Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-02-02 Thread Mo McKinlay

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  > Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
  > accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
  > EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
  > (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.

  > Maybe you can still download stuff if you are running from a
  > Web Crawler, but it doesn't work with `ftp` anymore.

We've had no problem reports, and it works fine for me.

Mo.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-02-01 Thread Matt Kemner

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:


root> See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
root> they'll let you have any"

Richard, I just cut & pasted this from your attachment:

"Please note that the directory structure on ftp.gnu.org was
 redisorganzied fairly recently, such that there is a directory for each
 program.  One side effect of this is that if you cd into the gnu
 directory, and do
 > ls emacs*
 you will get a list of all the files in the emacs directory, but it will
 not be obvious from the ls output that you have to `cd emacs' before you
 can download those files."

 - Matt

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread mirabilos

Did you a make clean/mrproper before?
I usually do, and the kernel runs fine.

-mirabilos

-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12+(proprietary extensions) # Updated:20010129 nick=mirabilos
GO/S d@ s--: a--- C++ UL P--- L++$(-^lang) E(joe) W+(++) loc=.de
N? o K? w-(+$) O+>+++ M-- V- PS+++@ PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5? X+ R+ !tv(silly)
b* DI- D+ G(>++) e(^age) h! r(-) y--(!y+) /* lang=NASM;GW-BASIC;C */
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--


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[OT] Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Doug McNaught

"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Sean Hunter wrote:
> 
> Okay! I'm answering the guy who gave me the kindest response.
> The rest of you guys can just hold your belly.
> 
> Right. I'm getting blind. Been typing the same error
> every time I tried the site.

As one of the guys who just flamed you, I'll admit to having spent at
least 15 minutes scratching my head over this very problem (at a
different site, that *didn't* have an automatically displayed README
that explained the potential problem in very clear terms).

This one will never bite you again, unless you have a very bad
memory.  ;)

-Doug
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> > > > 
> > > > It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
> > > 
> > > I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
> > 
> > I have a hard time believing that you don't have
> > the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
> > stuff...
> > 
> 
> Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
> accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
> EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
> (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.
> 
> Maybe you can still download stuff if you are running from a
> Web Crawler, but it doesn't work with `ftp` anymore.

Works fine for me with "ftp"... Passive FTP is incredibly slow, though...


James.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Doug McNaught

"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
> they'll let you have any"

[output of README when you connect:]

>  Please note that the directory structure on ftp.gnu.org was redisorganzied
>  fairly recently, such that there is a directory for each program.  One side
>  effect of this is that if you cd into the gnu directory, and do
>  > ls emacs*
>  you will get a list of all the files in the emacs directory, but it will not
>  be obvious from the ls output that you have to `cd emacs' before you can
>  download those files.

Now,

> ftp> cd gnu
> ftp> ls mak*
> 200 PORT command successful.
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
> -rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp  1095 Jul 14  1997 makeinfo.README
> 
> make:
> -rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 27010 Sep 23  1989 make-3.55-3.56.diff.gz
[...]
> -rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1030393 Jun 24  2000 make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp959005 Apr 11  2000 make-3.79.tar.gz
> 226 Transfer complete.
> ftp> bin
> 200 Type set to I.
> ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> local: make-3.79.1.tar.gz remote: make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> 200 PORT command successful.
> 550 make-3.79.1.tar.gz: No such file or directory

Duh.

Read the README next time; that's what it's there for.

-Doug
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Sean Hunter wrote:

Okay! I'm answering the guy who gave me the kindest response.
The rest of you guys can just hold your belly.

Right. I'm getting blind. Been typing the same error
every time I tried the site.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Mike Dresser

> ftp> ls mak*
>

> make:
>
> -rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1030393 Jun 24  2000 make-3.79.1.tar.gz
>

> ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
>

get make/make-3.79.1.tar.gz

You missed the make: it did just before it listed the contents of make/

Just tried it myself with make/make-3.79.1.tar.gz, works.  Now, if i'd remembered to 
turn on bin mode, I'd have
a useable file.

