Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 01:53:13PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:46:01AM +0530, Vinod Koul wrote: > > On 12-05-20, 15:35, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:16:22AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > ... > > > > My point here that we probably can avoid complications till we have real > > > hardware where it's different. As I said I don't remember a such, except > > > *maybe* Intel Medfield, which is quite outdated and not supported for > > > wider > > > audience anyway. > > > > IIRC Intel Medfield has couple of dma controller instances each one with > > different parameters *but* each instance has same channel configuration. > > That's my memory too. > > > I do not recall seeing that we have synthesis parameters per channel > > basis... But I maybe wrong, it's been a while. > > Exactly, that's why I think we better simplify things till we will have real > issue with it. I.o.w. no need to solve the problem which doesn't exist. Ok then. My hardware is also synthesized with uniform max block size parameter. I'll remove that maximum of maximum search pattern and use the block size found for the very first channel to set the maximum segment size parameter. -Sergey > > -- > With Best Regards, > Andy Shevchenko > >
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:46:01AM +0530, Vinod Koul wrote: > On 12-05-20, 15:35, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:16:22AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: ... > > My point here that we probably can avoid complications till we have real > > hardware where it's different. As I said I don't remember a such, except > > *maybe* Intel Medfield, which is quite outdated and not supported for wider > > audience anyway. > > IIRC Intel Medfield has couple of dma controller instances each one with > different parameters *but* each instance has same channel configuration. That's my memory too. > I do not recall seeing that we have synthesis parameters per channel > basis... But I maybe wrong, it's been a while. Exactly, that's why I think we better simplify things till we will have real issue with it. I.o.w. no need to solve the problem which doesn't exist. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On 12-05-20, 15:35, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:16:22AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > > > Maximum block size DW DMAC configuration corresponds to the max segment > > > > size DMA parameter in the DMA core subsystem notation. Lets set it with > > > > a > > > > value specific to the probed DW DMA controller. It shall help the DMA > > > > clients to create size-optimized SG-list items for the controller. This > > > > in > > > > turn will cause less dw_desc allocations, less LLP reinitializations, > > > > better DMA device performance. > > > > Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream > > > because > > > there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we > > > actually need this on per DMA channel basis. > > > > > > Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same > > > block > > > size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway. > > > > Hm, I don't really see why the conditional isn't needed and this won't > > work. As > > you can see in the loop above Initially I find a maximum of all channels > > maximum > > block sizes and use it then as a max segment size parameter for the whole > > device. > > If the DW DMA controller has the same max block size of all channels, then > > it > > will be found. If the channels've been synthesized with different block > > sizes, > > then the optimization will work for the one with greatest block size. The SG > > list entries of the channels with lesser max block size will be split up > > by the DW DMAC driver, which would have been done anyway without > > max_segment_size being set. Here we at least provide the optimization for > > the > > channels with greatest max block size. > > > > I do understand that it would be good to have this parameter setup on per > > generic > > DMA channel descriptor basis. But DMA core and device descriptor doesn't > > provide > > such facility, so setting at least some justified value is a good idea. > > > > > > > > OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I > > > remember > > > that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA > > > channels are different inside the same controller). > > > > > > Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized > > > DMA > > > controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP? > > > > AFAICS the DW DMAC channels can be synthesized with different max block > > size. > > The IP core supports such configuration. So we can't assume that such DMAC > > release can't be found in a real hardware just because we've never seen one. > > No matter what Vineet will have to say in response to your question. > > My point here that we probably can avoid complications till we have real > hardware where it's different. As I said I don't remember a such, except > *maybe* Intel Medfield, which is quite outdated and not supported for wider > audience anyway. IIRC Intel Medfield has couple of dma controller instances each one with different parameters *but* each instance has same channel configuration. I do not recall seeing that we have synthesis parameters per channel basis... But I maybe wrong, it's been a while. -- ~Vinod
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:35:51PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:16:22AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > > > Maximum block size DW DMAC configuration corresponds to the max segment > > > > size DMA parameter in the DMA core subsystem notation. Lets set it with > > > > a > > > > value specific to the probed DW DMA controller. It shall help the DMA > > > > clients to create size-optimized SG-list items for the controller. This > > > > in > > > > turn will cause less dw_desc allocations, less LLP reinitializations, > > > > better DMA device performance. > > > > Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream > > > because > > > there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we > > > actually need this on per DMA channel basis. > > > > > > Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same > > > block > > > size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway. > > > > Hm, I don't really see why the conditional isn't needed and this won't > > work. As > > you can see in the loop above Initially I find a maximum of all channels > > maximum > > block sizes and use it then as a max segment size parameter for the whole > > device. > > If the DW DMA controller has the same max block size of all channels, then > > it > > will be found. If the channels've been synthesized with different block > > sizes, > > then the optimization will work for the one with greatest block size. The SG > > list entries of the channels with lesser max block size will be split up > > by the DW DMAC driver, which would have been done anyway without > > max_segment_size being set. Here we at least provide the optimization for > > the > > channels with greatest max block size. > > > > I do understand that it would be good to have this parameter setup on per > > generic > > DMA channel descriptor basis. But DMA core and device descriptor doesn't > > provide > > such facility, so setting at least some justified value is a good idea. > > > > > > > > OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I > > > remember > > > that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA > > > channels are different inside the same controller). > > > > > > Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized > > > DMA > > > controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP? > > > > AFAICS the DW DMAC channels can be synthesized with different max block > > size. > > The IP core supports such configuration. So we can't assume that such DMAC > > release can't be found in a real hardware just because we've never seen one. > > No matter what Vineet will have to say in response to your question. > > My point here that we probably can avoid complications till we have real > hardware where it's different. As I said I don't remember a such, except > *maybe* Intel Medfield, which is quite outdated and not supported for wider > audience anyway. I see your point. My position is different in this matter and explained in the previous emails. Let's see what Viresh and Vinod think of it. -Sergey > > -- > With Best Regards, > Andy Shevchenko > >
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:16:22AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > > > Maximum block size DW DMAC configuration corresponds to the max segment > > > size DMA parameter in the DMA core subsystem notation. Lets set it with a > > > value specific to the probed DW DMA controller. It shall help the DMA > > > clients to create size-optimized SG-list items for the controller. This in > > > turn will cause less dw_desc allocations, less LLP reinitializations, > > > better DMA device performance. > > Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream > > because > > there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we > > actually need this on per DMA channel basis. > > > > Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same block > > size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway. > > Hm, I don't really see why the conditional isn't needed and this won't work. > As > you can see in the loop above Initially I find a maximum of all channels > maximum > block sizes and use it then as a max segment size parameter for the whole > device. > If the DW DMA controller has the same max block size of all channels, then it > will be found. If the channels've been synthesized with different block sizes, > then the optimization will work for the one with greatest block size. The SG > list entries of the channels with lesser max block size will be split up > by the DW DMAC driver, which would have been done anyway without > max_segment_size being set. Here we at least provide the optimization for the > channels with greatest max block size. > > I do understand that it would be good to have this parameter setup on per > generic > DMA channel descriptor basis. But DMA core and device descriptor doesn't > provide > such facility, so setting at least some justified value is a good idea. > > > > > OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I > > remember > > that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA > > channels are different inside the same controller). > > > > Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized DMA > > controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP? > > AFAICS the DW DMAC channels can be synthesized with different max block size. > The IP core supports such configuration. So we can't assume that such DMAC > release can't be found in a real hardware just because we've never seen one. > No matter what Vineet will have to say in response to your question. My point here that we probably can avoid complications till we have real hardware where it's different. As I said I don't remember a such, except *maybe* Intel Medfield, which is quite outdated and not supported for wider audience anyway. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:21:52PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> +Cc (Vineet, for information you probably know)
>
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > Maximum block size DW DMAC configuration corresponds to the max segment
> > size DMA parameter in the DMA core subsystem notation. Lets set it with a
> > value specific to the probed DW DMA controller. It shall help the DMA
> > clients to create size-optimized SG-list items for the controller. This in
> > turn will cause less dw_desc allocations, less LLP reinitializations,
> > better DMA device performance.
>
> Thank you for the patch.
> My comments below.
>
> ...
>
> > + /*
> > +* Find maximum block size to be set as the DMA device maximum
> > +* segment size. By doing so we'll have size optimized SG-list
> > +* items for the channels with biggest block size. This won't
> > +* be a problem for the rest of the channels, since they will
> > +* still be able to split the requests up by allocating
> > +* multiple DW DMA LLP descriptors, which they would have done
> > +* anyway.
> > +*/
> > + if (dwc->block_size > block_size)
> > + block_size = dwc->block_size;
> > }
> >
> > /* Clear all interrupts on all channels. */
> > @@ -1220,6 +1233,10 @@ int do_dma_probe(struct dw_dma_chip *chip)
> > BIT(DMA_MEM_TO_MEM);
> > dw->dma.residue_granularity = DMA_RESIDUE_GRANULARITY_BURST;
> >
> > + /* Block size corresponds to the maximum sg size */
> > + dw->dma.dev->dma_parms = >dma_parms;
> > + dma_set_max_seg_size(dw->dma.dev, block_size);
> > +
> > err = dma_async_device_register(>dma);
> > if (err)
> > goto err_dma_register;
>
> Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream because
> there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we
> actually need this on per DMA channel basis.
>
> Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same block
> size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway.
Hm, I don't really see why the conditional isn't needed and this won't work. As
you can see in the loop above Initially I find a maximum of all channels maximum
block sizes and use it then as a max segment size parameter for the whole
device.
