Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-23 Thread Adrian Bunk

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:

> > >It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
> > >several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
> > >was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
> >
> > I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
> > the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
> > not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
> > turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
> > every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
> > way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.
> >
>
> i'm troubled by that fact that something the would be used to debug the
> kernel, is something that actually causes crashes. doesn't that kind of
> defeat the purpose..and introduce just another unstable element to the
> problem/crash at hand?


I had some unreproducable system crashes with NO watchdog and NO SMP
enabled that do no longer occure since I compile my kernels without
CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL. I don't know if it this is related, but there seems
to be a problem in one of the "Kernel hacking" options that isn't related
to watchdog or SMP.


> -Tony

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-23 Thread Admin Mailing Lists

> >
> >It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
> >several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
> >was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
> 
> I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
> the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
> not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
> turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
> every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
> way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.
> 

i'm troubled by that fact that something the would be used to debug the
kernel, is something that actually causes crashes. doesn't that kind of
defeat the purpose..and introduce just another unstable element to the
problem/crash at hand?

-Tony
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-23 Thread Admin Mailing Lists

 
 It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
 several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
 was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
 
 I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
 the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
 not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
 turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
 every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
 way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.
 

i'm troubled by that fact that something the would be used to debug the
kernel, is something that actually causes crashes. doesn't that kind of
defeat the purpose..and introduce just another unstable element to the
problem/crash at hand?

-Tony
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Intergrafix Internet Services

"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.orghttp://www.intergrafix.net
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-23 Thread Adrian Bunk

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:

  It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
  several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
  was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
 
  I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
  the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
  not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
  turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
  every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
  way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.
 

 i'm troubled by that fact that something the would be used to debug the
 kernel, is something that actually causes crashes. doesn't that kind of
 defeat the purpose..and introduce just another unstable element to the
 problem/crash at hand?


I had some unreproducable system crashes with NO watchdog and NO SMP
enabled that do no longer occure since I compile my kernels without
CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL. I don't know if it this is related, but there seems
to be a problem in one of the "Kernel hacking" options that isn't related
to watchdog or SMP.


 -Tony

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> 2.4.2-ac21
> o atyfb mode updates for powermac (Olaf Hering)

60 Hz modes should be marked 60 Hz.
Add separator comment.

--- linux-2.4.2-ac21/drivers/video/macmodes.c.orig  Fri Mar 23 08:17:54 2001
+++ linux-2.4.2-ac21/drivers/video/macmodes.c   Fri Mar 23 08:37:27 2001
@@ -96,11 +96,11 @@
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }, {
/* 1152x768, 60 Hz, Titanium PowerBook */
-   "mac21", 75, 1152, 768, 15386, 158, 26, 29, 3, 136, 6,
+   "mac21", 60, 1152, 768, 15386, 158, 26, 29, 3, 136, 6,
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }, {
/* 1600x1024, 60 Hz, Non-Interlaced (112.27 MHz dotclock) */
-   "mac22", 75, 1600, 1024, 8908, 88, 104, 1, 10, 16, 1,
+   "mac22", 60, 1600, 1024, 8908, 88, 104, 1, 10, 16, 1,
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }
 
@@ -162,6 +162,7 @@
 { VMODE_1024_768_75V, _modedb[9] },
 { VMODE_1024_768_70, _modedb[8] },
 { VMODE_1024_768_60, _modedb[7] },
+/* 1152x768 */
 { VMODE_1152_768_60, _modedb[14] },
 /* 1152x870 */
 { VMODE_1152_870_75, _modedb[11] },

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Keith Owens

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:50:49 +, 
"Andrew Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Keith Owens wrote:
>> 
>> Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
>> default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
>> cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
>> on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
>> parameter, no watchdog.
>
>It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
>several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
>was able to explain why, so it was turned off.

I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Andrew Morton

Keith Owens wrote:
> 
> Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
> default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
> cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
> on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
> parameter, no watchdog.

It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Keith Owens

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:02:54 +0100, 
Frank de Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux 2.4.2-ac21 does not like my box, or the other way around:
>
>loading the agpgart module (MGA G400 AGP) -> system hangs
>loading the SCSI module (53c875) -> system hangs
>
>In both cases, the magic SysRq sequence does not work, but it is still possible
>to ping the box from the outside. Connecting to it (ssh) does not work,
>however. I backed out both the SCSI driver patches as well as the agpgart
>patches, but this did not fix the symptoms. Looks more like a module-loading
>related issue, but I have not found it yet.
>
>All this on an SMP (Abit BP6) box by the way...

Activate the nmi watchdog with nmi_watchdog=1 in the boot parameters[*].
That will trip after 5 seconds and point to where it is hanging.  If
the nmi watchdog alone does not give enough data, add the kdb patch
(with nmi watchdog on) and start debugging.
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/kdb/download/ix86/, the -ac20 patch should
fit -ac21 as well.

Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
parameter, no watchdog.

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Sergey Kubushin

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

OK.

> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> > Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.
>
> You need to avoid enabling 64G support. The PAE stuff (as Linus said
> with
> 2.4.3pre6) is currently broken. Once Linus and co fix it I'll merge the
> fixed
> one

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Sergey Kubushin

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.

=== Cut ===
ld -m elf_i386 -T /tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e 
stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o 
ipc/ipc.o \
drivers/block/block.o drivers/char/char.o drivers/misc/misc.o 
drivers/net/net.o drivers/media/media.o  drivers/char/drm/drm.o drivers/net/fc/fc.o 
drivers/net/appletalk/appletalk.o drivers/net/tokenring/tr.o drivers/net/wan/wan.o 
drivers/atm/atm.o drivers/cdrom/driver.o drivers/pci/driver.o drivers/video/video.o 
drivers/net/hamradio/hamradio.o drivers/md/mddev.o \
net/network.o \
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/lib/lib.a 
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/lib/lib.a 
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
--end-group \
-o vmlinux
arch/i386/mm/mm.o: In function `do_check_pgt_cache':
arch/i386/mm/mm.o(.text+0x201): undefined reference to `get_pmd_slow'
mm/mm.o: In function `clear_page_tables':
mm/mm.o(.text+0x150): undefined reference to `pmd_free'
mm/mm.o: In function `__pmd_alloc':
mm/mm.o(.text+0x1fe4): undefined reference to `get_pmd_slow'
mm/mm.o(.text+0x207a): undefined reference to `pmd_free'
mm/mm.o(.text+0x208a): undefined reference to `pgd_populate'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
=== Cut ===

Here is the config (processor part). Full config is available on request.
Everything's modular except romfs and initrd.

=== Cut ===
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m
CONFIG_MICROCODE=m
CONFIG_X86_MSR=m
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m
# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PAE=y
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_SMP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y
=== Cut ===

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Alan Cox

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.

You need to avoid enabling 64G support. The PAE stuff (as Linus said with
2.4.3pre6) is currently broken. Once Linus and co fix it I'll merge the fixed
one

Alan

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Frank de Lange

Oops...

Linux 2.4.2-ac21 does not like my box, or the other way around:

loading the agpgart module (MGA G400 AGP) -> system hangs
loading the SCSI module (53c875) -> system hangs

In both cases, the magic SysRq sequence does not work, but it is still possible
to ping the box from the outside. Connecting to it (ssh) does not work,
however. I backed out both the SCSI driver patches as well as the agpgart
patches, but this did not fix the symptoms. Looks more like a module-loading
related issue, but I have not found it yet.

All this on an SMP (Abit BP6) box by the way...

The changes which introduced these symptoms have occured somewhere between -ac7
and -ac21, since -ac7 DID run on the same hardware.

Cheers//Frank
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven


Credit where credit's due...

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> 2.4.2-ac21
> o Update NEC DDB5476 eval board support   (Geert Uytterhoeven)

Actually this port was done by Jun Sun (based on the DDB5074 port).

> o Update NEC DDB5074 eval board support   (Geert Uytterhoeven)

And here Ralf just used indent on the existing sources :-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven


Credit where credit's due...

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
 2.4.2-ac21
 o Update NEC DDB5476 eval board support   (Geert Uytterhoeven)

Actually this port was done by Jun Sun (based on the DDB5074 port).

 o Update NEC DDB5074 eval board support   (Geert Uytterhoeven)

And here Ralf just used indent on the existing sources :-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Frank de Lange

Oops...

Linux 2.4.2-ac21 does not like my box, or the other way around:

loading the agpgart module (MGA G400 AGP) - system hangs
loading the SCSI module (53c875) - system hangs

In both cases, the magic SysRq sequence does not work, but it is still possible
to ping the box from the outside. Connecting to it (ssh) does not work,
however. I backed out both the SCSI driver patches as well as the agpgart
patches, but this did not fix the symptoms. Looks more like a module-loading
related issue, but I have not found it yet.

All this on an SMP (Abit BP6) box by the way...

The changes which introduced these symptoms have occured somewhere between -ac7
and -ac21, since -ac7 DID run on the same hardware.

Cheers//Frank
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Sergey Kubushin

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.

=== Cut ===
ld -m elf_i386 -T /tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e 
stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o 
ipc/ipc.o \
drivers/block/block.o drivers/char/char.o drivers/misc/misc.o 
drivers/net/net.o drivers/media/media.o  drivers/char/drm/drm.o drivers/net/fc/fc.o 
drivers/net/appletalk/appletalk.o drivers/net/tokenring/tr.o drivers/net/wan/wan.o 
drivers/atm/atm.o drivers/cdrom/driver.o drivers/pci/driver.o drivers/video/video.o 
drivers/net/hamradio/hamradio.o drivers/md/mddev.o \
net/network.o \
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/lib/lib.a 
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/lib/lib.a 
/tmp/build-kernel/usr/src/linux-2.4.2ac21/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
--end-group \
-o vmlinux
arch/i386/mm/mm.o: In function `do_check_pgt_cache':
arch/i386/mm/mm.o(.text+0x201): undefined reference to `get_pmd_slow'
mm/mm.o: In function `clear_page_tables':
mm/mm.o(.text+0x150): undefined reference to `pmd_free'
mm/mm.o: In function `__pmd_alloc':
mm/mm.o(.text+0x1fe4): undefined reference to `get_pmd_slow'
mm/mm.o(.text+0x207a): undefined reference to `pmd_free'
mm/mm.o(.text+0x208a): undefined reference to `pgd_populate'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
=== Cut ===

Here is the config (processor part). Full config is available on request.
Everything's modular except romfs and initrd.

