Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Matthias Andree

On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

> >I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
> >the functionality).
> 
> Don't bother.  It will change in 2.5 anyway, I can live with the odd
> query until then.  If you really want to get only the version number
> then this will work for modutils 2.x for x >= 3.
> 
>   (/sbin/depmod -V -n | head -1) 2>/dev/null

I was just thinking to write -V "output version in addition to normal
operation" in --help, nothing bigger than like 5 minutes.

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Keith Owens

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:40:05 +0100, 
Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
>
>> Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
>> >its version when --version is used, should it?
>> 
>> Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
>> behaviour;
>
>Okay, backwards compatibility weighs a lot.
>
>May I kindly ask you to give a note that -V does NOT terminate the
>program, but also comprises regular operation in --help and the man
>pages? 
>
>I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
>the functionality).

Don't bother.  It will change in 2.5 anyway, I can live with the odd
query until then.  If you really want to get only the version number
then this will work for modutils 2.x for x >= 3.

  (/sbin/depmod -V -n | head -1) 2>/dev/null

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Matthias Andree

On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

> Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
> >its version when --version is used, should it?
> 
> Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
> behaviour; somewhere, somebody is bound to rely on depmod -V updating
> modules.dep at the same time.  modutils 2.5 will clean up a lot of
> backwards compatibility crud, including this one.  But you will not see
> modutils 2.5 until Linus rolls kernel 2.5 and we start the next
> development cycle.

Okay, backwards compatibility weighs a lot.

May I kindly ask you to give a note that -V does NOT terminate the
program, but also comprises regular operation in --help and the man
pages? 

I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
the functionality).

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Matthias Andree

On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
 its version when --version is used, should it?
 
 Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
 behaviour; somewhere, somebody is bound to rely on depmod -V updating
 modules.dep at the same time.  modutils 2.5 will clean up a lot of
 backwards compatibility crud, including this one.  But you will not see
 modutils 2.5 until Linus rolls kernel 2.5 and we start the next
 development cycle.

Okay, backwards compatibility weighs a lot.

May I kindly ask you to give a note that -V does NOT terminate the
program, but also comprises regular operation in --help and the man
pages? 

I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
the functionality).

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Keith Owens

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:40:05 +0100, 
Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
 its version when --version is used, should it?
 
 Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
 behaviour;

Okay, backwards compatibility weighs a lot.

May I kindly ask you to give a note that -V does NOT terminate the
program, but also comprises regular operation in --help and the man
pages? 

I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
the functionality).

Don't bother.  It will change in 2.5 anyway, I can live with the odd
query until then.  If you really want to get only the version number
then this will work for modutils 2.x for x = 3.

  (/sbin/depmod -V -n | head -1) 2/dev/null

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-03 Thread Matthias Andree

On Wed, 03 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 I can send in a patch if you want (that just changes the docs, but not
 the functionality).
 
 Don't bother.  It will change in 2.5 anyway, I can live with the odd
 query until then.  If you really want to get only the version number
 then this will work for modutils 2.x for x = 3.
 
   (/sbin/depmod -V -n | head -1) 2/dev/null

I was just thinking to write -V "output version in addition to normal
operation" in --help, nothing bigger than like 5 minutes.

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-02 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:12:49 +0100, 
Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
>its version when --version is used, should it?

Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
behaviour; somewhere, somebody is bound to rely on depmod -V updating
modules.dep at the same time.  modutils 2.5 will clean up a lot of
backwards compatibility crud, including this one.  But you will not see
modutils 2.5 until Linus rolls kernel 2.5 and we start the next
development cycle.

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-02 Thread Matthias Andree

On Mon, 01 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

> ftp://ftp..kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.3
> 
> modutils-2.3.24-1.src.rpm   As above, in SRPM format

There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
its version when --version is used, should it? I'd rather expect exit(0)
or _exit(0); for --version and --help.

(modprobe shows the same behaviour as depmod, insmod throws its version
number and the usage information, I did not bother to check the other
tools.)

$ /sbin/depmod --version
depmod version 2.3.24
Warning: You do not need a link from /etc/conf.modules to
 /etc/modules.conf.  The use of /etc/conf.modules is deprecated,
 please remove /etc/conf.modules as soon as possible.  Command
   rm /etc/conf.modules
depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.18-ma2/modules.dep for writing

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-02 Thread Matthias Andree

On Mon, 01 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 ftp://ftp.country.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.3
 
 modutils-2.3.24-1.src.rpm   As above, in SRPM format

There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
its version when --version is used, should it? I'd rather expect exit(0)
or _exit(0); for --version and --help.

(modprobe shows the same behaviour as depmod, insmod throws its version
number and the usage information, I did not bother to check the other
tools.)

$ /sbin/depmod --version
depmod version 2.3.24
Warning: You do not need a link from /etc/conf.modules to
 /etc/modules.conf.  The use of /etc/conf.modules is deprecated,
 please remove /etc/conf.modules as soon as possible.  Command
   rm /etc/conf.modules
depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.18-ma2/modules.dep for writing

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.3.24 is available

2001-01-02 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:12:49 +0100, 
Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a problem. depmod should not try to do anything besides giving
its version when --version is used, should it?

Historical accident.  I want to clean that up but it breaks existing
behaviour; somewhere, somebody is bound to rely on depmod -V updating
modules.dep at the same time.  modutils 2.5 will clean up a lot of
backwards compatibility crud, including this one.  But you will not see
modutils 2.5 until Linus rolls kernel 2.5 and we start the next
development cycle.

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