Mike Dresser

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, David Woodhouse wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > ftp> cd gnu
> > ftp> ls
> > ftp> ls mak*
> > ftp> bin
> > ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> > ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> > ftp> exit
> 
> Try typing 'pwd' instead of 'exit' at the end of this script.

He must have "spent most of last night" trying to find other
explanations for this error since, obviously, he can't be the
one at fault here ;)

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread David Woodhouse



[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> ftp> cd gnu
> ftp> ls
> ftp> ls mak*
> ftp> bin
> ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> ftp> get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
> ftp> exit

Try typing 'pwd' instead of 'exit' at the end of this script.


dwmw2


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread anders . karlsson




Just a thought, how about 'cd make' before you do the get?


  /Anders


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

> See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
> they'll let you have any"

Thanks for confirming (once again) your status as a
person-who-can't-even-bother-to-figure-out-how-ls-works

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> 
> > > > I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
> > > 
> > > I have a hard time believing that you don't have
> > > the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
> > > stuff...
> > 
> > Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
> > accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
> > EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
> > (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.
> 
> No need to ridicule the maintainers of ftp.gnu.org.
> 
> Despite their site being really really full, it only
> took me about 20 seconds to locate /gnu/make
> 
> (and yes, that is without having visited their site
> in the last 2 years or so)
> 

See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
they'll let you have any"

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Script started on Wed Jan 31 09:31:18 2001
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Connected to ftp.gnu.org.

220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre9 Server (ProFTPD) [gnudist.gnu.org]

Name (ftp.gnu.org:root): ftp

331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.

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 Please note that the directory structure on ftp.gnu.org was redisorganzied

 fairly recently, such that there is a directory for each program.  One side

 effect of this is that if you cd into the gnu directory, and do

 > ls emacs*

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 be obvious from the ls output that you have to `cd emacs' before you can

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 Note further the non-GNU programs that were formerly in gnu/ have moved to

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230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply.

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Using binary mode to transfer files.

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200 PORT command successful.

150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.

-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp  1516 Aug 18 18:25 README

drwxr-xr-x   2 ftp  ftp  1024 Jan  1  1999 bin

-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   2000671 Jan 30 15:01 find-ls.txt

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drwxr-xr-x 176 ftp  ftp 26624 Jan 25 16:18 gnu

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-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1242167 Jan 30 15:00 ls-lrR.txt

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lrw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp11 Aug 25 18:59 non-gnu -> gnu/non-gnu

drwxr-xr-x   6 ftp  ftp  1024 Jan 25 16:46 old-gnu

lrw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 1 Jan  8  1999 pub -> .

-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   980 Aug 18 18:25 welcome.msg

226 Transfer complete.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

> > > I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
> > 
> > I have a hard time believing that you don't have
> > the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
> > stuff...
> 
> Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
> accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
> EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
> (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.

No need to ridicule the maintainers of ftp.gnu.org.

Despite their site being really really full, it only
took me about 20 seconds to locate /gnu/make

(and yes, that is without having visited their site
in the last 2 years or so)

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Michael B. Trausch wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
> > it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
> > the source for bison "yacc". 
> > 
> 
> I'd wonder if you actually know where the Free Software Foundation's
> servers lie...

Yes, and I even have contributed source on them.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> > > 
> > > It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
> > 
> > I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
> 
> I have a hard time believing that you don't have
> the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
> stuff...
> 

Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
(sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.

Maybe you can still download stuff if you are running from a
Web Crawler, but it doesn't work with `ftp` anymore.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Michael B. Trausch

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> 
> I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
> it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
> the source for bison "yacc". 
> 

I'd wonder if you actually know where the Free Software Foundation's
servers lie...

But I won't be a total prick and not tell you :)  That'd just be outright
wrong in the name of free softare.  http://www.gnu.org/ is the
website... and you can get any of GNU's software from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/.

- Mike

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> > 
> > It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
> 
> I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+

I have a hard time believing that you don't have
the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
stuff...

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> 
> > The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> 
> It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
> 
> Rik
> --

I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
the source for bison "yacc". 


Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 
  The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
 
 It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
 
 Rik
 --

I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
the source for bison "yacc". 


Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
  On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
  
   The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
  
  It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
 
 I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+

I have a hard time believing that you don't have
the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
stuff...

