Re: What ever happened to standardizing signal level?
Pot, meet kettle... That's a bit rich accusing others of flaming when you've been exposing the entire list to your rants, ever heard of emailing users directly? You really think this list is you personal support mail-list don't you. On 7/06/10 8:12 AM, Lars Schotte wrote: stop flaming all the time, there are ppl out there like me who have some problems w/ their HW, and you are arguing here about nothing. On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:01:22 +0200 hermann pittonhermann-pit...@arcor.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 03.06.2010, 22:18 -0700 schrieb VDR User: hermann pittonhermann-pit...@arcor.de, you are contributing absolutely nothing to this thread aside of annoying people with your by trolling and half incoherent nonsense. It's quite ironic you suggest _I_ am the one trolling when this is a thread _I_ created. And further, several people have posted legitimate responses to -- clearly you are the only one suffering from your delusion. Dream on. The question never was, if you are trolling from time to time, but only if you are a duplicate of another troll or on your own. I have talked with Mauro about that and since then I ask you to provide your full name or point at least to a patch from you, where you have to agree to provide your real name in your SOB line. There was none and you also did not point to somebody else, to confirm for us, that you are known and on kernel development not only as a troll. You did not give an sufficient answer during the last two years. Additionally you've been stalking me in email as well. Your behavior is not only uncalled for, it's abusive of both this mailing list and the people willingly participating in the discussion. As I understand it, this is not the first time you've been the source of harassment. The opposite again is true, you stalked me by private e-mail and therefor my reply went as copy also to Mauro and Manu. If even Manu does not have your contact data, who else? Please provide them at least to him or someone else you trust and you are free for rants, within limitations. Do us all a favor -- go find some other thread to infect with your childishness, find some other user(s) to harass/stalk/obsess over, or simply grow up and stop wasting everyone's time. In case you haven't noticed there has been absolutely nobody supporting your rants. Take a hint. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/People_behind_V4L-DVB I did not put myself on this list and you should take me a little more serious when asking you to fulfill the minimum requirements for participating in kernel development. Also, if you further associate me with illegal drugs, I give you a 100% guarantee, that this will become _very_ expensive for you. You also won't make the vine sour I have after working on my linux hobby. Now, after wasting my time looking at it, I can see you have a first alsa patch in 2.6.33 with an invalid SOB, since only Derek, but corrected to Derek Kelly in 2.6.34. Missing is still, if you are working as a Hobbyist or if you are paid for your work. Greg might ask you such soon or did already. If your name is true, you could have saved yourself and all others most of all the trouble. Looking at your methods, my doubts are not gone, but I let it to others now. Hermann -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
is the list down?
just a test, not getting anything -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: is the list down?
nope got that, but not getting other people's emails. weird. On 3/06/10 3:07 AM, Jed wrote: just a test, not getting anything -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: is the list down?
LOL, nice one smart-arse! ;) I had successfully subscribed about an hour before enquiring. Perhaps t'was just a lull in the list. On 3/06/10 1:41 PM, CityK wrote: Jed wrote: nope got that, but not getting other people's emails. weird. Maybe its amnesia? http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg19011.html I'm unsubscribing from this list... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-C is far too expensive. If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! I don't have an overview over USB tuners. We have USB DVB-C/T hybrid devices which are supported with Linux. http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html (the driver is mostly independent from Linux Kernels). Aside of that we just made it work on a Dreambox 800 (300 Mhz MIPS as well, and looking forward to support other platforms as well). http://sundtek.com/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Digital-Home-DVB-CT.html Best Regards, Markus Thanks but I'd prefer PCI/e form-factor... If there's something fw or usb-based x2, squeezed into that form-factor, I'm very interested! I may only have room for 1x pci/e dvb-c card (hopefully one that has two single fw tuners mounted). So I may still look at USB based tuners like yours... There are also MiniPCIe USB DVB-C/T solutions available, although we have only seen single PCIe - MiniPCIe solutions yet (and those required an additional internal USB connection for the USB part) Another option might be a PCI/PCIe USB Bridge + USB DVB-C, we tested 3x USB DVB-C devices with a notebook at the same time (maybe 4 are possible, our test PC only had 3x USB Slots back then). Not sure what you mean, I don't suppose you could clarify? You mean I might be able to buy 2x mini-PCIe cards that can be mounted onto a PCIe - USB bridge then that card (bridge) will have two usb cables that need to be connected to 2 USB headers on the motherboard? If yes, that'd be fairly pricey wouldn't it? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! We have USB DVB-C/T hybrid devices which are supported with Linux. http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html (the driver is mostly independent from Linux Kernels). Aside of that we just made it work on a Dreambox 800 (300 Mhz MIPS as well, and looking forward to support other platforms as well). http://sundtek.com/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Digital-Home-DVB-CT.html Best Regards, Markus Thanks but I'd prefer PCI/e form-factor... If there's something fw or usb-based x2, squeezed into that form-factor, I'm very interested! I may only have room for 1x pci/e dvb-c card (hopefully one that has two single fw tuners mounted). So I may still look at USB based tuners like yours... There are also MiniPCIe USB DVB-C/T solutions available, although we have only seen single PCIe - MiniPCIe solutions yet (and those required an additional internal USB connection for the USB part) Another option might be a PCI/PCIe USB Bridge + USB DVB-C, we tested 3x USB DVB-C devices with a notebook at the same time (maybe 4 are possible, our test PC only had 3x USB Slots back then). Not sure what you mean, I don't suppose you could clarify? You mean I might be able to buy 2x mini-PCIe cards that can be mounted onto a PCIe - USB bridge then that card (bridge) will have two usb cables that need to be connected to 2 USB headers on the motherboard? If yes, that'd be fairly pricey wouldn't it? I'm only writing about the technical possibilities. Personally I prefer the USB Dongles, since they are flexible. Once you leave your home you can just unplug the DVB-C tuner connect it to a notebook/netbook and use it for FM, analog TV or DVB-T. Markus Oh, so you're not aware of anything like that, which is purchasable? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! We have USB DVB-C/T hybrid devices which are supported with Linux. http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html (the driver is mostly independent from Linux Kernels). Aside of that we just made it work on a Dreambox 800 (300 Mhz MIPS as well, and looking forward to support other platforms as well). http://sundtek.com/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Digital-Home-DVB-CT.html Best Regards, Markus Thanks but I'd prefer PCI/e form-factor... If there's something fw or usb-based x2, squeezed into that form-factor, I'm very interested! I may only have room for 1x pci/e dvb-c card (hopefully one that has two single fw tuners mounted). So I may still look at USB based tuners like yours... There are also MiniPCIe USB DVB-C/T solutions available, although we have only seen single PCIe - MiniPCIe solutions yet (and those required an additional internal USB connection for the USB part) Another option might be a PCI/PCIe USB Bridge + USB DVB-C, we tested 3x USB DVB-C devices with a notebook at the same time (maybe 4 are possible, our test PC only had 3x USB Slots back then). Not sure what you mean, I don't suppose you could clarify? You mean I might be able to buy 2x mini-PCIe cards that can be mounted onto a PCIe - USB bridge then that card (bridge) will have two usb cables that need to be connected to 2 USB headers on the motherboard? If yes, that'd be fairly pricey wouldn't it? I'm only writing about the technical possibilities. Personally I prefer the USB Dongles, since they are flexible. Once you leave your home you can just unplug the DVB-C tuner connect it to a notebook/netbook and use it for FM, analog TV or DVB-T. Markus Oh, so you're not aware of anything like that, which is purchasable? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! We have USB DVB-C/T hybrid devices which are supported with Linux. http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html (the driver is mostly independent from Linux Kernels). Aside of that we just made it work on a Dreambox 800 (300 Mhz MIPS as well, and looking forward to support other platforms as well). http://sundtek.com/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Digital-Home-DVB-CT.html Best Regards, Markus Thanks but I'd prefer PCI/e form-factor... If there's something fw or usb-based x2, squeezed into that form-factor, I'm very interested! I may only have room for 1x pci/e dvb-c card (hopefully one that has two single fw tuners mounted). So I may still look at USB based tuners like yours... There are also MiniPCIe USB DVB-C/T solutions available, although we have only seen single PCIe - MiniPCIe solutions yet (and those required an additional internal USB connection for the USB part) Another option might be a PCI/PCIe USB Bridge + USB DVB-C, we tested 3x USB DVB-C devices with a notebook at the same time (maybe 4 are possible, our test PC only had 3x USB Slots back then). Not sure what you mean, I don't suppose you could clarify? You mean I might be able to buy 2x mini-PCIe cards that can be mounted onto a PCIe - USB bridge then that card (bridge) will have two usb cables that need to be connected to 2 USB headers on the motherboard? If yes, that'd be fairly pricey wouldn't it? I'm only writing about the technical possibilities. Personally I prefer the USB Dongles, since they are flexible. Once you leave your home you can just unplug the DVB-C tuner connect it to a notebook/netbook and use it for FM, analog TV or DVB-T. Markus Oh, so you're not aware of anything like that, which is purchasable? I am not aware of any dual dvb-c PCI/PCIe only device. Righto thanks, I'm unsubscribing from this list... If anyone contributes to this thread, please CC me I'll rejoin. All the best everyone! Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
