Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On 28-Jun-2001 Tim Moore wrote: >> (I wrote) >> Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot >> when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. >> >> Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would "solve" the >> problem. Another solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have >> the URL at hand) is to add two or three additionnal capacitors on >> the back of the board, to solve the electric instabilities that >> cause the reboots. > > This is incorrect information. Abit BP6 early revs suffered under load > from a 100uF cap (EC10, between the CPU sockets) that should have been > 1500uF. This was compounded by a weak or otherwise inadequate power > supply. > > Having run literally 7 P3F-Fs and 6 of their P2B-F predecessors, not a > single one had any problems. They were the premiere overclocking boards > of their day. Don't get me wrong, I like ASUS boards, and BX chipset boards were a very safe choice at the time, that's why this problem was very disturbing when I experienced it on 2 or 3 boards (out of more than 100, but I guess many never ran Photoshop since then). I digged my archives. Adobe Knowledgebase article about the problem (http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/2256a.htm) mentions spontaneous reboots with Dell Optiplex GX1, ASUS P2B-F and ASUS P3B-F. I could not find anything about the problem on ASUS websites at the time. (unofficial) P2B-(L)S fixing is documented here: http://www.turbotech.ch/articles2000/000815-p2bls_rework-01.html (unofficial) CUBX fixing (some of those are also affected): http://members.ams.chello.nl/mgherard/html/photoshop.html Best regards, Pierre. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of >the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). > > I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, >Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it >may be a kt7a thing. > > Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware >thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. > > is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or >6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? > > Joe Similar board (KA7) had non-heat related lockups with 133MHz FSB (1756 BogoM). 100MHz FSB + 4 way interleave has been fast and stable (1690 BogoM). /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.00 seconds =128.00 MB/sec Abit KA7 (VT82C686a, rev 22), Athlon 850, 2x256MB PC133@CL2, 2 ide, CR-RW, Colorado Travan, linux 2.2.20p6+ide.2.2.19.04092001, SPI 300W power, PCI: Firewire, Netgear FA310TX, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz audio, AGP: 32MB TNT2. CONFIG_M686=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_1GB=y CONFIG_MTRR=y -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
> Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using > PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. > > Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would "solve" the problem. Another > solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two > or three additionnal capacitors on the back of the board, to solve the electric > instabilities that cause the reboots. This is incorrect information. Abit BP6 early revs suffered under load from a 100uF cap (EC10, between the CPU sockets) that should have been 1500uF. This was compounded by a weak or otherwise inadequate power supply. Having run literally 7 P3F-Fs and 6 of their P2B-F predecessors, not a single one had any problems. They were the premiere overclocking boards of their day. rgds, Tim. -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Le 26-Jun-2001, Alex Deucher écrivait : > What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use > athlon optimizations. Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would "solve" the problem. Another solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two or three additionnal capacitors on the back of the board, to solve the electric instabilities that cause the reboots. So yes, I can believe that that sort of "corner case" problems exist. Best regards, Pierre. -- We are the dot in 0.2 Kb/s - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would solve the problem. Another solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two or three additionnal capacitors on the back of the board, to solve the electric instabilities that cause the reboots. This is incorrect information. Abit BP6 early revs suffered under load from a 100uF cap (EC10, between the CPU sockets) that should have been 1500uF. This was compounded by a weak or otherwise inadequate power supply. Having run literally 7 P3F-Fs and 6 of their P2B-F predecessors, not a single one had any problems. They were the premiere overclocking boards of their day. rgds, Tim. -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it may be a kt7a thing. Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or 6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? Joe Similar board (KA7) had non-heat related lockups with 133MHz FSB (1756 BogoM). 100MHz FSB + 4 way interleave has been fast and stable (1690 BogoM). /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.00 seconds =128.00 MB/sec Abit KA7 (VT82C686a, rev 22), Athlon 850, 2x256MB PC133@CL2, 2 ide, CR-RW, Colorado Travan, linux 2.2.20p6+ide.2.2.19.04092001, SPI 300W power, PCI: Firewire, Netgear FA310TX, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz audio, AGP: 32MB TNT2. CONFIG_M686=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_1GB=y CONFIG_MTRR=y -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Le 26-Jun-2001, Alex Deucher écrivait : What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would solve the problem. Another solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two or three additionnal capacitors on the back of the board, to solve the electric instabilities that cause the reboots. So yes, I can believe that that sort of corner case problems exist. Best regards, Pierre. -- We are the dot in 0.2 Kb/s - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of >the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I would have bet that power supply was erogating elettricity with a discontinous intensity. I saw that RAM stability is the first think to be affected (together with L2 cache stability) in those cases. > > I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, >Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it >may be a kt7a thing. > > Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware >thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. > > is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or >6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? yes, 1.300 Mhz 1 agp 4 pci 1 isa (I love my sound blaster 16 on ISA, could not live without) 3 disks 1 floppy 1 zip 1 dvd 5 fans 350 watt power supply. Luigi > Joe > > Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't > > actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is > > some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon > > optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' > > Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see > register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad > systems, to see if this is the case. > > Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets > are not available. > > regards, > > Dave. > > -- > | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej > | SuSE Labs > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it may be a kt7a thing. Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or 6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? Joe Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't > actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is > some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon > optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad systems, to see if this is the case. Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets are not available. regards, Dave. -- | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it may be a kt7a thing. Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or 6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? Joe Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad systems, to see if this is the case. Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets are not available. regards, Dave. -- | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I would have bet that power supply was erogating elettricity with a discontinous intensity. I saw that RAM stability is the first think to be affected (together with L2 cache stability) in those cases. I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card) but my last tyan was fine with that load it may be a kt7a thing. Several people said that random (keyword here) oopses are more often a hardware thing. I wonder if the kt7a is going to be able to perform fully loaded.. is anyone running one fully loaded? 4 ide drives, 2 floppy, (5 pci and 1 isa) or 6pci, agp, 512MEG+ RAM? yes, 1.300 Mhz 1 agp 4 pci 1 isa (I love my sound blaster 16 on ISA, could not live without) 3 disks 1 floppy 1 zip 1 dvd 5 fans 350 watt power supply. Luigi Joe Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad systems, to see if this is the case. Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets are not available. regards, Dave. -- | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't > actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is > some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon > optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad systems, to see if this is the case. Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets are not available. regards, Dave. -- | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
> What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use > athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they That fits the pattern beautifully. > provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I > doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be > better with an athlon, k6 or i686 optimization? I've heard i686 is > faster, but I've never really looked into it too much myself. The optimisations are worth several %age points on some benchmarks - the prefetching memory copier it uses basically hits the full bus bandwidth on memory copies which rep movs will not do. My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Equally we don't see the problem on AMD chipset boards and we don't know if that indicates a bug in the kernel not tripped on such boards or a chipset problem (even BIOS setuo maybe) on the VIA. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be better with an athlon, k6 or i686 optimization? I've heard i686 is faster, but I've never really looked into it too much myself. Thanks, Alex Alan Cox wrote: > > > I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat > > 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I > > assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's > > athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a > > while back on the LKML. > > Most IWILL K266 people report this. Those who swapped them for other boards > mostly report the problem then going away. Yes it could be a bug we trigger > that by chance the IWILL boards show up more than others but I'm sceptical > > Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
> I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat > 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I > assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's > athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a > while back on the LKML. Most IWILL K266 people report this. Those who swapped them for other boards mostly report the problem then going away. Yes it could be a bug we trigger that by chance the IWILL boards show up more than others but I'm sceptical Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the LKML. athlon 850 (200 FSB) 512 MB RAM IWILL KK266 Alex I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Joe please cc me as I am not on this list. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
> With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i >like, > i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) That bit is fascinating. Do you do different things as non root ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Hi, > I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). > Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should > be at less 300 Watt). > If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy > is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I have a 400 Watt power supply. With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i like, i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) Thomas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I usually do a little overvolt of the vcore to 3.4, and this makes things more stable. For what i know, the Athlon optimizzation does stress the memory I/O at best, and does use the Athlon FSB with all its power. Using the pentiumII/III stuff, you loose this memory performance boost. If a little overvolt of the VCORE does not solve the things, (someone also does a little overvolt of the CPU core to 1.78) then check if your power supply if working well, and the signal strenght setting inside of your bios (should be 2). This is just my experience with Athlon processors. Luigi On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Thomas Foerster wrote: > Hi, > > > as i've said before - i have the same problem too > > Me too > > > the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - > > heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C > > > after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked > > fine > > I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz Athlon, 256 MB RAM (Infineon, Ram is OK). > Using 2.4.2 AND 2.4.4 didn't work. > Whenever i started KDE2, the crashes startet, even oopses in ext2-code appeared. > > The strange thing is : If i startet KDE2 as root, the crashes didn't happen! > > I don't know why, my distribution is RedHat 7.1 > > Now i have a Epox 8kta3+ with an 1,333 MHz Athlon, FSB266, 256 MB RAM (Infineon) > and the crashes still appear. > > Changing the Kernel from Athlon to Pentium-II/III makes the system stable again. > > Thomas > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Hi, > as i've said before - i have the same problem too Me too > the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - > heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C > after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked > fine I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz Athlon, 256 MB RAM (Infineon, Ram is OK). Using 2.4.2 AND 2.4.4 didn't work. Whenever i started KDE2, the crashes startet, even oopses in ext2-code appeared. The strange thing is : If i startet KDE2 as root, the crashes didn't happen! I don't know why, my distribution is RedHat 7.1 Now i have a Epox 8kta3+ with an 1,333 MHz Athlon, FSB266, 256 MB RAM (Infineon) and the crashes still appear. Changing the Kernel from Athlon to Pentium-II/III makes the system stable again. Thomas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
as i've said before - i have the same problem too the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked fine 2.4.6pre5 works as PentiumII but not as Athlon 2.4.5ac16 doesn't work at all - random oopses .. ThomasK. - Original Message - From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops > > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. > > > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? > > Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may > even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its > the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty > component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff > > memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Hi, as i've said before - i have the same problem too Me too the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked fine I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz Athlon, 256 MB RAM (Infineon, Ram is OK). Using 2.4.2 AND 2.4.4 didn't work. Whenever i started KDE2, the crashes startet, even oopses in ext2-code appeared. The strange thing is : If i startet KDE2 as root, the crashes didn't happen! I don't know why, my distribution is RedHat 7.1 Now i have a Epox 8kta3+ with an 1,333 MHz Athlon, FSB266, 256 MB RAM (Infineon) and the crashes still appear. Changing the Kernel from Athlon to Pentium-II/III makes the system stable again. Thomas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I usually do a little overvolt of the vcore to 3.4, and this makes things more stable. For what i know, the Athlon optimizzation does stress the memory I/O at best, and does use the Athlon FSB with all its power. Using the pentiumII/III stuff, you loose this memory performance boost. If a little overvolt of the VCORE does not solve the things, (someone also does a little overvolt of the CPU core to 1.78) then check if your power supply if working well, and the signal strenght setting inside of your bios (should be 2). This is just my experience with Athlon processors. Luigi On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Thomas Foerster wrote: Hi, as i've said before - i have the same problem too Me too the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked fine I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz Athlon, 256 MB RAM (Infineon, Ram is OK). Using 2.4.2 AND 2.4.4 didn't work. Whenever i started KDE2, the crashes startet, even oopses in ext2-code appeared. The strange thing is : If i startet KDE2 as root, the crashes didn't happen! I don't know why, my distribution is RedHat 7.1 Now i have a Epox 8kta3+ with an 1,333 MHz Athlon, FSB266, 256 MB RAM (Infineon) and the crashes still appear. Changing the Kernel from Athlon to Pentium-II/III makes the system stable again. Thomas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Hi, I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I have a 400 Watt power supply. With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i like, i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) Thomas - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i like, i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) That bit is fascinating. Do you do different things as non root ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the LKML. athlon 850 (200 FSB) 512 MB RAM IWILL KK266 Alex I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Joe please cc me as I am not on this list. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
as i've said before - i have the same problem too the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked fine 2.4.6pre5 works as PentiumII but not as Athlon 2.4.5ac16 doesn't work at all - random oopses .. ThomasK. - Original Message - From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they That fits the pattern beautifully. provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be better with an athlon, k6 or i686 optimization? I've heard i686 is faster, but I've never really looked into it too much myself. The optimisations are worth several %age points on some benchmarks - the prefetching memory copier it uses basically hits the full bus bandwidth on memory copies which rep movs will not do. My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Equally we don't see the problem on AMD chipset boards and we don't know if that indicates a bug in the kernel not tripped on such boards or a chipset problem (even BIOS setuo maybe) on the VIA. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be better with an athlon, k6 or i686 optimization? I've heard i686 is faster, but I've never really looked into it too much myself. Thanks, Alex Alan Cox wrote: I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the LKML. Most IWILL K266 people report this. Those who swapped them for other boards mostly report the problem then going away. Yes it could be a bug we trigger that by chance the IWILL boards show up more than others but I'm sceptical Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set the BIOS options to 'conservative' not 'optimised' Interesting, and plausable theory. It would be more interesting to see register dumps of the memory timing registers on both good and bad systems, to see if this is the case. Unfortunatly afair the register level specs of all the affected chipsets are not available. regards, Dave. -- | Dave Jones.http://www.suse.de/~davej | SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the LKML. Most IWILL K266 people report this. Those who swapped them