Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
> 
> What is the companion chip in DMIDA ?

  HD64465.

> IrDA and USB are working properly in linux ?

  No.  IrDA seems easy, just haven't got around to it.
USB is a major pain on the HD64465 because of the way it
deals with "host" memory.  I had a driver which initialised
the root hub at one point but haven't had time to push
it any further.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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"Greg Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>   Manufacturer = DataMyte, a division of Rockwell.
>   Machine = DataMyte Industrial Digital Assistant 4000
> (aka DMIDA, www.dmida.com)
> 

What is the companion chip in DMIDA ?

IrDA and USB are working properly in linux ?

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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>   Their co-operation came not from a spirit of enlightment but
> because this was a commercial venture to port Linux to the box
> to replace WinCE.  You can buy these with Linux now.

Including open source drivers for their touchscreen ?
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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
> 
> 
> i even face problem in xscribble too , i think it donot likes my handwriting
> ;)

  Or anyone else's.

> Are you having sources of Calligrapher ?

  No.

> If no , i know that you can write better version then Calligrapher in Linux
> :)

  This would seem a perfect opportunity for sarcasm.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Alan Cox]

   Their co-operation came not from a spirit of enlightment but
 because this was a commercial venture to port Linux to the box
 to replace WinCE.  You can buy these with Linux now.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Manufacturer = DataMyte, a division of Rockwell.
   Machine = DataMyte Industrial Digital Assistant 4000
 (aka DMIDA, www.dmida.com)
 

What is the companion chip in DMIDA ?

IrDA and USB are working properly in linux ?

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
 
 What is the companion chip in DMIDA ?

  HD64465.

 IrDA and USB are working properly in linux ?

  No.  IrDA seems easy, just haven't got around to it.
USB is a major pain on the HD64465 because of the way it
deals with host memory.  I had a driver which initialised
the root hub at one point but haven't had time to push
it any further.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
 
 
 i even face problem in xscribble too , i think it donot likes my handwriting
 ;)

  Or anyone else's.

 Are you having sources of Calligrapher ?

  No.

 If no , i know that you can write better version then Calligrapher in Linux
 :)

  This would seem a perfect opportunity for sarcasm.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > Visual Studio, or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
> > recognition system, or the feature where you can run Pocket {Internet
> > Explorer,Word} then the answer is none of them.
> 
> Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.

  Ok, I've found the description of this on handhelds.org, and
it appears to be a derivative of xscribble, which I have tried.
Unlike xscribble it does fullscreen mode, which is good, but
it's still single-character and requires the user to learn
how to write all over again.  In other words, like everything
else available on Linux (and even MS's Jot) it's *crap* compared to

http://www.paragraph.com/products/internetink/calligrapher/features.html

  I would give my eye teeth for a Linux version of Calligrapher.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
> 
> "Greg Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
> > It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
> > independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
> > raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
> > allow the calibration app to control the scaling.
> >
> >   Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.
> >
> 
> nice job , from where you get the related specs ?

  From the manufacturer.  We had the fullest possible co-operation
including all technical specs, several sample machines, source to
the WinCE drivers for the hardware, and engineers (including the lead
hardware designer, a *very* cluey gentleman) on standby to answer
questions.

  It makes an amazing difference to have all the nasty little
hardware quirks and known workarounds for them laid bare before you.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Greg Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >   Having said that, I agree that the help text entries for the SH
> > port are in general of less than stellar quality, for various
> > (mostly good) reasons.  I'm hoping ESR will give us some editorial
> > feedback which will provide a good excuse to fix them.
> 
> Since you asked...
> 
> # Choice: superhsys
> Generic
> CONFIG_SH_GENERIC
>   Select Generic if configuring for a generic SuperH system.

  The "generic" option compiles in *all* the possible hardware
support and relies on the sh_mv= kernel commandline option to choose
at runtime which routines to use.  "MV" stands for "machine vector";
each of the machines below is described by a machine vector and
the "generic" option chooses to compile them all in.

>   Select SolutionEngine if configuring for a Hitachi SH7709
>   or SH7750 evalutation board.
> 
>   Select Overdrive if configuring for a ST407750 Overdrive board.
>   More information at
>   
> 
>   Select HP620 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP620.
>   More information at
>   .
> 
>   Select HP680 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP680.
>   More information at
>   .
> 
>   Select HP690 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP690.
>   More information at .

  You won't get any information about Linux on Jornadas at HP.