3rd times a charm? If not I'll leave it rest :( On 22/05/10, Jed wrote: Hi All, I put this one out there 3-weeks ago Just putting it out one last time to hear other peoples thoughts. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a decent PCI/e DVB-C tuner? Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-C is far too expensive. I guess that's the reality of the market right now?.. I'm subscribed to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. This stuff I can mostly work out for myself... But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. It may be soon though, thanks to the FTA our former Prime Minister established with the U.S. All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-Cis far too expensive. If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! I don't have an overview over USB tuners. We have USB DVB-C/T hybrid devices which are supported with Linux. http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html (the driver is mostly independent from Linux Kernels). Aside of that we just made it work on a Dreambox 800 (300 Mhz MIPS as well, and looking forward to support other platforms as well). http://sundtek.com/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Digital-Home-DVB-CT.html Best Regards, Markus Thanks but I'd prefer PCI/e form-factor... If there's something fw or usb-based x2, squeezed into that form-factor, I'm very interested! Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
Thanks for offering your thoughts Stefan. Any specific recommendations? Ideally I want two or more dvb-c tuners in a pci/e form-factor. If there's FW or USB tuners that are mounted onto a PCI/e card, work well in Linux, are relatively cheap, then I'd love to know! Thanks, Jed On 24/05/10 4:18 AM, Stefan Richter wrote: Jed wrote: Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-C is far too expensive. If you need two receivers but can only spare up to one PCI or PCIe slot, why not use two USB or FireWire attached receivers? FireWire ones seem to be out of production now though and weren't exactly on the cheap side. OTOH one can drive up to 3 DVB FireWire receivers on a single FireWire bus; and for those who need even more there are dual link FireWire PCI and PCIe cards readily available. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
Anyone? Thank-you! On 22/05/10, Jed wrote: Hi All, I put this one out there 3-weeks ago Just putting it out one last time to hear other peoples thoughts. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a decent PCI/e DVB-C tuner? Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-C is far too expensive. I guess that's the reality of the market right now... I'm subscribed to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. This stuff I can mostly work out for myself... But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. It may be soon though, thanks to the FTA our former Prime Minister established with the U.S. All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
ideal DVB-C PCI/e card? [linux-media]
Hi All, I put this one out there 3-weeks ago Just putting it out one last time to hear other peoples thoughts. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a decent PCI/e DVB-C tuner? Ideally it'd be dual DVB-C, the only one I've found is more than dual DVB-C is far too expensive. I guess that's the reality of the market right now... I'm subscribed to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. This stuff I can mostly work out for myself... But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. It may be soon though, thanks to the FTA our former Prime Minister established with the U.S. All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
On 5/4/10 10:45 AM, Jed wrote: Oh wow I didn't know Hauppauge had released some new models above the 2200. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html Is this 4400 exactly the same as the HVR-2200, aside from the demodulator used for it's DVB-S/S2? I hope so, that way work being done on the 2200 can flow onto this! (cept for DVB-S/S2) It's completely different. Bummer!!! :( Why'd they have to go use a completely different architecture, lame. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
On 5/4/10 10:45 AM, Jed wrote: Oh wow I didn't know Hauppauge had released some new models above the 2200. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html Is this 4400 exactly the same as the HVR-2200, aside from the demodulator used for it's DVB-S/S2? I hope so, that way work being done on the 2200 can flow onto this! (cept for DVB-S/S2) It's completely different. Bummer!!! :( Why'd they have to go use a completely different architecture, lame. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
On 7/05/10 11:46 PM, Steven Toth wrote: Why'd they have to go use a completely different architecture, lame. It's just business, get used to it. If you don't like their stuff then buy a different product. Vote with your wallet. That's the power you have as a consumer. Just seems counter-intuitive to use an entirely diff. platform. From a business perspective -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: this is a test mail
Try sending via your ISP's SMTP host instead of Google's. I had issues with this list until I made the switch. On 7/05/10 12:51 AM, Ang Way Chuang wrote: Please ignore this email. why can't i get my email through linux media mailing list when i can receive it? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: this is a test mail
Anyone know why we're getting 2 emails every time one sends only to linux-media@vger.kernel.org ? It's a tincy bit irritating, not that I'm complaining ;) On 7/05/10 12:57 AM, Jed wrote: Try sending via your ISP's SMTP host instead of Google's. I had issues with this list until I made the switch. On 7/05/10 12:51 AM, Ang Way Chuang wrote: Please ignore this email. why can't i get my email through linux media mailing list when i can receive it? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
Oh wow I didn't know Haupauge had released some new models above the 2200. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html Is this 4400 exactly the same as the HVR-2200, aside from the demodulator used for it's DVB-S/S2? I hope so, that way work being done on the 2200 can flow onto this! (cept for DVB-S/S2) Cheers, Jed On 4/05/10 11:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Jan Möbiusjan_moeb...@web.de wrote: Hi, im trying to get a Hauppauge HVR-4400 working on a Debian squeeze. It seems to be unsopported yet. Is there any driver which i don't know about? There is no support currently for that card, and since it uses a demodulator for which there is not currently a driver, much more work will be required than simply adding a new board profile. Devin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
