Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-27 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
> > year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
> > binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
> 
> I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
> which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
> vdso.sos.
> 
> sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
> binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
> work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
> but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso
> 
> Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
> to succeed now when it should fail.
> 
> It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
> really not work.

Hi Andi.
I never got around to do any exhaustive check on as-instr.
I assume it was the .cfi_rel_offset thing that caused you to
assume as-instr was failing?
If not let me know if your request is still valid.

And sorry for being late on this. Busy and had forgotten this mail.

Sam
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Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-27 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
  year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
  binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
 
 I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
 which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
 vdso.sos.
 
 sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
 binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
 work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
 but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso
 
 Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
 to succeed now when it should fail.
 
 It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
 really not work.

Hi Andi.
I never got around to do any exhaustive check on as-instr.
I assume it was the .cfi_rel_offset thing that caused you to
assume as-instr was failing?
If not let me know if your request is still valid.

And sorry for being late on this. Busy and had forgotten this mail.

Sam
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Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:54:10AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
> > > year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
> > > binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
> > 
> > I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 
> > (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
> > which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
> > vdso.sos.
> 
> OK sorry, then I misunderstood it and missing -Wl,-z,max-page-size=4096 
> -Wl,-z,common-page-size=4096 support is not the problem.

It might be. The change to default to 1MB pages happened 
some time ago and then the common-page-size options were
added some time after that.

I expect you'll get the obscenly large 1MB vdso if your
binutils happens to fall inside that time window, but before or 
after should be ok.

I haven't tested it, but in theory a 1MB vdso should
work (just waste a lot of memory and probably some CPU time)

I was pondering to add a build time test for this and fail
(not sure it's worth it)

But the header offset problem that actually broke
the compilation seemed to be something else, probably
some sort of bug.

> > sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
> > binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr 
> > doesn't 
> > work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
> > but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso
> 
> We had several reports of 2.12* not working (AFAIR also on i386), so 
> that's not a surprise.

Ah I didn't see those. I should test it more often perhaps.

I'll take a detailed look later, perhaps it's easy to fix.

> > Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
> > to succeed now when it should fail.
> > 
> > It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
> > really not work.
> 
> If Andre is working under Debian 3.1 (as his gcc version indicates) he's 
> using 2.15, and together with your SLES9 test it seems the border is 
> somewhere between 2.15 and 2.16.

Could someone confirm? Then it could be documented.

-Andi
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Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
> > year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
> > binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
> 
> I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
> which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
> vdso.sos.

OK sorry, then I misunderstood it and missing -Wl,-z,max-page-size=4096 
-Wl,-z,common-page-size=4096 support is not the problem.

> sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
> binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
> work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
> but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso

We had several reports of 2.12* not working (AFAIR also on i386), so 
that's not a surprise.

> Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
> to succeed now when it should fail.
> 
> It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
> really not work.

If Andre is working under Debian 3.1 (as his gcc version indicates) he's 
using 2.15, and together with your SLES9 test it seems the border is 
somewhere between 2.15 and 2.16.

> -Andi

cu
Adrian

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binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
> year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
> binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).

I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
vdso.sos.

sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso

Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
to succeed now when it should fail.

It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
really not work.

-Andi
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binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
 year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
 binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).

I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
vdso.sos.

sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso

Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
to succeed now when it should fail.

It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
really not work.

-Andi
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Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
  Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
  year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
  binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
 
 I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
 which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
 vdso.sos.

OK sorry, then I misunderstood it and missing -Wl,-z,max-page-size=4096 
-Wl,-z,common-page-size=4096 support is not the problem.

 sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
 binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr doesn't 
 work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
 but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso

We had several reports of 2.12* not working (AFAIR also on i386), so 
that's not a surprise.

 Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
 to succeed now when it should fail.
 
 It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
 really not work.

If Andre is working under Debian 3.1 (as his gcc version indicates) he's 
using 2.15, and together with your SLES9 test it seems the border is 
somewhere between 2.15 and 2.16.

 -Andi

cu
Adrian

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of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   Only a promise, Lao Er said.
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Re: binutils trouble was Re: [1/2] 2.6.23-rc3: known regressions with patches

2007-08-13 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:54:10AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 12:42:05AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 11:29:47PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
   Debian 4.0 has older ones, and all distributions released more than a 
   year ago for sure also have older ones (the required patch went into 
   binutils CVS on 2006-05-30 and 2.17.50.0.3 was released on 2006-07-15).
  
  I have no problem on SUSE 10.0 (2.16.91.0.2-8) or SLES9 
  (2.15.90.0.1.1-32.10) 
  which are both far older than a year.  Both produce good looking
  vdso.sos.
 
 OK sorry, then I misunderstood it and missing -Wl,-z,max-page-size=4096 
 -Wl,-z,common-page-size=4096 support is not the problem.

It might be. The change to default to 1MB pages happened 
some time ago and then the common-page-size options were
added some time after that.

I expect you'll get the obscenly large 1MB vdso if your
binutils happens to fall inside that time window, but before or 
after should be ok.

I haven't tested it, but in theory a 1MB vdso should
work (just waste a lot of memory and probably some CPU time)

I was pondering to add a build time test for this and fail
(not sure it's worth it)

But the header offset problem that actually broke
the compilation seemed to be something else, probably
some sort of bug.

  sles8 (2.12.90.0.15; it was really one of the first production
  binutils for x86-64) doesn't work out of the box (looks like as-instr 
  doesn't 
  work anymore and it has another assembler issue I'll fix) 
  but with that workarounded it also builds a reasonble looking vdso
 
 We had several reports of 2.12* not working (AFAIR also on i386), so 
 that's not a surprise.

Ah I didn't see those. I should test it more often perhaps.

I'll take a detailed look later, perhaps it's easy to fix.

  Sam, can you please take a look at the as-instr issue? It seems
  to succeed now when it should fail.
  
  It would be useful if someone could find out which binutils versions
  really not work.
 
 If Andre is working under Debian 3.1 (as his gcc version indicates) he's 
 using 2.15, and together with your SLES9 test it seems the border is 
 somewhere between 2.15 and 2.16.

Could someone confirm? Then it could be documented.

-Andi
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