> 
>   Select CqREEK if configuring for a CqREEK SH7708 or SH7750.
>   More information at
>   .
> 
>   Select DMIDA if configuring for a DataMyte 4000 Industrial
>   Digital Assistant. More information at .
> 
>   Select EC3104 if configuring for a system with an Eclipse
>   International EC3104 chip, e.g. the Harris AD2000.
> 
>   Select Dreamcast if configuring for a SEGA Dreamcast.
>   More information at
>   .

  The Dreamcast project is at 
They usually have slightly newer DC support than
linuxsh.sourceforge.net,
to which they sync regularly.

> 
>   Select BareCPU if you know what this means, and it applies
>   to your system.
> 
> Can you be any more explicit about the BareCPU option?

  "Bare CPU" aka "unknown" means an SH-based system which is not
one of the specific ones mentioned above, which means you need to
enter all sorts of stuff like CONFIG_MEMORY_START because the config
system doesn't already know what it is.  You get a machine vector
without any platform-specific code in it, so things like the RTC may
not work.

  This option is for the early stages of porting to a new machine.

  Basically the machine choices are laid out like this:

  generic = all of the known machines
  machine foo
  machine bar
  unknown = none of the known machines

> Physical memory start address
> CONFIG_MEMORY_START
>   The physical memory start address will be automatically
>   set to 0800, unless you selected one of the following
>   processor types: SolutionEngine, Overdrive, HP620, HP680, HP690,
>   in which case the start address will be set to 0c00.
> 
>   Do not change this address unless you know what you are doing.
> 
> Why might someone want to change this address?

  Only when porting to a new machine which is not already
known by the config system.  Changing it from the known correct
value on any of the known systems will only lead to disaster.

> Early printk support
> CONFIG_SH_EARLY_PRINTK
>   Say Y here to redirect kernel printks from the boot console to an
>   SCI serial console as soon as one is available.
> 
> This was my guess.  Is it correct?

  Nearly.

-  the serial console can be either SCI or SCIF (the latter has a FIFO)

-  the redirect happens *before* the serial console is available, and
   stops when the serial console is initialised

-  printks go to a BIOS conforming to the LinuxSH standard (i.e.
   the SH-IPL bootloader)

  Try:

Say Y here to redirect kernel messages to the serial port
used by the SH-IPL bootloader, starting very early in the boot
process and ending when the kernel's serial console is initialised.
This option is only useful porting the kernel to a new machine,
when the kernel may crash or hang before the serial console is
initialised.

> SuperH SCI (serial) support
> CONFIG_SH_SCI
>   Selecting this option will allow the Linux kernel to transfer
>   data over SCI (Serial Communication Interface) and/or SCIF
>   which are built into the Hitachi SuperH processor.
> 
>   If in doubt, press "y".
> 
> What data?  Is this just an on-board RS232C controller?

  Sorry, the description is unclear.  It's an on-CPU RS232 controller,
usually used as the console.  The option provides 1 to 3 (depending
on the CPU model) standard Linux tty devices, /dev/ttySC[012].

> 
> Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
> CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub
>   

Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

"Greg Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
> It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
> independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
> raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
> allow the calibration app to control the scaling.
> 
>   Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.
> 

nice job , from where you get the related specs ?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

"Greg Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Can we use "HP Jornada 600 series" inspite of "WindowsCE machine" ?
> 
>   Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean here.
>

forget about it ;)
 
> 
>   But Compaq is playing nice in a way HP (or at least the division
> that makes Jornadas) isn't.  Furthermore the ARM port is older.
> 

Thats why Compaq's iPAQ are in much demand :)

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Jaswinder Singh wrote:
> 
> "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> 
> >
> > Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
> >
> 
> But not in Linux SH , there is so Touch Panel Interface in Linux SH yet :(

  I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
allow the calibration app to control the scaling.

  Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.

  Anyway the limitation with handwriting recognition is not getting
the data out of the hardware but recognising the sample stream as
characters.  This is *difficult*.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

>   Select HP620 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP620.
>   More information at
>   .
> 
>   Select HP680 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP680.
>   More information at
>   .
> 
>   Select HP690 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP690.
>   More information at .
> 

Have you asked from HP , are they ready to support Linux ?

Thank you ,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > [...] or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
> > recognition system,[...]
> 
> Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.

  I haven't tried that one.  Does it do cursive writing,
with dictionary assistance, on the X root window?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Dear Greg,

>
>   Modems are tricky, because they're frequently WinModems which
> have a whole lot of well-known issues.  Other features depend on
> the speed at which they can be reverse engineered, as most
> WinCE manufacturers don't co-operate.  I'd be surprised if any
> WindowsCE machine's hardware was fully supported by LinuxSH yet,
> but I don't have a full list anywhere (sorry).  I'd guess the HP
> Jornada 600 series are probably best supported.
>

yes , this is what i am looking for :)

Can we use "HP Jornada 600 series" inspite of "WindowsCE machine" ?