Oh wow I didn't know Hauppauge had released some new models above the 2200. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html Is this 4400 exactly the same as the HVR-2200, aside from the demodulator used for it's DVB-S/S2? I hope so, that way work being done on the 2200 can flow onto this! (cept for DVB-S/S2) Cheers, Jed On 4/05/10 11:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Jan Möbiusjan_moeb...@web.de wrote: Hi, im trying to get a Hauppauge HVR-4400 working on a Debian squeeze. It seems to be unsopported yet. Is there any driver which i don't know about? There is no support currently for that card, and since it uses a demodulator for which there is not currently a driver, much more work will be required than simply adding a new board profile. Devin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hauppauge HVR-4400
On 5/4/10 10:45 AM, Jed wrote: Oh wow I didn't know Hauppauge had released some new models above the 2200. http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html Is this 4400 exactly the same as the HVR-2200, aside from the demodulator used for it's DVB-S/S2? I hope so, that way work being done on the 2200 can flow onto this! (cept for DVB-S/S2) It's completely different. Bummer!!! :( Why'd they have to go use a completely different architecture, lame. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card?
Excellent response, thank-you for so much detail! I apologise for my anaemic response, but it is very late here now, that's my excuse anyway! ;) Just curious, why did you pick VDR over MythTV? I would rather use the later + OSCam (maybe) if feasible. Thanks again for the excellent feedback, it's heartening to know there's other videoguard2 users out there! Good-night. On 3/05/10 5:49 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote: [answering this in private since any details about softcams etc usually is unwanted on mailinglists] Jedjedi.the...@gmail.com writes: I was wondering if someone could recommend a decent DVB-C tuner card? Ideally it would be a dual DVB-C card, but I'm not sure they exist?! I've been looking for the same, but not been able to find one. The closest is the foilware from Netup, but it is probably going to be too expensive when/if it is available anyway. Nor does there seem to be any DVB-C PCIe cards or USB sticks with Linux support. There are rumours about working external USB boxes. I haven't verified those, as I didn't really want any external box adding to the cable mess... I have a subscription to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. I'm doing much of the same here, also using NDS/Videoguard2. Unless I've missed something, this excludes using any (official) hardware CAM so you don't have to worry about CI slots :-) I am using two budget cards (budget is a must, as they are the cards capable of delivering a full TS to the host): 1) TerraTec Cinergy C PCI: bj...@canardo:~$ lspci -vvnns 5:0 05:00.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Twinhan Technology Co. Ltd Mantis DTV PCI Bridge Controller [Ver 1.0] [1822:4e35] (rev 01) Subsystem: TERRATEC Electronic GmbH Device [153b:1178] Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=mediumTAbort-TAbort+MAbort-SERR-PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (2000ns min, 63750ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16 Region 0: Memory at fcfff000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Kernel driver in use: Mantis Kernel modules: mantis 2) Mystique CaBiX-C2 (available from www.dvbshop.net): bj...@canardo:~$ lspci -vvnns 5:1 05:01.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 [1131:7146] (rev 01) Subsystem: KNC One Device [1894:0022] Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=mediumTAbort-TAbort-MAbort-SERR-PERR- INTx- Latency: 64 (3750ns min, 9500ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17 Region 0: Memory at feaffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Kernel driver in use: budget_av Kernel modules: budget-av The TerraTec card is working very well, but requires the mantis driver which entered linux in 2.6.33. This means that there are few distributions providing it at the moment, as most of them are going for 2.6.32. The Mystique card also does it's job, but I have had a few problems with the driver when some other part of the system is failing (in my case, a SATA disk). The driver seems to be very fragile wrt timeouts, and is far too eager to fill the log with identical useless messages. I'm planning to fix this as soon as I get around to it, but... If I were to buy the cards a second time, then I think I would buy two Terratec cards. For smartcard reader I am using a simple and cheap reader from OmniKey: bj...@canardo:~$ lsusb -s 5:2 Bus 005 Device 002: ID 076b:3021 OmniKey AG CardMan 3121 I've also tested with another CCID USB reader, SCM SCR331, which also worked just fine. What you want to look for is a reader supported by libccid (apt-cache show libccid in Debian/Ubuntu will show you the list). You may also want to check out which voltages the readers support. Modern cards tend to lower their Vcc all the time, and there are a few stories of burnt cards (I assume that's because of running a 3.3 V card in a reader only capable of providing 5 V). This stuff I can mostly work out for myself. But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. That's the situation here in Norway as well, provided that you actually pay for the subscription. At least that's my interpretation of the legal status :-) When I started this project, I briefly tried sasc-ng. I did work OK but I disliked the need to use the dvbloopback module. Mostly a principle wrt out-of-tree drivers. But I would probably have continued to use it if I hadn't
Re: ideal DVB-C PCI/e card?