If the DW DMA controller has the same max block size of all channels, then it
will be found. If the channels've been synthesized with different block sizes,
then the optimization will work for the one with greatest block size. The SG
list entries of the channels with lesser max block size will be split up
by the DW DMAC driver, which would have been done anyway without
max_segment_size being set. Here we at least provide the optimization for the
channels with greatest max block size.
I do understand that it would be good to have this parameter setup on per
generic
DMA channel descriptor basis. But DMA core and device descriptor doesn't provide
such facility, so setting at least some justified value is a good idea.
>
> OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I remember
> that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA
> channels are different inside the same controller).
>
> Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized DMA
> controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP?
AFAICS the DW DMAC channels can be synthesized with different max block size.
The IP core supports such configuration. So we can't assume that such DMAC
release can't be found in a real hardware just because we've never seen one.
No matter what Vineet will have to say in response to your question.
>
> ...
>
> > #include
>
> > +#include
>
> Isn't enough to supply
>
> struct device;
>
> ?
It's "struct device_dma_parameters" and I'd prefer to include the header file.
>
> > #include
> > #include
>
> Also this change needs a separate patch I suppose.
Ah, just discovered there is no need in adding the dma_parms here because since
commit 7c8978c0837d ("driver core: platform: Initialize dma_parms for platform
devices") the dma_params pointer is already initialized. The same thing is done
for the PCI device too.
-Sergey
>
> ...
>
> > - struct dma_device dma;
> > - charname[20];
> > - void __iomem*regs;
> > - struct dma_pool *desc_pool;
> > - struct tasklet_struct tasklet;
> > + struct dma_device dma;
> > + struct device_dma_parametersdma_parms;
> > + charname[20];
> > + void __iomem*regs;
> > + struct dma_pool *desc_pool;
> > + struct tasklet_struct tasklet;
> >
> > /* channels */
> > - struct dw_dma_chan *chan;
> > - u8 all_chan_mask;
> > - u8
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
On 5/8/20 4:21 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream because > there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we > actually need this on per DMA channel basis. > > Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same block > size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway. > > OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I remember > that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA > channels are different inside the same controller). > > Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized DMA > controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP? The IP drivers are done by different teams, but I can try and ask around.
Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] dmaengine: dw: Set DMA device max segment size parameter
+Cc (Vineet, for information you probably know) On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 01:53:01PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote: > Maximum block size DW DMAC configuration corresponds to the max segment > size DMA parameter in the DMA core subsystem notation. Lets set it with a > value specific to the probed DW DMA controller. It shall help the DMA > clients to create size-optimized SG-list items for the controller. This in > turn will cause less dw_desc allocations, less LLP reinitializations, > better DMA device performance. Thank you for the patch. My comments below. ... > + /* > + * Find maximum block size to be set as the DMA device maximum > + * segment size. By doing so we'll have size optimized SG-list > + * items for the channels with biggest block size. This won't > + * be a problem for the rest of the channels, since they will > + * still be able to split the requests up by allocating > + * multiple DW DMA LLP descriptors, which they would have done > + * anyway. > + */ > + if (dwc->block_size > block_size) > + block_size = dwc->block_size; > } > > /* Clear all interrupts on all channels. */ > @@ -1220,6 +1233,10 @@ int do_dma_probe(struct dw_dma_chip *chip) >BIT(DMA_MEM_TO_MEM); > dw->dma.residue_granularity = DMA_RESIDUE_GRANULARITY_BURST; > > + /* Block size corresponds to the maximum sg size */ > + dw->dma.dev->dma_parms = >dma_parms; > + dma_set_max_seg_size(dw->dma.dev, block_size); > + > err = dma_async_device_register(>dma); > if (err) > goto err_dma_register; Yeah, I have locally something like this and I didn't dare to upstream because there is an issue. We have this information per DMA controller, while we actually need this on per DMA channel basis. Above will work only for synthesized DMA with all channels having same block size. That's why above conditional is not needed anyway. OTOH, I never saw the DesignWare DMA to be synthesized differently (I remember that Intel Medfield has interesting settings, but I don't remember if DMA channels are different inside the same controller). Vineet, do you have any information that Synopsys customers synthesized DMA controllers with different channel characteristics inside one DMA IP? ... > #include > +#include Isn't enough to supply struct device; ? > #include > #include Also this change needs a separate patch I suppose. ... > - struct dma_device dma; > - charname[20]; > - void __iomem*regs; > - struct dma_pool *desc_pool; > - struct tasklet_struct tasklet; > + struct dma_device dma; > + struct device_dma_parametersdma_parms; > + charname[20]; > + void __iomem*regs; > + struct dma_pool *desc_pool; > + struct tasklet_struct tasklet; > > /* channels */ > - struct dw_dma_chan *chan; > - u8 all_chan_mask; > - u8 in_use; > + struct dw_dma_chan *chan; > + u8 all_chan_mask; > + u8 in_use; Please split formatting fixes into a separate patch. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko