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Michael B. Trausch

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 
 I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
 it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
 the source for bison "yacc". 
 

I'd wonder if you actually know where the Free Software Foundation's
servers lie...

But I won't be a total prick and not tell you :)  That'd just be outright
wrong in the name of free softare.  http://www.gnu.org/ is the
website... and you can get any of GNU's software from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/.

- Mike

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
  On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
   On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
   
The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
   
   It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
  
  I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
 
 I have a hard time believing that you don't have
 the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
 stuff...
 

Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
(sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.

Maybe you can still download stuff if you are running from a
Web Crawler, but it doesn't work with `ftp` anymore.

Cheers,
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Michael B. Trausch wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
  
  I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+ Does anybody know were
  it is now? Also, for a long time, I have been trying to find
  the source for bison "yacc". 
  
 
 I'd wonder if you actually know where the Free Software Foundation's
 servers lie...

Yes, and I even have contributed source on them.

Cheers,
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
  On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

   I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
  
  I have a hard time believing that you don't have
  the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
  stuff...
 
 Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
 accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
 EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
 (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.

No need to ridicule the maintainers of ftp.gnu.org.

Despite their site being really really full, it only
took me about 20 seconds to locate /gnu/make

(and yes, that is without having visited their site
in the last 2 years or so)

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
  On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
   On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 
I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
   
   I have a hard time believing that you don't have
   the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
   stuff...
  
  Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
  accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
  EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
  (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.
 
 No need to ridicule the maintainers of ftp.gnu.org.
 
 Despite their site being really really full, it only
 took me about 20 seconds to locate /gnu/make
 
 (and yes, that is without having visited their site
 in the last 2 years or so)
 

See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
they'll let you have any"

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Script started on Wed Jan 31 09:31:18 2001
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Connected to ftp.gnu.org.

220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre9 Server (ProFTPD) [gnudist.gnu.org]

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331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.

Password:

230-If you have any problems with the GNU software or its downloading, please

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 Please note that the directory structure on ftp.gnu.org was redisorganzied

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 effect of this is that if you cd into the gnu directory, and do

  ls emacs*

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 Note further the non-GNU programs that were formerly in gnu/ have moved to

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Using binary mode to transfer files.

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150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread Rik van Riel

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

 See attached. "Just because you can see the candy doesn't mean
 they'll let you have any"

Thanks for confirming (once again) your status as a
person-who-can't-even-bother-to-figure-out-how-ls-works

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread anders . karlsson




Just a thought, how about 'cd make' before you do the get?


  /Anders


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread David Woodhouse



[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 ftp cd gnu
 ftp ls
 ftp ls mak*
 ftp bin
 ftp get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
 ftp get make-3.79.1.tar.gz
 ftp exit

Try typing 'pwd' instead of 'exit' at the end of this script.


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
  On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
   On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

 The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.

It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
   
   I cannot find the source for GNU Make 3.77+
  
  I have a hard time believing that you don't have
  the skills to go to ftp.gnu.org and download the
  stuff...
  
 
 Now just a cotton-picken minute. When was the last time you
 accessed that site? I spent most of last night looking through
 EMPTY directories with files that are invisible to ftp but
 (sometimes) show with their `ls`, and never with nlist.
 
 Maybe you can still download stuff if you are running from a
 Web Crawler, but it doesn't work with `ftp` anymore.

Works fine for me with "ftp"... Passive FTP is incredibly slow, though...


James.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread mirabilos

Did you a make clean/mrproper before?
I usually do, and the kernel runs fine.

-mirabilos

-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12+(proprietary extensions) # Updated:20010129 nick=mirabilos
GO/S d@ s--: a--- C++ UL P--- L++$(-^lang) E(joe) W+(++) loc=.de
N? o K? w-(+$) O M-- V- PS+++@ PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5? X+ R+ !tv(silly)
b* DI- D+ G(++) e(^age) h! r(-) y--(!y+) /* lang=NASM;GW-BASIC;C */
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Peter Samuelson


[Richard B. Johnson]
> Bob Tracy found the problem: the second ':' really needs to be
> escaped even though newer versions of make allow what was written.

