Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
Tejun & Robert, just a friendly reminder for an email/issue below.
On Thursday 09 August 2018 13:48:52 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 10 May 2018 15:51:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 August 2015 20:06:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> > > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > Hello,
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> > > > >> >> > controller:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > > > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > > > >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > > > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> > > > >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> > > > >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> > > > >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> > > > >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > > > >> >> > action 0x0
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> > > > >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> > > > >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > > > >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> > > > >> >> > generated.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> > > > >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> > > > >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> > > > >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> > > > >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> > > > >> >> your distro perhaps?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> > > > >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> > > > >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> > > > >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> > > > >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> > > > >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > --
> > > > >> >> > Pali Rohár
> > > > >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hello,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > > > >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> > > > >> > from udev script
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > > > >> > HDD.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > > > >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> > > > >> > from
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > hdparm is:
> > > > >> > /dev/sda:
> > > > >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > > > >> > APM_level = not supported
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > > > >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > > > >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Here is another output:
> > > > >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > *Power Management feature set
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > > > >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> > > > >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> > > > >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> > > > >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Thursday 10 May 2018 15:51:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 August 2015 20:06:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > Hello,
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> > > >> >> > controller:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > > >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> > > >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> > > >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> > > >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> > > >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > > >> >> > action 0x0
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> > > >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> > > >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > > >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> > > >> >> > generated.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> > > >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> > > >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> > > >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> > > >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> > > >> >> your distro perhaps?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> > > >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> > > >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> > > >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> > > >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> > > >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > Pali Rohár
> > > >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hello,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > > >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> > > >> > from udev script
> > > >> >
> > > >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> > > >> >
> > > >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > > >> > HDD.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > > >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> > > >> > from
> > > >> >
> > > >> > hdparm is:
> > > >> > /dev/sda:
> > > >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > > >> > APM_level = not supported
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > > >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > > >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Here is another output:
> > > >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> > > >> >
> > > >> > *Power Management feature set
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> > > >> >
> > > >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > > >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> > > >>
> > > >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> > > >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> > > >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> > > >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error
> > > > message. I post is here because it show "Power Management feature
> > > > set" is supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM)
> > > > command, right?
> > >
> > > As far as I know, yes.
> > >
> > > >> The easiest way to test
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Tuesday 04 August 2015 20:06:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> > wrote:
> > > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > Hello,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> > >> >> > controller:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> > >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> > >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> > >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> > >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > >> >> > action 0x0
> > >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> > >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> > >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> > >> >> > generated.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> > >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> > >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> > >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> > >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> > >> >> your distro perhaps?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> > >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> > >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> > >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> > >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> > >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Pali Rohár
> > >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> > >> > from udev script
> > >> >
> > >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> > >> >
> > >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > >> > HDD.
> > >> >
> > >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> > >> >
> > >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> > >> > from
> > >> >
> > >> > hdparm is:
> > >> > /dev/sda:
> > >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > >> > APM_level = not supported
> > >> >
> > >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is another output:
> > >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> > >> >
> > >> > *Power Management feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> > >>
> > >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> > >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> > >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> > >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
> > >
> > > Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error
> > > message. I post is here because it show "Power Management feature
> > > set" is supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM)
> > > command, right?
> >
> > As far as I know, yes.
> >
> > >> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition
> > >> check for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in
> > >> nv_adma_use_reg_mode in drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force
> > >> it to disable ADMA for all non-data commands.
> > >
> > > Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Tuesday 04 August 2015 20:06:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> > wrote:
> > > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > Hello,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> > >> >> > controller:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> > >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> > >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> > >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> > >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > >> >> > action 0x0
> > >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> > >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> > >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> > >> >> > generated.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> > >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> > >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> > >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> > >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> > >> >> your distro perhaps?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> > >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> > >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> > >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> > >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> > >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Pali Rohár
> > >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> > >> > from udev script
> > >> >
> > >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> > >> >
> > >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > >> > HDD.
> > >> >
> > >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> > >> >
> > >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> > >> > from
> > >> >
> > >> > hdparm is:
> > >> > /dev/sda:
> > >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > >> > APM_level = not supported
> > >> >
> > >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is another output:
> > >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> > >> >
> > >> > *Power Management feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> > >>
> > >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> > >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> > >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> > >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
> > >
> > > Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error
> > > message. I post is here because it show "Power Management feature
> > > set" is supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM)
> > > command, right?