=== Cut ===
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m
CONFIG_MICROCODE=m
CONFIG_X86_MSR=m
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m
# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PAE=y
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_SMP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y
=== Cut ===

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Alan Cox

 On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
 
 Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.

You need to avoid enabling 64G support. The PAE stuff (as Linus said with
2.4.3pre6) is currently broken. Once Linus and co fix it I'll merge the fixed
one

Alan

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Sergey Kubushin

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:

OK.

  On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
 
  Does not build for PPro/P-II. i586 is OK.

 You need to avoid enabling 64G support. The PAE stuff (as Linus said
 with
 2.4.3pre6) is currently broken. Once Linus and co fix it I'll merge the
 fixed
 one

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Keith Owens

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:02:54 +0100, 
Frank de Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux 2.4.2-ac21 does not like my box, or the other way around:

loading the agpgart module (MGA G400 AGP) - system hangs
loading the SCSI module (53c875) - system hangs

In both cases, the magic SysRq sequence does not work, but it is still possible
to ping the box from the outside. Connecting to it (ssh) does not work,
however. I backed out both the SCSI driver patches as well as the agpgart
patches, but this did not fix the symptoms. Looks more like a module-loading
related issue, but I have not found it yet.

All this on an SMP (Abit BP6) box by the way...

Activate the nmi watchdog with nmi_watchdog=1 in the boot parameters[*].
That will trip after 5 seconds and point to where it is hanging.  If
the nmi watchdog alone does not give enough data, add the kdb patch
(with nmi watchdog on) and start debugging.
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/kdb/download/ix86/, the -ac20 patch should
fit -ac21 as well.

Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
parameter, no watchdog.

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Andrew Morton

Keith Owens wrote:
 
 Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
 default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
 cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
 on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
 parameter, no watchdog.

It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
was able to explain why, so it was turned off.
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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Keith Owens

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:50:49 +, 
"Andrew Morton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith Owens wrote:
 
 Am I the only person who is annoyed that nmi watchdog is now off by
 default and the only way to activate it is by a boot parameter?  You
 cannot even patch the kernel to build a version that has nmi watchdog
 on because the startup code runs out of the __setup routine, no boot
 parameter, no watchdog.

It was causing SMP boxes to crash mysteriously after
several hours or days.  Quite a lot of them.  Nobody
was able to explain why, so it was turned off.

I know why it was turned off by default.  The annoying this is that now
the *only* way to activate the watchdog is via a boot command.  It is
not possible to compile a standard debugging kernel with this option
turned on, you have to rely on every user setting the boot options for
every kernel.  If it is going to be off by default there should be a
way to patch the kernel to make it on by default.

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Re: Linux 2.4.2-ac21

2001-03-22 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
 2.4.2-ac21
 o atyfb mode updates for powermac (Olaf Hering)

60 Hz modes should be marked 60 Hz.
Add separator comment.

--- linux-2.4.2-ac21/drivers/video/macmodes.c.orig  Fri Mar 23 08:17:54 2001
+++ linux-2.4.2-ac21/drivers/video/macmodes.c   Fri Mar 23 08:37:27 2001
@@ -96,11 +96,11 @@
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }, {
/* 1152x768, 60 Hz, Titanium PowerBook */
-   "mac21", 75, 1152, 768, 15386, 158, 26, 29, 3, 136, 6,
+   "mac21", 60, 1152, 768, 15386, 158, 26, 29, 3, 136, 6,
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }, {
/* 1600x1024, 60 Hz, Non-Interlaced (112.27 MHz dotclock) */
-   "mac22", 75, 1600, 1024, 8908, 88, 104, 1, 10, 16, 1,
+   "mac22", 60, 1600, 1024, 8908, 88, 104, 1, 10, 16, 1,
FB_SYNC_HOR_HIGH_ACT|FB_SYNC_VERT_HIGH_ACT, FB_VMODE_NONINTERLACED
 }
 
@@ -162,6 +162,7 @@
 { VMODE_1024_768_75V, mac_modedb[9] },
 { VMODE_1024_768_70, mac_modedb[8] },
 { VMODE_1024_768_60, mac_modedb[7] },
+/* 1152x768 */
 { VMODE_1152_768_60, mac_modedb[14] },
 /* 1152x870 */
 { VMODE_1152_870_75, mac_modedb[11] },

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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