kernel compiled but I need to be
there in person to make sure it doesn't blow up. :)

There were four files:

linux-2.2.16-aacraid-1.0.3.patch
linux-2.2.16-aacraid-1.0.3-paths.patch
linux-2.2.16-aacraid-1.0.4.patch
linux-2.2.16-aacraid-1.0.5.patch

The only part of the patchs that caused a reject with 2.2.17 was this:

--- linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c.aacraid   Tue Jun 13 12:52:09 2000
+++ linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c   Tue Jun 13 12:52:42 2000
@@ -307,6 +307,8 @@
 {"MATSHITA","PD-1","*", BLIST_FORCELUN | BLIST_SINGLELUN},
 {"iomega","jaz 1GB","J.86", BLIST_NOTQ | BLIST_NOLUN},
 {"TOSHIBA","CDROM","*", BLIST_ISROM},
+{"DELL", "PERCRAID", "*", BLIST_FORCELUN},
+{"HP", "NetRAID-4M", "*", BLIST_FORCELUN},
 {"MegaRAID", "LD", "*", BLIST_FORCELUN},
 /*
  * Must be at end of list...

Easily addable by hand.  

Though I am concerned about the KNOWNBUGS file that was in the 1.0.3 patch
but was removed by the later version patches.  It seems to indicate its a
bad idea to compile it directly in the kernel.  Is it better to compile it
as a module?

Thanks for your time...



On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Jon Mitchell wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 09:40:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
> > too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
> > Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
> > privately.
> 
> Or, you can get this yourself.  Evidently the source code is released.  
> 
> By going to Dell's website and downloading the kernel source rpm for
> 2.2.16-3, then installing the kernel rpm with rpm -i.  Finally go into the
> /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES directory and you will find two files with aacraid
> in the name.  These patches will apply (patch is able to make due with the
> slight line number changes) with only a couple of exceptions.  You will
> find the rejects extremely easy to fix because 3 out of 4 of them are 
> already in the kernel, only one thing actually needs to be fixed by hand.
> 
> Then make config and say yes to adaptec raid controller question.  Just
> had to do this last week, and if necessary I can make a patch and send it
> out that applies correctly to the 2.2.18pre series.
> 
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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-18 Thread Jon Mitchell

On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 09:40:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
> too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
> Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
> privately.

Or, you can get this yourself.  Evidently the source code is released.  

By going to Dell's website and downloading the kernel source rpm for
2.2.16-3, then installing the kernel rpm with rpm -i.  Finally go into the
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES directory and you will find two files with aacraid
in the name.  These patches will apply (patch is able to make due with the
slight line number changes) with only a couple of exceptions.  You will
find the rejects extremely easy to fix because 3 out of 4 of them are 
already in the kernel, only one thing actually needs to be fixed by hand.

Then make config and say yes to adaptec raid controller question.  Just
had to do this last week, and if necessary I can make a patch and send it
out that applies correctly to the 2.2.18pre series.

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-18 Thread Jon Mitchell

On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 09:40:18AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
 too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
 Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
 privately.

Or, you can get this yourself.  Evidently the source code is released.  

By going to Dell's website and downloading the kernel source rpm for
2.2.16-3, then installing the kernel rpm with rpm -i.  Finally go into the
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES directory and you will find two files with aacraid
in the name.  These patches will apply (patch is able to make due with the
slight line number changes) with only a couple of exceptions.  You will
find the rejects extremely easy to fix because 3 out of 4 of them are 
already in the kernel, only one thing actually needs to be fixed by hand.

Then make config and say yes to adaptec raid controller question.  Just
had to do this last week, and if necessary I can make a patch and send it
out that applies correctly to the 2.2.18pre series.

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-18 Thread Matt_Domsch

The KNOWNBUGS file was removed with v1.0.5 as it corrected the fault when
statically linked.  You may either statically link, or compile as a module,
your choice. 
Thanks,
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Bruce A. Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:15 AM
To: Jon Mitchell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?



Though I am concerned about the KNOWNBUGS file that was in the 1.0.3 patch
but was removed by the later version patches.  It seems to indicate its a
bad idea to compile it directly in the kernel.  Is it better to compile it
as a module?