> >
> > As far as I know, yes.
> >
> > >> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition
> > >> check for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in
> > >> nv_adma_use_reg_mode in drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force
> > >> it to disable ADMA for all non-data commands.
> > >
> > > Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Tuesday 04 August 2015 20:06:57 Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> > wrote:
> > > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > Hello,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> > >> >> > controller:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> > >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> > >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> > >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> > >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> > >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > >> >> > action 0x0
> > >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> > >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> > >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> > >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> > >> >> > generated.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> > >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> > >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> > >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> > >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> > >> >> your distro perhaps?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> > >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> > >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> > >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> > >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> > >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Pali Rohár
> > >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> >
> > >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> > >> > from udev script
> > >> >
> > >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> > >> >
> > >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > >> > HDD.
> > >> >
> > >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> > >> >
> > >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> > >> > from
> > >> >
> > >> > hdparm is:
> > >> > /dev/sda:
> > >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > >> > APM_level = not supported
> > >> >
> > >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> > >> >
> > >> > Here is another output:
> > >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> > >> >
> > >> > *Power Management feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> > >> >
> > >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> > >>
> > >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> > >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> > >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> > >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
> > >
> > > Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error
> > > message. I post is here because it show "Power Management feature
> > > set" is supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM)
> > > command, right?
> >
> > As far as I know, yes.
> >
> > >> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition
> > >> check for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in
> > >> nv_adma_use_reg_mode in drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force
> > >> it to disable ADMA for all non-data commands.
> > >
> > > Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 August 2015 07:20:05 Mark Lord wrote:
>> On 15-08-01 09:45 PM, Robert Hancock wrote:
>> >On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
>> >>On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
>> >>>On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>>wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
>> ..
>> >>>It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable APM
>> >>>power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely because
>> >>>it doesn't support that command).
>> ..
>> >> /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
>> >>
>> >>And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
>> >>hdparm is:
>> >>
>> >> /dev/sda:
>> >> setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
>> >> APM_level = not supported
>> ..
>> >> $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
>> >> *Power Management feature set
>>
>> That's not the same as APM ("Advanced" Power Management).
>>
>> >However, these NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that,
>> >so it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
>>
>> I wonder if NVIDIA simply bought out the IP from Pacific Digital
>> when they went bust? Pacific Digital invented the original "ADMA",
>> and the pdc_adma.c driver in the kernel knows all about it.
>> If the IP is pretty similar (identical?) then we could probably
>> improve things.
>>
>
> Can you check if nvidia ADMA code and that Pacific Digital ADMA code is
> similar or not?
The ADMA spec that Pacific Digital adapter (somewhat) implements was
documented in a standard, T13 1510D, ATA/ATAPI Host Adapters Standard.
My guess is that is where NVIDIA got the ideas for this controller
setup. I would be fairly surprised if the controller actually
contained any Pacific Digital IP, as the NVIDIA controllers are quite
different (the original ADMA spec didn't envision SATA, NCQ or 64-bit
DMA while the NVIDIA controllers support these for example).
Even if there is some shared IP, the issues with these controllers
seem to be more controller bugs than issues with how the controller is
being used. In fact, the later NVIDIA Windows drivers suspiciously
removed all references to NCQ support in the control panel, which
suggests that maybe even they gave up on it. Even if you don't use any
ADMA features at all (even when using the default Microsoft IDE driver
in Windows), the error handling is very shaky - things like disc read
errors on an optical drive connected to the controller will sometimes
hard-lock the machine.
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Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Tuesday 25 August 2015 07:20:05 Mark Lord wrote:
> On 15-08-01 09:45 PM, Robert Hancock wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> >>On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>>wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
> ..
> >>>It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable APM
> >>>power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely because
> >>>it doesn't support that command).
> ..
> >> /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> >>
> >>And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
> >>hdparm is:
> >>
> >> /dev/sda:
> >> setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> >> APM_level = not supported
> ..
> >> $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> >> *Power Management feature set
>
> That's not the same as APM ("Advanced" Power Management).