Oh and to clarify I am aware of this resource http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-C_Devices Just curious to hear peoples real world experiences. On 3/05/10 3:09 PM, Jed wrote: Hi All, I was wondering if someone could recommend a decent DVB-C tuner card? Ideally it would be a dual DVB-C card, but I'm not sure they exist?! I have a subscription to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. This stuff I can mostly work out for myself. But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. It may be soon though, thanks to the FTA our former Prime Minister established with the U.S. All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
ideal DVB-C PCI/e card?
Hi All, I was wondering if someone could recommend a decent DVB-C tuner card? Ideally it would be a dual DVB-C card, but I'm not sure they exist?! I have a subscription to a PayTV provider here in Australia that uses an encryption scheme called NDS or Videoguard2. So I'll also need the right card reader and combo of software in order to decrypt and then capture. This stuff I can mostly work out for myself. But if you have any knowledge or experience in that area, then I'd be most appreciative if you can share. As it definitely isn't for technical minnows! Oh and in case you're worried, doing this sort of thing is not -yet- illegal in Australia. It may be soon though, thanks to the FTA our former Prime Minister established with the U.S. All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
Judging by the silence I'm guessing that's a negative ;-) I actually had a closer read of this... http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1339 So even if I donated a card I guess that's not going to compensate you nearly enough to get analogue a/v-in at least partially working? So it seems I went for a bells whistles card which may never be fully supported. I seem to recall having the same experience with a prior card, I wonder if I'll ever learn! Are there any tuners with similar raw analogue capture/encoding abilities (ideally component-in) that you do support more completely or intend to? Or should I be looking at dedicated video capture devices for better linux-media support? Thank-you Jed wrote: By analogue side I mainly mean A/V-in Thank-you/Good night Jed wrote: Actually I'd be happy to donate... So long as I knew there'd be some progress on the analogue side. Already got the HVR-2200 for DVB. Jed wrote: Happy to do this, so long as I can get it back eventually? Steven Toth wrote: On 3/11/10 11:26 AM, Jed wrote: Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Highly likely the drivers will not support it. Each card has unique firmware identifiers that need to be added manually to the driver. If you'd like to provide me a card then I'd consider adding support. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
19/09/09 Jed wrote: 2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. Hi Steve, when you said this is not a feature Hauppauge supports. Did you mean it's not fully enabled physically in the PCB... Or is it just something they need to add support for in the driver? If the latter do you know if their policy has changed or is about to? No idea, I have no answer. Considering that in the specs for the reference card it was highlighted as part of the silicon... Wouldn't it be safe to assume that it's something that'd be unlocked by drivers? But if that were true, what is their motivation in not wanting to enable it? (assuming they still haven't) 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( Raw analog TV isn't a high priority feature on my mental check-list. Analog TV via the encoder is much more interesting and applicable to many people. Assuming that progress has been made on analogue to h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid via the A/V-in encoder. Is this still considered a low priority? Raw analog is still very low down any list I have for the HVR22xx driver. Has progress been made on hw encode via A/V-in? I'm finally putting my entire system together soon, can't wait! Looking forward to seeing how everything has progressed. I'll be sure to do some donations once I'm up running! The current driver supports DTV only. I have no ETA for analog on the HVR22xx driver. If you need analog support then the HVR22xx isn't the right product for you. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
*woops* Just saw your status update from 24/01, sigh, doesn't sound good :( http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1339 19/09/09 Jed wrote: 2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. Hi Steve, when you said this is not a feature Hauppauge supports. Did you mean it's not fully enabled physically in the PCB... Or is it just something they need to add support for in the driver? If the latter do you know if their policy has changed or is about to? No idea, I have no answer. Considering that in the specs for the reference card it was highlighted as part of the silicon... Wouldn't it be safe to assume that it's something that'd be unlocked by drivers? But if that were true, what is their motivation in not wanting to enable it? (assuming they still haven't) 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( Raw analog TV isn't a high priority feature on my mental check-list. Analog TV via the encoder is much more interesting and applicable to many people. Assuming that progress has been made on analogue to h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid via the A/V-in encoder. Is this still considered a low priority? Raw analog is still very low down any list I have for the HVR22xx driver. Has progress been made on hw encode via A/V-in? I'm finally putting my entire system together soon, can't wait! Looking forward to seeing how everything has progressed. I'll be sure to do some donations once I'm up running! The current driver supports DTV only. I have no ETA for analog on the HVR22xx driver. If you need analog support then the HVR22xx isn't the right product for you. Regards, I don't need analogue for tuning purposes but for A/V-in it'd be mighty handy. If you've got anything that's very rough I'm happy to be your lab-rat? Do you know of any dual hybrid DVB-T tuner cards that do have functioning A/V-in, or should I forget such devices for that purpose? Thank-you. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