for other boards mostly report the problem then going away. Yes it could be a bug we trigger that by chance the IWILL boards show up more than others but I'm sceptical Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may > even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its > the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty > component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff Ive found a number of problems can be traced to power supply problems, the board providing a bit of under voltage. Manually adjusting CPU voltage a notch or two up has fixed many a board for me. Also manually adjusting SDRAM drive strength can help, BIOS sometimes gets this wrong. -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Have you considered to change your dimm at all? If they are bugged they should be under warranty. Luigi On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks, > I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4" fan >in the case. (real nice case). > > I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel >compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m >and things worked better and the install went all the way through. I think I need to >slow my drams down a bit or add some delay in the bios settings. > >The oops says something like 'kernel null pointer at address 0x00'. How do I >'catch' the output of an oops when the filesystem goes and I get ext2fs errors and am >forced to reboot and manually run e2fsck? > > Lastly with the mem=64M or mem=128M when I do a make dep, I get an error message >that says Error 'missing seperator'. What does that mean? It stops in the >drivers/net dir when I get this message? > > Thanks > Joe > > Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but >keep getting these oopses.. > > > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? > > Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may > even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its > the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty > component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff > > memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4" fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m and things worked better and the install went all the way through. I think I need to slow my drams down a bit or add some delay in the bios settings. The oops says something like 'kernel null pointer at address 0x00'. How do I 'catch' the output of an oops when the filesystem goes and I get ext2fs errors and am forced to reboot and manually run e2fsck? Lastly with the mem=64M or mem=128M when I do a make dep, I get an error message that says Error 'missing seperator'. What does that mean? It stops in the drivers/net dir when I get this message? Thanks Joe Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but >keep getting these oopses.. > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Works well for me, Athlon 1300 (200Mhz FSB). Did you check your ram? Luigi On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but >keep getting these oopses.. > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? > > Joe please cc me as I am not on this list. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Athlon TB CPUs >= 1000mhz potentially not stable at all because of great heat-production, without correct hardware maintence - try to check whether Your cpu overheating or cpu cooler make mighty vibration. Best regards, Alexander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops > > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. > > > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? > > Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may > even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its > the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty > component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff > > memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
> I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but >keep getting these oopses.. > > I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 > > Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Athlon TB CPUs = 1000mhz potentially not stable at all because of great heat-production, without correct hardware maintence - try to check whether Your cpu overheating or cpu cooler make mighty vibration. Best regards, Alexander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Works well for me, Athlon 1300 (200Mhz FSB). Did you check your ram? Luigi On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Joe please cc me as I am not on this list. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Have you considered to change your dimm at all? If they are bugged they should be under warranty. Luigi On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4 fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m and things worked better and the install went all the way through. I think I need to slow my drams down a bit or add some delay in the bios settings. The oops says something like 'kernel null pointer at address 0x00'. How do I 'catch' the output of an oops when the filesystem goes and I get ext2fs errors and am forced to reboot and manually run e2fsck? Lastly with the mem=64M or mem=128M when I do a make dep, I get an error message that says Error 'missing seperator'. What does that mean? It stops in the drivers/net dir when I get this message? Thanks Joe Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff Ive found a number of problems can be traced to power supply problems, the board providing a bit of under voltage. Manually adjusting CPU voltage a notch or two up has fixed many a board for me. Also manually adjusting SDRAM drive strength can help, BIOS sometimes gets this wrong. -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: AMD thunderbird oops
I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops
Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4 fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m and things worked better and the install went all the way through. I think I need to slow my drams down a bit or add some delay in the bios settings. The oops says something like 'kernel null pointer at address 0x00'. How do I 'catch' the output of an oops when the filesystem goes and I get ext2fs errors and am forced to reboot and manually run e2fsck? Lastly with the mem=64M or mem=128M when I do a make dep, I get an error message that says Error 'missing seperator'. What does that mean? It stops in the drivers/net dir when I get this message? Thanks Joe Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying to install RH 7.1 Anyone know is this a supported processor / MB and has anyone had these problems? Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its oopsing randomly even during installs and stuff memtest86, and heatsink compound may be your best friends - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