>
> >However, these NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that,
> >so it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
>
> I wonder if NVIDIA simply bought out the IP from Pacific Digital
> when they went bust? Pacific Digital invented the original "ADMA",
> and the pdc_adma.c driver in the kernel knows all about it.
> If the IP is pretty similar (identical?) then we could probably
> improve things.
>
Can you check if nvidia ADMA code and that Pacific Digital ADMA code is
similar or not?
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Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On 15-08-01 09:45 PM, Robert Hancock wrote:
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
wrote:
Hello,
I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
..
It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable APM
power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely because
it doesn't support that command).
..
/sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
hdparm is:
/dev/sda:
setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
APM_level = not supported
..
$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
*Power Management feature set
That's not the same as APM ("Advanced" Power Management).
However, these NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that,
so it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
I wonder if NVIDIA simply bought out the IP from Pacific Digital
when they went bust? Pacific Digital invented the original "ADMA",
and the pdc_adma.c driver in the kernel knows all about it.
If the IP is pretty similar (identical?) then we could probably
improve things.
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Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Monday 03 August 2015 05:02:15 Robert Hancock wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár
> wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata
> >> >> > controller:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> >> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> >> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default)
> >> >> > by adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I
> >> >> > found that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and
> >> >> > reduced CPU overhead. It looks like adma mode is working,
> >> >> > but at every boot I see one same error message in dmesg:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> >> >> > action 0x0
> >> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> >> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> >> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd
> >> >> > ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 tag 16
> >> >> > [ 16.823530] res
> >> >> > 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> >> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> >> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not
> >> >> > generated.
> >> >>
> >> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> >> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails
> >> >> (likely because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure
> >> >> where that would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel
> >> >> doesn't issue that command itself. Something that's part of
> >> >> your distro perhaps?
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> >> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe
> >> >> it's not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> >> >>
> >> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is
> >> >> > that command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with
> >> >> > adma mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> >> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Pali Rohár
> >> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> >> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes
> >> > from udev script
> >> >
> >> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> >> >
> >> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> >> > HDD.
> >> >
> >> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> >> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> >> >
> >> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output
> >> > from
> >> >
> >> > hdparm is:
> >> > /dev/sda:
> >> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> >> > APM_level = not supported
> >> >
> >> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> >> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> >> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> >> >
> >> > Here is another output:
> >> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> >> >
> >> > *Power Management feature set
> >> >
> >> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> >> >
> >> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> >> > *Host-initiated interface power management
> >>
> >> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> >> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these
> >> NVIDIA SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so
> >> it's possible there's an unknown issue there.
> >
> > Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error
> > message. I post is here because it show "Power Management feature
> > set" is supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM)
> > command, right?
>
> As far as I know, yes.
>
> >> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition
> >> check for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in
> >> nv_adma_use_reg_mode in drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force
> >> it to disable ADMA for all non-data commands.
> >
> > Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that machine, I will do kernel
> > patching later (when I have physical access to it).
> >
> >> I really don't know why Ubuntu is disabling APM on all drives on
> >> bootup however. Especially for laptops, that seems like a silly
> >> thing to do explicitly. Sounds like one of the silly t
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
>> wrote:
>> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
>> >> >
>> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
>> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
>> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
>> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
>> >> >
>> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default) by
>> >> > adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I found
>> >> > that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and reduced CPU
>> >> > overhead. It looks like adma mode is working, but at every boot
>> >> > I see one same error message in dmesg:
>> >> >
>> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
>> >> > action 0x0
>> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
>> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
>> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
>> >> > tag 16
>> >> > [ 16.823530] res 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
>> >> > Emask 0x1 (device error)
>> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
>> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
>> >> >
>> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not generated.
>> >>
>> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
>> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely
>> >> because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure where that
>> >> would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel doesn't issue
>> >> that command itself. Something that's part of your distro
>> >> perhaps?
>> >>
>> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
>> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe it's
>> >> not being issued otherwise for some reason?
>> >>
>> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is that
>> >> > command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with adma
>> >> > mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
>> >> > problems (except that one error message).
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Pali Rohár
>> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
>> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes from
>> > udev script
>> >
>> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
>> >
>> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
>> > HDD.
>> >
>> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
>> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
>> >
>> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
>> >
>> > hdparm is:
>> > /dev/sda:
>> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
>> > APM_level = not supported
>> >
>> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
>> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
>> > should not be sent via ADMA?