Happy to do this, so long as I can get it back eventually? Steven Toth wrote: On 3/11/10 11:26 AM, Jed wrote: Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Highly likely the drivers will not support it. Each card has unique firmware identifiers that need to be added manually to the driver. If you'd like to provide me a card then I'd consider adding support. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
Actually I'd be happy to donate... So long as I knew there'd be some progress on the analogue side. Already got the HVR-2200 for DVB. Jed wrote: Happy to do this, so long as I can get it back eventually? Steven Toth wrote: On 3/11/10 11:26 AM, Jed wrote: Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Highly likely the drivers will not support it. Each card has unique firmware identifiers that need to be added manually to the driver. If you'd like to provide me a card then I'd consider adding support. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
By analogue side I mainly mean A/V-in Thank-you/Good night Jed wrote: Actually I'd be happy to donate... So long as I knew there'd be some progress on the analogue side. Already got the HVR-2200 for DVB. Jed wrote: Happy to do this, so long as I can get it back eventually? Steven Toth wrote: On 3/11/10 11:26 AM, Jed wrote: Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Highly likely the drivers will not support it. Each card has unique firmware identifiers that need to be added manually to the driver. If you'd like to provide me a card then I'd consider adding support. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DNTV Dual Hybrid (7164) PCIe
Judging by the silence I'm guessing that's a negative ;-) I actually had a closer read of this... http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1339 So even if I donated a card I guess that's not going to compensate you nearly enough to get analogue a/v-in at least partially working?! So it seems I went for a bells whistles card which will probably never be fully supported. I seem to recall having the same experience with a prior card, I wonder if I'll ever learn! Are there any tuners with similar raw analogue capture/encoding abilities (ideally component) that you do support more completely or intend to? Or should I be looking at dedicated video capture devices for better linux-media support? Thank-you Jed wrote: By analogue side I mainly mean A/V-in Thank-you/Good night Jed wrote: Actually I'd be happy to donate... So long as I knew there'd be some progress on the analogue side. Already got the HVR-2200 for DVB. Jed wrote: Happy to do this, so long as I can get it back eventually? Steven Toth wrote: On 3/11/10 11:26 AM, Jed wrote: Hi Kernellabs, I'm thinking of getting this: http://forums.dvbowners.com/index.php?showtopic=11720 It seems very similar to the HVR-2200 yet has component-in. Do you reckon your module/s might support it? Thank-you! Highly likely the drivers will not support it. Each card has unique firmware identifiers that need to be added manually to the driver. If you'd like to provide me a card then I'd consider adding support. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
19/09/09 Jed wrote: 2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. Hi Steve, when you said this is not a feature Hauppauge supports. Did you mean it's not fully enabled physically in the PCB... Or is it just something they need to add support for in the driver? If the latter do you know if their policy has changed or is about to? 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( Raw analog TV isn't a high priority feature on my mental check-list. Analog TV via the encoder is much more interesting and applicable to many people. Assuming that progress has been made on analogue to h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid via the A/V-in encoder. Is this still considered a low priority? Has progress been made on hw encode via A/V-in? I'm finally putting my entire system together soon, can't wait! Looking forward to seeing how everything has progressed. I'll be sure to do some donations once I'm up running! -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
19/09/09 Jed wrote: 2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. Hi Steve, when you said this is not a feature Hauppauge supports. Did you mean it's not fully enabled physically in the PCB... Or is it just something they need to add support for in the driver? If the latter do you know if their policy has changed or is about to? 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( Raw analog TV isn't a high priority feature on my mental check-list. Analog TV via the encoder is much more interesting and applicable to many people. Assuming that progress has been made on analogue to h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid via the A/V-in encoder. Is this still considered a low priority? Has progress been made on hw encode via A/V-in? I'm finally putting my entire system together soon, can't wait! Looking forward to seeing how everything has progressed. I'll be sure to do some donations once I'm up running! -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