> -$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS := -I./include $(CFLAGS)
> +$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS \:= -I./include $(CFLAGS)

No, that's a workaround in that it subverts the purpose of the line.
(In which case, better to delete the line entirely.)  The correct fix
is to upgrade to a version of 'make' that understands the syntax used
there.  Yes, the FSF being the FSF, they keep adding features to their
software.  And yes, some of us are using some of those features.

It could have been worse.  Documentation/Changes lists version 3.77,
from July 1998.  We (at least I) actually considered using features
from 3.78, but that was quickly shot down since 3.78 is too new -
September 1999.

Peter
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Re: Reiserfs problem was: Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Chris Mason



On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 03:42:36 PM -0800 "Brett G. Person"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Worked fine here but  i am getting segfaults on my Reiser filesystems. 
> I've been distracted by a project over the last few days. Is what I'm
> seeing a symptom of the fs corruption people were talking about last week?
> 

If reiserfs is the cause you should have some clues in /var/log/messages.
Does the kernel compile on ext2 on the same box?

-chris


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Reiserfs problem was: Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Brett G. Person

Worked fine here but  i am getting segfaults on my Reiser filesystems. 
I've been distracted by a project over the last few days. Is what I'm
seeing a symptom of the fs corruption people were talking about last week?

Brett G. Person
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> 
> > The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> 
> It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
> 
> Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:09:48 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
>> You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?
>
>Seldom, only once or twice a day. Guess that's not often enough
>to keep up on the new tool requirements.

make 3.77 was added to Documentation/Changes in 2.4.0-test7-pre4.1,
approx. 15 Aug 2000.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:57:44 -0500 (EST), 
> "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
> >> "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> >> >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
> >> >Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
> >> 
> >> Which version of make are you running?
> >> 
> > 3.74
> >
> >y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
> 
> You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?

Seldom, only once or twice a day. Guess that's not often enough
to keep up on the new tool requirements.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
> > "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> > >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
> > >Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
> > 
> > Which version of make are you running?
> > 
>   3.74
> 
> 
> y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
> Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
> need built okay.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dick Johnson
> 
> Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).
> 

Bob Tracy found the problem: the second ':' really needs to be
escaped even though newer versions of make allow what was written.


> make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
> Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.

Try the following small patch.  Make version 3.77 works fine, but I
ran into the same problem you did with version 3.75.

--CUT HERE--
--- linux/drivers/acpi/Makefile.origTue Jan 30 09:01:26 2001
+++ linux/drivers/acpi/Makefile Tue Jan 30 09:00:10 2001
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 # will hit everything, too risky in 2.4.0-prerelease.  Bandaid by tweaking
 # CFLAGS only for .ver targets.  Review after 2.4.0 release.  KAO
 
-$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS := -I./include $(CFLAGS)
+$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS \:= -I./include $(CFLAGS)
 
 acpi-subdirs := common dispatcher events hardware \
interpreter namespace parser resources tables
--CUT HERE--



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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:57:44 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
>> "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
>> >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
>> >Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
>> 
>> Which version of make are you running?
>> 
>   3.74
>
>y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?

You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?

Current Minimal Requirements
o  Gnu make   3.77# make --version

PEBCAK.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Xuan Baldauf



"Richard B. Johnson" wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST),
> > "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> > >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
> > >Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
> >
> > Which version of make are you running?
> >
> 3.74
>
> y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
> Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
> need built okay.

I experienced similar problems with make 3.76.1. After upgrading to 3.79.1,
the problems were gone.

>
>
> Cheers,
> Dick Johnson
>
> Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).
>
> "Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
> course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
> obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
> "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
> >make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
> >Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
> 
> Which version of make are you running?
> 
3.74


y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
need built okay.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
>make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
>Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.

Which version of make are you running?

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Rik van Riel

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

> The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.

It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Rik van Riel

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

 The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.

It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.

Rik
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.

Which version of make are you running?

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
 "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
 make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
 Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
 
 Which version of make are you running?
 
3.74


y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
need built okay.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

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course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Xuan Baldauf



"Richard B. Johnson" wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

  On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST),
  "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
  make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
  Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
 
  Which version of make are you running?
 