Thanks for your time...


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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Bruce A. Locke


So does this mean that the driver currently in redhat's pinstripe beta
should be avoided on an production SMP system?  Is sticking with 2.2.14
perferable right now?  Anyone know how far along the adaptec guys are?

Thanks for your time... 


On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote:

> > AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release
> 
> The drivers for the percraid have adaptec copyrights and have been made
> available finally but were too ugly at the moment to merge (and had some 
> obvious potentially nasty bugs like using down() on a spinlock
> 
> The adaptec guys are cleaning it up
> 

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Alan Cox

> So does this mean that the driver currently in redhat's pinstripe beta
> should be avoided on an production SMP system?  Is sticking with 2.2.14
> perferable right now?  Anyone know how far along the adaptec guys are?

Im quite sure the same bug is in there binary only drivers too. I thinl it
just happens to work for all the wrong reasons

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Igmar Palsenberg

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
> too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
> Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
> privately.

In my opinion, manufacturers should provide docs, not some buggy peace of
software that needs to be completely rewritten afterwards.

This has a few advantages : 

- It saves Dell a lot of time
- It makes fixes easier to make

But I'm glad Dell provides sources :)

> Sincerely,
> Matt Domsch
> Dell Enterprise Systems Group
> Linux Development Team


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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Igmar Palsenberg

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Bruce A. Locke wrote:

> 
> Hello...
> 
> The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
> Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
> Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
> supported the machine.   Yeah... Right...  :)

Tell those morons at Dell that a binary module is NOT providing
support. Support breaks when upgrading a machine. So sue them :)




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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Alan Cox

> AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release

The drivers for the percraid have adaptec copyrights and have been made
available finally but were too ugly at the moment to merge (and had some 
obvious potentially nasty bugs like using down() on a spinlock

The adaptec guys are cleaning it up

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Matt_Domsch

The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
privately.

Sincerely,
Matt Domsch
Dell Enterprise Systems Group
Linux Development Team

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce A. Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:37 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PERCRAID 3 drivers?
> 
> 
> 
> Hello...
> 
> The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
> Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
> Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
> supported the machine.   Yeah... Right...  :)
> 
> Now it seems I'm stuck with a PERCRAID 3 card that only has 
> support in 
> the form of a binary kernel module for kernel 2.2.14 (w/ redhat's
> patches).  While the box runs fine with this kernel, I would definatly
> like to upgrade the kernel to something that doesn't have so 
> many known
> flaws ;)  The machine is already in use so switching raid 
> cards isn't much
> of an option at this time.
> 
> A check of Dell's (rather horrible) support website only turns up the
> binary module mentioned above. Does anyone know anything about these
> PERCRAID 3 cards and if there is an opensource driver? or at least a
> binary module for a newer kernel?
> 
> Thanks for your time...
> 
> --
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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Wakko Warner

> The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
> Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
> Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
> supported the machine.   Yeah... Right...  :)
> 
> Now it seems I'm stuck with a PERCRAID 3 card that only has support in 
> the form of a binary kernel module for kernel 2.2.14 (w/ redhat's
> patches).  While the box runs fine with this kernel, I would definatly
> like to upgrade the kernel to something that doesn't have so many known
> flaws ;)  The machine is already in use so switching raid cards isn't much
> of an option at this time.
> 
> A check of Dell's (rather horrible) support website only turns up the
> binary module mentioned above. Does anyone know anything about these
> PERCRAID 3 cards and if there is an opensource driver? or at least a
> binary module for a newer kernel?

AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release
the source.  The Perc controller (if you look inside the box) is made by
adaptec.  Personally I think this raid controller is crap (well, under linux
anyway.).  We have a server at work with this controller and writing to the
raid array is slow.  This one was so slow infact, that you couldn't do
anything on the machine.  (probably badly written driver)

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Wakko Warner

 The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
 Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
 Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
 supported the machine.  sarcasm Yeah... Right... /sarcasm :)
 
 Now it seems I'm stuck with a PERCRAID 3 card that only has support in 
 the form of a binary kernel module for kernel 2.2.14 (w/ redhat's
 patches).  While the box runs fine with this kernel, I would definatly
 like to upgrade the kernel to something that doesn't have so many known
 flaws ;)  The machine is already in use so switching raid cards isn't much
 of an option at this time.
 