**a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in 2) Component input for the A/V-in 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) 5) If not then questions 1) 3) also apply to RF-in! Here are the reference cards spec sheets again: http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094357_75016126_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094364_75016126_P2/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094375_75016207_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094373_75016207_P2/ I would be proactive in providing feed-back (as needed) for the dev. of such features. Most Sincerely, Jed [Follow-up post] *Delivery issues resolved, although there's still delays of 7hrs or more being investigated with postmasters* Attention Kernellabs devs, I've deliberately delayed these two posts as Steve mentioned he wouldn't have time to respond for at least 1wk. It's now been almost two weeks, do you think you might have 5-minutes to spare now? I realise you might not know the answer to some of my questions yet!... :-D All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
**a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in 2) Component input for the A/V-in 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) 5) If not then questions 1) 3) also apply to RF-in! Here are the reference cards spec sheets again: http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094357_75016126_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094364_75016126_P2/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094375_75016207_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094373_75016207_P2/ I would be proactive in providing feed-back (as needed) for the dev. of such features. Most Sincerely, Jed [Follow-up post] *Delivery issues resolved, although there's still delays of 7hrs or more being investigated with postmasters* Attention Kernellabs devs, I've deliberately delayed these two posts as Steve mentioned he wouldn't have time to respond for at least 1wk. It's now been almost two weeks, do you think you might have 5-minutes to spare now? I realise you might not know the answer to some of my questions yet!... :-) All the best, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
**a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in 2) Component input for the A/V-in 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) 5) If not then questions 1) 3) also apply to RF-in! Here are the reference cards spec sheets again: http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094357_75016126_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094364_75016126_P2/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094375_75016207_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094373_75016207_P2/ I would be proactive in providing feed-back (as needed) for the dev. of such features. Most Sincerely, Jed [Follow-up post] *Delivery issues resolved, although there's still delays of 7hrs or more being investigated with postmasters* Attention Kernellabs devs, I've deliberately delayed these two posts as Steve mentioned he wouldn't have time to respond for at least 1wk. It's now been almost two weeks, do you think you might have 5-minutes to spare now? I realise you might not know the answer to some of my questions yet!... :-) All the best, Jed woops sorry, double post, well that was certainly very quick! No more issues with delays apparent... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
**a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... Hello. You're starting to see me as a nemesis now aren't you? I'm really a nice person, I promise! :-D I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in Yes, this exists in hardware on the SAA7164 and therefore the HVR2200 and HVR2250. Thank-you. 2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( The only reason I suggest this is because it'd be nice to have the option to offload encoding to some other device or to 'soft-encode'. Of course demand for such functionality would prolly be the lowest, so it's understandable if it's the last thing implemented, if at all. 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) Yes. Thank-you. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. So I garner from that, that you don't intend to add support for anything (including extra encoding abilities that they don't support in Windows) unless Hauppauge officially does? 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in No idea. Regardless of whether it does or does not I wouldn't plan to add basic raw TV support to the driver, without going through the encoder. Why do you rule it out unequivocally, is it just because I've annoyed you? :-( Raw analog TV isn't a high priority feature on my mental check-list. Analog TV via the encoder is much more interesting and applicable to many people. Fair-enough, thanks. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
2) Component input for the A/V-in Yes, this exists on the HVR2250 product only. Ah shite, are you sure? If you look at the specs for the reference card it was there, did they take it out at the last minute? It's not feature Hauppauge supports on the HVR2200 today. I have a suspicion this may change but I'm neither confirming, denying or announcing anything. It would make sense to officially support component cables on the HVR2200 since the silicon supports it. If/when it does I'm sure it will be mentioned in the forums or on the HVR2200 product packaging. So I garner from that, that you don't intend to add support for anything (including extra encoding abilities that they don't support in Windows) unless Hauppauge officially does? No, I was referring specifically to your component 'are you sure?' question. I've said many times on and off this mailing list that I'd like to add support for all of the encoder a/v codecs, regardless of the windows driver and it's capabilities. Timeframe for this is unknown. Okay thanks Steven for taking some time to address these Qns, I'm done. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