>> >
>> > Here is another output:
>> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
>> >
>> > *Power Management feature set
>> >
>> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
>> >
>> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
>> > *Host-initiated interface power management
>>
>> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
>> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these NVIDIA
>> SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so it's
>> possible there's an unknown issue there.
>>
>
> Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error message.
> I post is here because it show "Power Management feature set" is
> supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM) command,
> right?
As far as I know, yes.
>
>> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition check
>> for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in nv_adma_use_reg_mode in
>> drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force it to disable ADMA for all
>> non-data commands.
>>
>
> Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that machine, I will do kernel
> patching later (when I have physical access to it).
>
>> I really don't know why Ubuntu is disabling APM on all drives on
>> bootup however. Especially for laptops, that seems like a silly thing
>> to do explicitly. Sounds like one of the silly things Ubuntu is known
>> to do without consulting people.
>
> Looks like this comes from upstream udev/systemd project :-( Anyway, for
> laptops on battery ubuntu has another set of scripts which turn on APM
> (based on connected/disconnected AC adapter).
There's no such scripts in Fedora, so either they removed it, or it's
something that either Debian or Ubuntu has
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Sunday 02 August 2015 03:45:32 Robert Hancock wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár
> wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
> >> >
> >> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> >> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial
> >> > ATA Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> >> >
> >> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default) by
> >> > adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I found
> >> > that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and reduced CPU
> >> > overhead. It looks like adma mode is working, but at every boot
> >> > I see one same error message in dmesg:
> >> >
> >> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> >> > action 0x0
> >> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> >> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> >> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
> >> > tag 16
> >> > [ 16.823530] res 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
> >> > Emask 0x1 (device error)
> >> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> >> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> >> >
> >> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not generated.
> >>
> >> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable
> >> APM power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely
> >> because it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure where that
> >> would be coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel doesn't issue
> >> that command itself. Something that's part of your distro
> >> perhaps?
> >>
> >> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either,
> >> though depending on where the command is coming from, maybe it's
> >> not being issued otherwise for some reason?
> >>
> >> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is that
> >> > command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with adma
> >> > mode on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any
> >> > problems (except that one error message).
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Pali Rohár
> >> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > now after long time I did more investigation and that error is
> > reported for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes from
> > udev script
> >
> > /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
> >
> > which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected
> > HDD.
> >
> > Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
> > /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
> >
> > And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
> >
> > hdparm is:
> > /dev/sda:
> > setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> > APM_level = not supported
> >
> > Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported)
> > and in non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands
> > should not be sent via ADMA?
> >
> > Here is another output:
> > $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> >
> > *Power Management feature set
> >
> > Power-Up In Standby feature set
> >
> > *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> > *Host-initiated interface power management
>
> The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
> current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these NVIDIA
> SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so it's
> possible there's an unknown issue there.
>
Maybe I should note that hdparm -I did not generated any error message.
I post is here because it show "Power Management feature set" is
supported by HDD. This indicate that HDD supports -B (APM) command,
right?
> The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition check
> for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in nv_adma_use_reg_mode in
> drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force it to disable ADMA for all
> non-data commands.
>
Ok, as now I have just SSH access to that machine, I will do kernel
patching later (when I have physical access to it).
> I really don't know why Ubuntu is disabling APM on all drives on
> bootup however. Especially for laptops, that seems like a silly thing
> to do explicitly. Sounds like one of the silly things Ubuntu is known
> to do without consulting people.
Looks like this comes from upstream udev/systemd project :-( Anyway, for
laptops on battery ubuntu has another set of scripts which turn on APM
(based on connected/disconnected AC adapter).
That udev script which turn off APM is called when any disk is attached
to system (so at boot time it is called for every one disk).
Now I just masked that udev script and it is no longer called...
Anyway if I call hdparm -B /dev/sda I get output:
APM_level
Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
>> >
>> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
>> > Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
>> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
>> > Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
>> >
>> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default) by
>> > adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I found
>> > that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and reduced CPU
>> > overhead. It looks like adma mode is working, but at every boot I
>> > see one same error message in dmesg:
>> >
>> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
>> > action 0x0
>> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
>> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
>> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
>> > tag 16
>> > [ 16.823530] res 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
>> > Emask 0x1 (device error)
>> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
>> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
>> >
>> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not generated.
>>
>> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable APM
>> power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely because
>> it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure where that would be
>> coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel doesn't issue that command
>> itself. Something that's part of your distro perhaps?
>>
>> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either, though
>> depending on where the command is coming from, maybe it's not being
>> issued otherwise for some reason?
>>
>> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is that
>> > command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with adma mode
>> > on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any problems
>> > (except that one error message).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Pali Rohár
>> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
>
> Hello,
>
> now after long time I did more investigation and that error is reported
> for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes from udev script
>
> /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
>
> which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected HDD.
>
> Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
>
> /sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
>
> And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
> hdparm is:
>
> /dev/sda:
> setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
> APM_level = not supported
>
> Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported) and in
> non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands should not be
> sent via ADMA?
>
> Here is another output:
>
> $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
> *Power Management feature set
> Power-Up In Standby feature set
> *SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
> *Host-initiated interface power management
The "set features" command is a non-data command so based on our
current knowledge, it should work in ADMA mode. However, these NVIDIA
SATAs are black boxes, and rather buggy ones at that, so it's possible
there's an unknown issue there.
The easiest way to test that would be to take out the condition check
for qc->tf.protocol == ATA_PROT_NODATA in nv_adma_use_reg_mode in
drivers/ata/sata_nv.c. That would force it to disable ADMA for all
non-data commands.
I really don't know why Ubuntu is disabling APM on all drives on
bootup however. Especially for laptops, that seems like a silly thing
to do explicitly. Sounds like one of the silly things Ubuntu is known
to do without consulting people.
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Re: linux: sata_nv: adma support
On Thursday 25 December 2014 07:22:13 Robert Hancock wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Pali Rohár
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have nvidia nforce4 motherboard with nvidia sata controller:
> >
> > 00:07.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
> > Controller [10de:0054] (rev f3)
> > 00:08.0 IDE interface [0101]: NVIDIA Corporation CK804 Serial ATA
> > Controller [10de:0055] (rev f3)
> >
> > I manually enabled adma mode (which is disabled by default) by
> > adding sata_nv.adma=1 to grub cmdline. In git history I found
> > that enabling adma mode includes NCQ support and reduced CPU
> > overhead. It looks like adma mode is working, but at every boot I
> > see one same error message in dmesg:
> >
> > [ 16.823514] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x1 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > action 0x0
> > [ 16.823520] ata1.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> > [ 16.823524] ata1.00: failed command: SET FEATURES
> > [ 16.823530] ata1.00: cmd ef/05:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
> > tag 16
> > [ 16.823530] res 51/04:fe:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/40
> > Emask 0x1 (device error)
> > [ 16.823533] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> > [ 16.823535] ata1.00: error: { ABRT }
> >
> > When adma is disabled then this error message is not generated.
>
> It looks like something is trying to issue a command to disable APM
> power management on the drive, and the command fails (likely because
> it doesn't support that command). I'm not sure where that would be
> coming from - I'm pretty sure the kernel doesn't issue that command
> itself. Something that's part of your distro perhaps?
>
> I don't know why it would only be failing in ADMA mode either, though
> depending on where the command is coming from, maybe it's not being
> issued otherwise for some reason?
>
> > What does that error message means? It is critical? What is that
> > command SET FEATURES doing? Are there any problems with adma mode
> > on nforce4 motherboards? Because I did not see any problems
> > (except that one error message).
> >
> > --
> > Pali Rohár
> > pali.ro...@gmail.com
Hello,
now after long time I did more investigation and that error is reported
for every connected HDD. I identified that it comes from udev script
/lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
which just call script /lib/udev/hdparm for every one connected HDD.
Script /lib/udev/hdparm just call:
/sbin/hdparm -B254 $DRIVE
And that -B254 cause above error message in dmesg log. Output from
hdparm is:
/dev/sda:
setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
APM_level = not supported
Any idea why in ADMA mode it cause above error (APM unsupported) and in
non ADMA mode it is working fine? Maybe APM ATA commands should not be
sent via ADMA?
Here is another output:
$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i power
*Power Management feature set
Power-Up In Standby feature set
*SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
*Host-initiated interface power management
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Pali Rohár
pali.ro...@gmail.com
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