BTW, in Jornada 600 series only Keyboard and LCD is working and some CPU
related stuff  which we can found in Hitachi Manuals , thats it .

But linux-arm is supporting full iPAQ hardware .

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

"Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :


> 
> Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
> 

But not in Linux SH , there is so Touch Panel Interface in Linux SH yet :(

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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> Visual Studio, or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
> recognition system, or the feature where you can run Pocket {Internet
> Explorer,Word} then the answer is none of them.

Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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>
>   The class of machines for which this option does not apply is
> "machines with an existing operating system in mask rom and no
> flash", which AFAICT is equivalent to "WindowsCE machines
> ".  The

AFAIK WindowsCE machines are also broad term.

BTW, how many WindowsCE machines are fully (means all the features as
provided by Windows CE) supported by LinuxSH and how many machines are
partially(only few features) supported by LinuxSH ?

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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>
>   The class of machines for which this option does not apply is
> "machines with an existing operating system in mask rom and no
> flash", which AFAICT is equivalent to "WindowsCE machines
> ".  The

AFAIK WindowsCE machines are also broad term.

BTW, how many WindowsCE machines are fully (means all the features as
provided by Windows CE) supported by LinuxSH and how many machines are
partially(only few features) supported by LinuxSH ?

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

   The class of machines for which this option does not apply is
 machines with an existing operating system in mask rom and no
 flash, which AFAICT is equivalent to WindowsCE machines
 .  The

AFAIK WindowsCE machines are also broad term.

BTW, how many WindowsCE machines are fully (means all the features as
provided by Windows CE) supported by LinuxSH and how many machines are
partially(only few features) supported by LinuxSH ?

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Can we use HP Jornada 600 series inspite of WindowsCE machine ?
 
   Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean here.


forget about it ;)
 
 
   But Compaq is playing nice in a way HP (or at least the division
 that makes Jornadas) isn't.  Furthermore the ARM port is older.
 

Thats why Compaq's iPAQ are in much demand :)

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

Dear Greg,


   Modems are tricky, because they're frequently WinModems which
 have a whole lot of well-known issues.  Other features depend on
 the speed at which they can be reverse engineered, as most
 WinCE manufacturers don't co-operate.  I'd be surprised if any
 WindowsCE machine's hardware was fully supported by LinuxSH yet,
 but I don't have a full list anywhere (sorry).  I'd guess the HP
 Jornada 600 series are probably best supported.


yes , this is what i am looking for :)

Can we use HP Jornada 600 series inspite of WindowsCE machine ?

BTW, in Jornada 600 series only Keyboard and LCD is working and some CPU
related stuff  which we can found in Hitachi Manuals , thats it .

But linux-arm is supporting full iPAQ hardware .

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Having said that, I agree that the help text entries for the SH
  port are in general of less than stellar quality, for various
  (mostly good) reasons.  I'm hoping ESR will give us some editorial
  feedback which will provide a good excuse to fix them.
 
 Since you asked...
 
 # Choice: superhsys
 Generic
 CONFIG_SH_GENERIC
   Select Generic if configuring for a generic SuperH system.

  The generic option compiles in *all* the possible hardware
support and relies on the sh_mv= kernel commandline option to choose
at runtime which routines to use.  MV stands for machine vector;
each of the machines below is described by a machine vector and
the generic option chooses to compile them all in.

   Select SolutionEngine if configuring for a Hitachi SH7709
   or SH7750 evalutation board.
 
   Select Overdrive if configuring for a ST407750 Overdrive board.
   More information at
   http://linuxsh.sourceforge.net/docs/7750overdrive.php3
 
   Select HP620 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP620.
   More information at
   http://www.hp.com/jornada.
 
   Select HP680 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP680.
   More information at
   http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/680.
 
   Select HP690 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP690.
   More information at http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/680.

  You won't get any information about Linux on Jornadas at HP.

 
   Select CqREEK if configuring for a CqREEK SH7708 or SH7750.
   More information at
   http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/hardware.html#SuperH.
 
   Select DMIDA if configuring for a DataMyte 4000 Industrial
   Digital Assistant. More information at http://www.dmida.com.
 
   Select EC3104 if configuring for a system with an Eclipse
   International EC3104 chip, e.g. the Harris AD2000.
 