 A check of Dell's (rather horrible) support website only turns up the
 binary module mentioned above. Does anyone know anything about these
 PERCRAID 3 cards and if there is an opensource driver? or at least a
 binary module for a newer kernel?

AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release
the source.  The Perc controller (if you look inside the box) is made by
adaptec.  Personally I think this raid controller is crap (well, under linux
anyway.).  We have a server at work with this controller and writing to the
raid array is slow.  This one was so slow infact, that you couldn't do
anything on the machine.  (probably badly written driver)

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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Matt_Domsch

The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
privately.

Sincerely,
Matt Domsch
Dell Enterprise Systems Group
Linux Development Team

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce A. Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PERCRAID 3 drivers?
 
 
 
 Hello...
 
 The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
 Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
 Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
 supported the machine.  sarcasm Yeah... Right... /sarcasm :)
 
 Now it seems I'm stuck with a PERCRAID 3 card that only has 
 support in 
 the form of a binary kernel module for kernel 2.2.14 (w/ redhat's
 patches).  While the box runs fine with this kernel, I would definatly
 like to upgrade the kernel to something that doesn't have so 
 many known
 flaws ;)  The machine is already in use so switching raid 
 cards isn't much
 of an option at this time.
 
 A check of Dell's (rather horrible) support website only turns up the
 binary module mentioned above. Does anyone know anything about these
 PERCRAID 3 cards and if there is an opensource driver? or at least a
 binary module for a newer kernel?
 
 Thanks for your time...
 
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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Alan Cox

 AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release

The drivers for the percraid have adaptec copyrights and have been made
available finally but were too ugly at the moment to merge (and had some 
obvious potentially nasty bugs like using down() on a spinlock

The adaptec guys are cleaning it up

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Igmar Palsenberg

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Bruce A. Locke wrote:

 
 Hello...
 
 The organization I do some work for purchased a rackmount server from 
 Dell with the intent of running some webconferencing software under
 Linux.  The salesman we had spoken to assured us that Linux fully
 supported the machine.  sarcasm Yeah... Right... /sarcasm :)

Tell those morons at Dell that a binary module is NOT providing
support. Support breaks when upgrading a machine. So sue them :)




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RE: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Igmar Palsenberg

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The aacraid driver was submitted to Alan Cox, but rejected because it has
 too many "NTism's" in it, which are being addressed.  Please see the Red Hat
 Linux "Pinstripe" beta kernel source RPM for the source code, or contact me
 privately.

In my opinion, manufacturers should provide docs, not some buggy peace of
software that needs to be completely rewritten afterwards.

This has a few advantages : 

- It saves Dell a lot of time
- It makes fixes easier to make

But I'm glad Dell provides sources :)

 Sincerely,
 Matt Domsch
 Dell Enterprise Systems Group
 Linux Development Team


Igmar

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Alan Cox

 So does this mean that the driver currently in redhat's pinstripe beta
 should be avoided on an production SMP system?  Is sticking with 2.2.14
 perferable right now?  Anyone know how far along the adaptec guys are?

Im quite sure the same bug is in there binary only drivers too. I thinl it
just happens to work for all the wrong reasons

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Re: PERCRAID 3 drivers?

2000-09-17 Thread Bruce A. Locke


So does this mean that the driver currently in redhat's pinstripe beta
should be avoided on an production SMP system?  Is sticking with 2.2.14
perferable right now?  Anyone know how far along the adaptec guys are?

Thanks for your time... 


On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote:

  AFAIK, Dell wrote these drivers themselfs and they are unwilling to release
 
 The drivers for the percraid have adaptec copyrights and have been made
 available finally but were too ugly at the moment to merge (and had some 
 obvious potentially nasty bugs like using down() on a spinlock
 
 The adaptec guys are cleaning it up
 

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