Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-05 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Hans-Peter Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Shane,
> 

> Difference: 181 Bytes (padding ignored)
> 
> The whole module takes about 9K, compared to dhcp in initrd, which 
> takes a few hundred K! Hmm.

And the kinit from the klibc package (A static executable that
does everything the kernel currently does for mounting root
including handling what ipconfig handles it in only 35K (uncompressed).

> That's an interesting question. Please keep me informed on any new 
> perceptions in this respect.
> 
> May the linux gods indulge on this topic one day or remove the 
> ipconfig module completely.

Well that actually is the goal.  A major problem is that there
are enough policy issues that the kernel simply cannot get it right,
for all users.

Eric
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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
On Thursday 03 February 2005 05:47, Shane Hathaway wrote:
The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in
net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the
DHCP server. Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a
network that uses jumbo frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but
I'll update it to the latest testing kernel if that would expedite
its inclusion in the kernel.

Well, I've been there before, and asked for exact the same back in 
June 2003, but had much less luck, nobody of kernel fame even 
responded:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105624464918574&w=4
I wish I had found your patch before I went to the trouble of writing my 
own!  Yours is just as good as mine.

For what is worth it, I ported my patch to current 2.6, which raised 
some comments compared to yours:

 - Is it really necessary to protect the dev_set_mtu call, since it is
   just setting up the device?
Without rtnl_shlock(), something complains about RTNL not being locked. 
I don't know much beyond that.

 - I prefer to call dev_set_mtu only, if a change mtu request is
   sent.. 
Yes, I can see that.  Either way is fine by me.
 - Are you sure, you got the endianess right? 
On the MTU parameter?  Yes, it's network byte order, big-endian.
Here's the "cost": ipconfig.o without my patch on x86:
  3 .init.data005a      0220  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, DATA
  4 .rodata.str1.1 01a2      027a  2**0
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  5 .rodata.str1.4 03ad      041c  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  6 .init.text1a45      07d0  2**4
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, READONLY, CODE
With patch:
  3 .init.data005e      0220  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, DATA
  4 .rodata.str1.1 01ab      027e  2**0
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  5 .rodata.str1.4 03e5      042c  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  6 .init.text1ab5      0820  2**4
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, READONLY, CODE
Difference: 181 Bytes (padding ignored)
The whole module takes about 9K, compared to dhcp in initrd, which 
takes a few hundred K! Hmm.
It's probably better to compare your patch with its apparent successor, 
however.  The tiny DHCP client in the klibc package already supports 
setting the MTU.

May the linux gods indulge on this topic one day or remove the 
ipconfig module completely.
A friend of mine just had the misfortune of running into the exact same 
problem, but then he had the fortune of finding your patch.  So at least 
the curse has a temporary remedy. :-)  The long-term solution is klibc, 
I hope.  klibc in initramfs could ease a lot of pain.

Shane
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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
On Friday 04 February 2005 19:22, Richard A Nelson wrote:
>
> What will this code do at the (increasingly common) misconfigured
> sites - many places (hotels, airports, etc) return a MTU of 64...
> to which the DHCP3 client faithfully attempts to set, only to
> receive:
>   SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument

Well, the ip auto configuration is mainly intended for diskless 
setups, not something, one will use in an uncontrolled environment.
I doubt, it will behave different, as well as usual distribution 
kernels will never enable this by default..

Pete

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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-04 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:

> On Thursday 03 February 2005 05:47, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in
> > net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the
> > DHCP server. Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a
> > network that uses jumbo frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but
> > I'll update it to the latest testing kernel if that would expedite
> > its inclusion in the kernel.

What will this code do at the (increasingly common) misconfigured sites
- many places (hotels, airports, etc) return a MTU of 64... to which the
DHCP3 client faithfully attempts to set, only to receive:
SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument

And is one of the easiest issues I've had during my travels - thankfully
I don't do it all that often; trying to tell the helpdesk folk that
their DHCP server is handing out bogus DNS servers, MTU, even networks
is an exercise in futility.

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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
Hi Shane,

On Thursday 03 February 2005 05:47, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in
> net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the
> DHCP server. Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a
> network that uses jumbo frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but
> I'll update it to the latest testing kernel if that would expedite
> its inclusion in the kernel.

Well, I've been there before, and asked for exact the same back in 
June 2003, but had much less luck, nobody of kernel fame even 
responded:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105624464918574&w=4

Only Ken Yap of etherboot fame told me:
> I have a feeling you will not get much sympathy for 2.[56] because
> there ipconfig in the kernel is deprecated in favour of userspace
> config from the initrd.

Well that's life. 

For what is worth it, I ported my patch to current 2.6, which raised 
some comments compared to yours:

 - Is it really necessary to protect the dev_set_mtu call, since it is
   just setting up the device?
 - I prefer to call dev_set_mtu only, if a change mtu request is
   sent.. 
 - Are you sure, you got the endianess right? 

Here's the "cost": ipconfig.o without my patch on x86:

  3 .init.data005a      0220  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, DATA
  4 .rodata.str1.1 01a2      027a  2**0
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  5 .rodata.str1.4 03ad      041c  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  6 .init.text1a45      07d0  2**4
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, READONLY, CODE

With patch:

  3 .init.data005e      0220  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, DATA
  4 .rodata.str1.1 01ab      027e  2**0
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  5 .rodata.str1.4 03e5      042c  2**2
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA
  6 .init.text1ab5      0820  2**4
  CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, RELOC, READONLY, CODE

Difference: 181 Bytes (padding ignored)

The whole module takes about 9K, compared to dhcp in initrd, which 
takes a few hundred K! Hmm.