   Select Dreamcast if configuring for a SEGA Dreamcast.
   More information at
   http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/dreamcast.

  The Dreamcast project is at http://linuxdc.sourceforge.net/
They usually have slightly newer DC support than
linuxsh.sourceforge.net,
to which they sync regularly.

 
   Select BareCPU if you know what this means, and it applies
   to your system.
 
 Can you be any more explicit about the BareCPU option?

  Bare CPU aka unknown means an SH-based system which is not
one of the specific ones mentioned above, which means you need to
enter all sorts of stuff like CONFIG_MEMORY_START because the config
system doesn't already know what it is.  You get a machine vector
without any platform-specific code in it, so things like the RTC may
not work.

  This option is for the early stages of porting to a new machine.

  Basically the machine choices are laid out like this:

  generic = all of the known machines
  machine foo
  machine bar
  unknown = none of the known machines

 Physical memory start address
 CONFIG_MEMORY_START
   The physical memory start address will be automatically
   set to 0800, unless you selected one of the following
   processor types: SolutionEngine, Overdrive, HP620, HP680, HP690,
   in which case the start address will be set to 0c00.
 
   Do not change this address unless you know what you are doing.
 
 Why might someone want to change this address?

  Only when porting to a new machine which is not already
known by the config system.  Changing it from the known correct
value on any of the known systems will only lead to disaster.

 Early printk support
 CONFIG_SH_EARLY_PRINTK
   Say Y here to redirect kernel printks from the boot console to an
   SCI serial console as soon as one is available.
 
 This was my guess.  Is it correct?

  Nearly.

-  the serial console can be either SCI or SCIF (the latter has a FIFO)

-  the redirect happens *before* the serial console is available, and
   stops when the serial console is initialised

-  printks go to a BIOS conforming to the LinuxSH standard (i.e.
   the SH-IPL bootloader)

  Try:

Say Y here to redirect kernel messages to the serial port
used by the SH-IPL bootloader, starting very early in the boot
process and ending when the kernel's serial console is initialised.
This option is only useful porting the kernel to a new machine,
when the kernel may crash or hang before the serial console is
initialised.

 SuperH SCI (serial) support
 CONFIG_SH_SCI
   Selecting this option will allow the Linux kernel to transfer
   data over SCI (Serial Communication Interface) and/or SCIF
   which are built into the Hitachi SuperH processor.
 
   If in doubt, press y.
 
 What data?  Is this just an on-board RS232C controller?

  Sorry, the description is unclear.  It's an on-CPU RS232 controller,
usually used as the console.  The option provides 1 to 3 (depending
on the CPU model) standard Linux tty devices, /dev/ttySC[012].

 
 Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
 CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub
   package from www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS)
   in FLASH or EPROM.  The kernel will use 

Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Jaswinder Singh wrote:
 
 Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
 
 
  Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
 
 
 But not in Linux SH , there is so Touch Panel Interface in Linux SH yet :(

  I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
allow the calibration app to control the scaling.

  Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.

  Anyway the limitation with handwriting recognition is not getting
the data out of the hardware but recognising the sample stream as
characters.  This is *difficult*.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Jaswinder Singh wrote:
 
 Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
  It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
  independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
  raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
  allow the calibration app to control the scaling.
 
Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.
 
 
 nice job , from where you get the related specs ?

  From the manufacturer.  We had the fullest possible co-operation
including all technical specs, several sample machines, source to
the WinCE drivers for the hardware, and engineers (including the lead
hardware designer, a *very* cluey gentleman) on standby to answer
questions.

  It makes an amazing difference to have all the nasty little
hardware quirks and known workarounds for them laid bare before you.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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 Visual Studio, or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
 recognition system, or the feature where you can run Pocket {Internet
 Explorer,Word} then the answer is none of them.

Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I have some code which could become the basis for such a thing.
 It's a touch panel driver for the DMIDA but it also has a device-
 independent layer which does supersampling, scaling, provides
 raw and cooked Linux Input interfaces, and a /proc interface to
 allow the calibration app to control the scaling.
 
   Unfortunately I can't release it yet for (ahem) legal reasons.
 

nice job , from where you get the related specs ?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :


 
 Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.
 

But not in Linux SH , there is so Touch Panel Interface in Linux SH yet :(

Thank you,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

   The class of machines for which this option does not apply is
 machines with an existing operating system in mask rom and no
 flash, which AFAICT is equivalent to WindowsCE machines
 .  The

AFAIK WindowsCE machines are also broad term.

