Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-25 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:19:02 +0400
Michael Tokarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
> > 
> >> use run-init from klibc?
> >  
> > Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)
> 
> By the way, busybox now includes similar applet,
> named switch_root.
> 
> /mjt

yeah, i saw it yesterday after a while. Anyway the problem got a solution,
everything seems to work just fine.

Regards
S.
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Tokarev
Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
> 
>> use run-init from klibc?
>  
> Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)

By the way, busybox now includes similar applet,
named switch_root.

/mjt
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Tokarev
Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
 
 use run-init from klibc?
  
 Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)

By the way, busybox now includes similar applet,
named switch_root.

/mjt
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-25 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:19:02 +0400
Michael Tokarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
  
  use run-init from klibc?
   
  Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)
 
 By the way, busybox now includes similar applet,
 named switch_root.
 
 /mjt

yeah, i saw it yesterday after a while. Anyway the problem got a solution,
everything seems to work just fine.

Regards
S.
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
So i choice to use switch_root which is already inside the busybox but with a
bit(?) of unluck cause it still wont run.

It hangs on !S_ISREG(st1.st_mode)

Can you explain to me how to interpret it?

Regards
S.
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Arnd Hannemann wrote:
> Jan Engelhardt schrieb:
>> On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
>>> i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. 
>>> While
>>> i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
>>> Pivot_root . old-root return to me an "Invalid argument" error and googling 
>>> i
>>> found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be 
>>> avoided.
>>> I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?
>> use run-init from klibc?
> 
> However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
> It only works for direct childs of root directory
> /mnt/newroot won't work
> /newroot should work ;-)
> 

Hm, that should probably be fixed.  It should be able to work on any
directory as long as there isn't another *filesystem* involved...

-hpa
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Kyle Moffett

On Jun 24, 2007, at 17:27:34, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb  
stick. While i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using  
pivot_root.  Pivot_root . old-root return to me an "Invalid  
argument" error and googling i found here http://lkml.org/lkml/ 
2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be avoided.  I want to ask now  
what i should do to switch to a real root?


One interesting fact about the mount() syscall is this: when  
overmounting a directory tree, a process whose current working  
directory is within said directory tree will see the old vfsmounts  
until it does an absolute chdir().  Shells tend not to be terribly  
useful for this because they use absolute paths more than necessary,  
but I think you can make it work.  For instance, if you run these  
commands after mounting the root filesystem:


mount -t proc proc /realroot/proc
cd /
mount --move /realroot /
find /proc/$$/cwd/ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -print0 \
| xargs -0 rm -rf -- '{}' ';'
cd /

This will set up proc on the new root filesystem, move /realroot to  
the root directory, and delete the contents of the old initramfs  
using the old current-working-directory link of your shell.  The  
amusing thing is that you are using the "find" and "rm" commands from  
the newly mounted root filesystem to remove the contents of the  
completely hidden initramfs.  The only reason it's actually possible  
is because you have the tenuous thread of the working directory.


Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:39:25 +0200
Arnd Hannemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> use run-init from klibc?
 
> However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
> It only works for direct childs of root directory
> /mnt/newroot won't work
> /newroot should work ;-)
> 
> Good luck,
> Arnd

Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)
Nice to know about the child limitation but i just have to find klibc-utils
inside buildroot or busybox if even exists:)

Regards
S.
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Arnd Hannemann
Jan Engelhardt schrieb:
> On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
>> i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. 
>> While
>> i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
>> Pivot_root . old-root return to me an "Invalid argument" error and googling i
>> found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be 
>> avoided.
>> I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?
> 
> use run-init from klibc?

However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
It only works for direct childs of root directory
/mnt/newroot won't work
/newroot should work ;-)

Good luck,
Arnd
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
>
>i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. While
>i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
>Pivot_root . old-root return to me an "Invalid argument" error and googling i
>found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be avoided.
>I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?

use run-init from klibc?


Jan
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:

i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. While
i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
Pivot_root . old-root return to me an Invalid argument error and googling i
found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be avoided.
I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?

use run-init from klibc?


Jan
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Arnd Hannemann
Jan Engelhardt schrieb:
 On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
 i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. 
 While
 i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
 Pivot_root . old-root return to me an Invalid argument error and googling i
 found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be 
 avoided.
 I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?
 
 use run-init from klibc?

However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
It only works for direct childs of root directory
/mnt/newroot won't work
/newroot should work ;-)

Good luck,
Arnd
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:39:25 +0200
Arnd Hannemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 use run-init from klibc?
 
 However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
 It only works for direct childs of root directory
 /mnt/newroot won't work
 /newroot should work ;-)
 
 Good luck,
 Arnd

Thank you both, i'll take a look at run-init:)
Nice to know about the child limitation but i just have to find klibc-utils
inside buildroot or busybox if even exists:)

Regards
S.
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Kyle Moffett

On Jun 24, 2007, at 17:27:34, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb  
stick. While i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using  
pivot_root.  Pivot_root . old-root return to me an Invalid  
argument error and googling i found here http://lkml.org/lkml/ 
2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be avoided.  I want to ask now  
what i should do to switch to a real root?


One interesting fact about the mount() syscall is this: when  
overmounting a directory tree, a process whose current working  
directory is within said directory tree will see the old vfsmounts  
until it does an absolute chdir().  Shells tend not to be terribly  
useful for this because they use absolute paths more than necessary,  
but I think you can make it work.  For instance, if you run these  
commands after mounting the root filesystem:


mount -t proc proc /realroot/proc
cd /
mount --move /realroot /
find /proc/$$/cwd/ -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -print0 \
| xargs -0 rm -rf -- '{}' ';'
cd /

This will set up proc on the new root filesystem, move /realroot to  
the root directory, and delete the contents of the old initramfs  
using the old current-working-directory link of your shell.  The  
amusing thing is that you are using the find and rm commands from  
the newly mounted root filesystem to remove the contents of the  
completely hidden initramfs.  The only reason it's actually possible  
is because you have the tenuous thread of the working directory.


Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Arnd Hannemann wrote:
 Jan Engelhardt schrieb:
 On Jun 24 2007 23:27, Salvatore De Paolis wrote:
 i built the kernel with a busybox initramfs which runs from a usb stick. 
 While
 i boot i need to mount the real root and i'm using pivot_root.
 Pivot_root . old-root return to me an Invalid argument error and googling 
 i
 found here http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/8/17 that pivot_root should be 
 avoided.
 I want to ask now what i should do to switch to a real root?
 use run-init from klibc?
 
 However be aware of the limitation of run-init:
 It only works for direct childs of root directory
 /mnt/newroot won't work
 /newroot should work ;-)
 

Hm, that should probably be fixed.  It should be able to work on any
directory as long as there isn't another *filesystem* involved...

-hpa
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Re: pivot_root alternative

2007-06-24 Thread Salvatore De Paolis
So i choice to use switch_root which is already inside the busybox but with a
bit(?) of unluck cause it still wont run.

It hangs on !S_ISREG(st1.st_mode)

Can you explain to me how to interpret it?

Regards
S.
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