Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm,swap: skip swap readahead for instant IO (like zswap)

2020-10-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Mon, 2020-10-05 at 13:32 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 10:12 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 22:01:46 -0400 Rik van Riel 
> > wrote:

> > Any quantitative testing results?
> 
> I have test results with a real workload now.
> 
> Without this patch, enabling zswap results in about an 
> 8% increase in p99 request latency. With these patches,
> the latency penalty for enabling zswap is under 1%.

Never mind that. On larger tests the effect seems to disappear,
probably because the logic in __swapin_nr_pages() already reduces
the number of pages read ahead to 2 on workloads with lots of
random access.

That reduces the latency effects observed.

Now we might
still see some memory waste due to decompressing
pages we don't need, but I have not seen any real effects from
that yet, either.

I think it may be time to focus on a larger memory waste with
zswap: leaving the compressed copy of memory around when we
decompress the memory at swapin time.  More aggressively freeing
the compressed memory will probably buy us more than reducing
readahead.

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Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm,swap: skip swap readahead for instant IO (like zswap)

2020-10-05 Thread Rik van Riel
On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 10:12 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 22:01:46 -0400 Rik van Riel 
> wrote:
> 
> > Both with frontswap/zswap, and with some extremely fast IO devices,
> > swap IO will be done before the "asynchronous" swap_readpage() call
> > has returned.
> > 
> > In that case, doing swap readahead only wastes memory, increases
> > latency, and increases the chances of needing to evict something
> > more
> > useful from memory. In that case, just skip swap readahead.
> 
> Any quantitative testing results?

I have test results with a real workload now.

Without this patch, enabling zswap results in about an 
8% increase in p99 request latency. With these patches,
the latency penalty for enabling zswap is under 1%.

Enabling zswap
allows us to give the main workload a
little more memory, since the spikes in memory demand
caused by things like system management software no 
longer cause large latency issues.

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Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm,swap: skip swap readahead for instant IO (like zswap)

2020-09-22 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 22:01:46 -0400 Rik van Riel  wrote:

> Both with frontswap/zswap, and with some extremely fast IO devices,
> swap IO will be done before the "asynchronous" swap_readpage() call
> has returned.
> 
> In that case, doing swap readahead only wastes memory, increases
> latency, and increases the chances of needing to evict something more
> useful from memory. In that case, just skip swap readahead.

Any quantitative testing results?