> Incidentally, ipconfig.c doesn't appear to do enough bounds
> checking on byte 1 of DHCP/BOOTP extension fields (the length
> field).  It looks like a malicious DHCP server could mess with
> kernel memory that way.  I could try to fix the hole, but maybe
> someone more experienced with this code would like to verify
> there's a problem first.

That's an interesting question. Please keep me informed on any new 
perceptions in this respect.

May the linux gods indulge on this topic one day or remove the 
ipconfig module completely.

--- linux-2.6/net/ipv4/ipconfig.c.orig  2005-02-04 15:59:42.430518242 +0100
+++ linux-2.6/net/ipv4/ipconfig.c   2005-02-04 17:07:14.526384702 +0100
@@ -29,6 +29,10 @@
  *
  *  Multiple Nameservers in /proc/net/pnp
  *  --  Josef Siemes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aug 2002
+ *
+ *  Support for MTU selection via DHCP
+ *  -- Hans-Peter Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, June 2003
+ *  redone for 2.6 in February 2005
  */
 
 #include 
@@ -151,6 +155,9 @@
 /* Protocols supported by available interfaces */
 static int ic_proto_have_if __initdata = 0;
 
+/* MTU of device (if requested) */
+static int ic_dev_mtu __initdata = 0;
+
 #ifdef IPCONFIG_DYNAMIC
 static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(ic_recv_lock);
 static volatile int ic_got_reply __initdata = 0;/* Proto(s) that replied */
@@ -322,6 +329,12 @@
printk(KERN_ERR "IP-Config: Unable to set interface broadcast 
address (%d).\n", err);
return -1;
}
+   if (ic_dev_mtu) {
+   if ((err = dev_set_mtu(ic_dev, ic_dev_mtu)) < 0)
+   printk(KERN_ERR "IP-Config: Unable to set interface mtu 
to %d (%d).\n", 
+   ic_dev_mtu, err);
+   /* Don't error out because set mtu failure, just notice 
the operator */
+   }
return 0;
 }
 
@@ -609,6 +622,7 @@
12, /* Host name */
15, /* Domain name */
17, /* Boot path */
+   26, /* MTU */
40, /* NIS domain name */
};
 
@@ -812,6 +826,9 @@
if (!root_server_path[0])
ic_bootp_string(root_server_path, ext+1, *ext, 
sizeof(root_server_path));
break;
+   case 26:/* MTU */
+   ic_dev_mtu = ntohs(*(u16 *)(ext+1));
+   break;
case 40:/* NIS Domain name (_not_ DNS) */
ic_bootp_string(syste

Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-04 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Thursday 03 February 2005 06:47, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in 
> net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the DHCP server. 
>  
> Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a network that uses jumbo 
> frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but I'll update it to the latest 
> testing kernel if that would expedite its inclusion in the kernel.
> 
> More background: it's currently difficult to netboot on a jumbo frame network 
> because when clients try to mount the root partition, they are still 
> configured with a small MTU and therefore reject packets sent by the 
> jumbo-frame-enabled NFS server.  Linux needs to set the client MTU before 
> mounting any NFS shares.  Fortunately, the DHCP protocol already supports 
> setting the MTU; this patch just integrates that feature into the kernel.
> 
> Incidentally, ipconfig.c doesn't appear to do enough bounds checking on byte 
> 1 
> of DHCP/BOOTP extension fields (the length field).  It looks like a malicious 
> DHCP server could mess with kernel memory that way.  I could try to fix the 
> hole, but maybe someone more experienced with this code would like to verify 
> there's a problem first.

Long term solution is to use approptiately configured initramfs or initrd image
and do above mentioned stuff in userspace.
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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-03 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
By author:Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> Have you looked at using initramfs and running the DHCP client in
> user space? You'll get a lot more freedom that way.
> 

Note that the klibc distribution already contains a working dhcp
client.  The only thing missing is just "putting the backwards into
backwards compatible", i.e. handling *all* the (sometimes weird)
kernel behaviours for full compatibility.

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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-03 Thread Shane Hathaway
Herbert Xu wrote:
Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in 
net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the DHCP server.  
Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a network that uses jumbo 
frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but I'll update it to the latest 
testing kernel if that would expedite its inclusion in the kernel.

Have you looked at using initramfs and running the DHCP client in
user space? You'll get a lot more freedom that way.
Hey, that's a good idea.  I'll explore it.
Shane
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Re: [PATCH] Configure MTU via kernel DHCP

2005-02-03 Thread Herbert Xu
Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The attached patch enhances the kernel's DHCP client support (in 
> net/ipv4/ipconfig.c) to set the interface MTU if provided by the DHCP server. 
>  
> Without this patch, it's difficult to netboot on a network that uses jumbo 
> frames.  The patch is based on 2.6.10, but I'll update it to the latest 
> testing kernel if that would expedite its inclusion in the kernel.

Have you looked at using initramfs and running the DHCP client in
user space? You'll get a lot more freedom that way.

Cheers,
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