 3.74

 y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
 Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
 need built okay.

I experienced similar problems with make 3.76.1. After upgrading to 3.79.1,
the problems were gone.



 Cheers,
 Dick Johnson

 Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

 "Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
 course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
 obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:57:44 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
 "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
 make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
 Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
 
 Which version of make are you running?
 
   3.74

y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?

You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?

Current Minimal Requirements
o  Gnu make   3.77# make --version

PEBCAK.

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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
 
  On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
  "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
  make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
  Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
  
  Which version of make are you running?
  
   3.74
 
 
 y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
 Temporary 'fix' was `make -i` for the dependencies. All files I
 need built okay.
 
 Cheers,
 Dick Johnson
 
 Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).
 

Bob Tracy found the problem: the second ':' really needs to be
escaped even though newer versions of make allow what was written.


 make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
 Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.

Try the following small patch.  Make version 3.77 works fine, but I
ran into the same problem you did with version 3.75.

--CUT HERE--
--- linux/drivers/acpi/Makefile.origTue Jan 30 09:01:26 2001
+++ linux/drivers/acpi/Makefile Tue Jan 30 09:00:10 2001
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 # will hit everything, too risky in 2.4.0-prerelease.  Bandaid by tweaking
 # CFLAGS only for .ver targets.  Review after 2.4.0 release.  KAO
 
-$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS := -I./include $(CFLAGS)
+$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS \:= -I./include $(CFLAGS)
 
 acpi-subdirs := common dispatcher events hardware \
interpreter namespace parser resources tables
--CUT HERE--



Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

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course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Richard B. Johnson

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:57:44 -0500 (EST), 
 "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
 
  On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:45:16 -0500 (EST), 
  "Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
  make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/drivers/acpi'
  Makefile:29: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.
  
  Which version of make are you running?
  
  3.74
 
 y'a mean even make isn't make anymore?
 
 You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?

Seldom, only once or twice a day. Guess that's not often enough
to keep up on the new tool requirements.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (799.53 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Keith Owens

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:09:48 -0500 (EST), 
"Richard B. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Keith Owens wrote:
 You mean that nobody reads Documentation/Changes any more?

Seldom, only once or twice a day. Guess that's not often enough
to keep up on the new tool requirements.

make 3.77 was added to Documentation/Changes in 2.4.0-test7-pre4.1,
approx. 15 Aug 2000.

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Reiserfs problem was: Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Brett G. Person

Worked fine here but  i am getting segfaults on my Reiser filesystems. 
I've been distracted by a project over the last few days. Is what I'm
seeing a symptom of the fs corruption people were talking about last week?

Brett G. Person
415-358-2656
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Penguin Computing - The World's Most Reliable Linux Systems

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
 
  The subject says it all. `make dep` is now broken.
 
 It worked fine here, with 2.4.1 unpacked from the tarball.
 
 Rik
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Re: Reiserfs problem was: Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Chris Mason



On Tuesday, January 30, 2001 03:42:36 PM -0800 "Brett G. Person"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Worked fine here but  i am getting segfaults on my Reiser filesystems. 
 I've been distracted by a project over the last few days. Is what I'm
 seeing a symptom of the fs corruption people were talking about last week?
 

If reiserfs is the cause you should have some clues in /var/log/messages.
Does the kernel compile on ext2 on the same box?

-chris


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Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-30 Thread Peter Samuelson


[Richard B. Johnson]
 Bob Tracy found the problem: the second ':' really needs to be
 escaped even though newer versions of make allow what was written.

 -$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS := -I./include $(CFLAGS)
 +$(MODINCL)/%.ver: CFLAGS \:= -I./include $(CFLAGS)

No, that's a workaround in that it subverts the purpose of the line.
(In which case, better to delete the line entirely.)  The correct fix
is to upgrade to a version of 'make' that understands the syntax used
there.  Yes, the FSF being the FSF, they keep adding features to their
software.  And yes, some of us are using some of those features.

It could have been worse.  Documentation/Changes lists version 3.77,
from July 1998.  We (at least I) actually considered using features
from 3.78, but that was quickly shot down since 3.78 is too new -
September 1999.

Peter
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