BTW, how many WindowsCE machines are fully (means all the features as
provided by Windows CE) supported by LinuxSH and how many machines are
partially(only few features) supported by LinuxSH ?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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   Select HP620 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP620.
   More information at
   http://www.hp.com/jornada.
 
   Select HP680 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP680.
   More information at
   http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/680.
 
   Select HP690 if configuring for a HP Jornada HP690.
   More information at http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/680.
 

Have you asked from HP , are they ready to support Linux ?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Alan Cox wrote:
 
  [...] or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
  recognition system,[...]
 
 Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.

  I haven't tried that one.  Does it do cursive writing,
with dictionary assistance, on the X root window?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Alan Cox wrote:
 
  Visual Studio, or the feature where you can have a decent handwriting
  recognition system, or the feature where you can run Pocket {Internet
  Explorer,Word} then the answer is none of them.
 
 Handwriting recognition with fscrib works very well indeed.

  Ok, I've found the description of this on handhelds.org, and
it appears to be a derivative of xscribble, which I have tried.
Unlike xscribble it does fullscreen mode, which is good, but
it's still single-character and requires the user to learn
how to write all over again.  In other words, like everything
else available on Linux (and even MS's Jot) it's *crap* compared to

http://www.paragraph.com/products/internetink/calligrapher/features.html

  I would give my eye teeth for a Linux version of Calligrapher.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Jaswinder Singh]

Dear Greg,

>
> Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
> CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
>   Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub package from
>   www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH
>   or EPROM.  The kernel will use standard BIOS calls during boot
>   for various housekeeping tasks.  Note this does not work with
>   WindowsCE machines.  If unsure, say N.
>

"WindowsCE" word looks very abrupt in Linux's Configure.help, Please use
some better word inspite of it like HandHeld Devices or PDAs.

Thanks ,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> 
> CONFIG_SH_SCI
> CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
> CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL_WITH_GDB_STUB

  From the LinuxSH CVS (I can write new ones if these are inadequate):

SuperH SCI (serial) support
CONFIG_SH_SCI
  Selecting this option will allow the Linux kernel to transfer
  data over SCI (Serial Communication Interface) and/or SCIF
  which are built into the Hitachi SuperH processor.

  If in doubt, press "y".

Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
  Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub package from
  www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH
  or EPROM.  The kernel will use standard BIOS calls during boot
  for various housekeeping tasks.  Note this does not work with
  WindowsCE machines.  If unsure, say N.

GDB Stub kernel debug
CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL_WITH_GDB_STUB
  If you say Y here, it will be possible to remotely debug the SuperH
  kernel using gdb, if you have the gdb-sh-stub package from
  www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH or
  EPROM.  This enlarges your kernel image disk size by several megabytes
  but allows you to load, run and debug the kernel image remotely using
  gdb.  This is only useful for kernel hackers.  If unsure, say N.


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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

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Dear Greg,


 Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
 CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
   Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub package from
   www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH
   or EPROM.  The kernel will use standard BIOS calls during boot
   for various housekeeping tasks.  Note this does not work with
   WindowsCE machines.  If unsure, say N.


WindowsCE word looks very abrupt in Linux's Configure.help, Please use
some better word inspite of it like HandHeld Devices or PDAs.

Thanks ,

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Configure.help entries wanted

[Greg Banks]

Eric S. Raymond wrote:
 
 CONFIG_SH_SCI
 CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
 CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL_WITH_GDB_STUB

  From the LinuxSH CVS (I can write new ones if these are inadequate):

SuperH SCI (serial) support
CONFIG_SH_SCI
  Selecting this option will allow the Linux kernel to transfer
  data over SCI (Serial Communication Interface) and/or SCIF
  which are built into the Hitachi SuperH processor.

  If in doubt, press y.

Use LinuxSH standard BIOS
CONFIG_SH_STANDARD_BIOS
  Say Y here if your target has the gdb-sh-stub package from
  www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH
  or EPROM.  The kernel will use standard BIOS calls during boot
  for various housekeeping tasks.  Note this does not work with
  WindowsCE machines.  If unsure, say N.

GDB Stub kernel debug
CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL_WITH_GDB_STUB
  If you say Y here, it will be possible to remotely debug the SuperH
  kernel using gdb, if you have the gdb-sh-stub package from
  www.m17n.org (or any conforming standard LinuxSH BIOS) in FLASH or
  EPROM.  This enlarges your kernel image disk size by several megabytes
  but allows you to load, run and debug the kernel image remotely using
  gdb.  This is only useful for kernel hackers.  If unsure, say N.


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