Jed wrote: **a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in 2) Component input for the A/V-in 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) 5) If not then questions 1) 3) also apply to RF-in! Here are the reference cards spec sheets again: http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094357_75016126_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094364_75016126_P2/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094375_75016207_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094373_75016207_P2/ I would be proactive in providing feed-back (as needed) for the dev. of such features. Most Sincerely, Jed Just a test feel free to ignore -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Hw capabilities of the HVR-2200
**a repost because of earlier issues in getting emails to the list** Hi Kernellabs or anyone involved with driver development of the HVR-2200... I know this is a lng way down the priority list of features to be added, if ever! But I'm wanting to know if the *possibility* is there 'hardware-wise' for the following: 1) h.263/mpeg4/VC-1/DivX/Xvid hardware encode of A/V-in 2) Component input for the A/V-in 3) Hw encode bypass for A/V-in 4) Is Hw encode purely for A/V-in? (hauppauge's site suggests otherwise but it may be a typo) 5) If not then questions 1) 3) also apply to RF-in! Here are the reference cards spec sheets again: http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094357_75016126_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094364_75016126_P2/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094375_75016207_P1/ http://www.picamatic.com/view/5094373_75016207_P2/ I would be proactive in providing feed-back (as needed) for the dev. of such features. Most Sincerely, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
Steven Toth wrote: On 9/8/09 4:04 PM, Jed wrote: Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. Jed wrote: I've stopped looking for an alternative card, going to have a crack at getting my 7162-based device working. Still, any suggestions in the meantime are most welcome! I've also decided AV-in isn't that important... So just a known, nicely working PCI/e + dual DVB-T card, having the other features is nice but they needn't be working yet. Wish me luck! :-D HVR2200 is in well supported now for digital-only. It is a dual tuner board using a PCI-E interface. It has A/V capabilities that are not *yet* supported in Linux. Don't know when A/V will be supported, but it will probably happen, eventually. It is a dual hybrid, and it does do hardware encode. (although not yet in Linux) This probably is the device for you. To follow the development more closely, see the blog on kernellabs.com I hope this helps. Regards, Mike Hi saa7164 devs, once(if) the software support is in place for A/V-in... Do you know if it'd be possible to bypass hw encode and dump uncompressed HD/SD with this card? Or is it limited hardware-wise to even do this? Cheers, Jed Hi, could I possibly get a response to this please? No idea, I have yet to look into this. All things considered I doubt it's worth spending time on raw analog when the goal for most people is to have the mpeg2/4/wmv hardware encoder working. Huh, but Hauppaguge site says hvr-2200 only does mpeg2 encode? My rationale was more flexibility by using software encode and free cpu cycles, I think it would be appealing to quite a few ;-) good night/morn -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. Jed wrote: I've stopped looking for an alternative card, going to have a crack at getting my 7162-based device working. Still, any suggestions in the meantime are most welcome! I've also decided AV-in isn't that important... So just a known, nicely working PCI/e + dual DVB-T card, having the other features is nice but they needn't be working yet. Wish me luck! :-D HVR2200 is in well supported now for digital-only. It is a dual tuner board using a PCI-E interface. It has A/V capabilities that are not *yet* supported in Linux. Don't know when A/V will be supported, but it will probably happen, eventually. It is a dual hybrid, and it does do hardware encode. (although not yet in Linux) This probably is the device for you. To follow the development more closely, see the blog on kernellabs.com I hope this helps. Regards, Mike Hi saa7164 devs, once(if) the software support is in place for A/V-in... Do you know if it'd be possible to bypass hw encode and dump uncompressed HD/SD with this card? Or is it limited hardware-wise to even do this? Cheers, Jed Hi, could I possibly get a response to this please? Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. Jed wrote: I've stopped looking for an alternative card, going to have a crack at getting my 7162-based device working. Still, any suggestions in the meantime are most welcome! I've also decided AV-in isn't that important... So just a known, nicely working PCI/e + dual DVB-T card, having the other features is nice but they needn't be working yet. Wish me luck! :-D HVR2200 is in well supported now for digital-only. It is a dual tuner board using a PCI-E interface. It has A/V capabilities that are not *yet* supported in Linux. Don't know when A/V will be supported, but it will probably happen, eventually. It is a dual hybrid, and it does do hardware encode. (although not yet in Linux) This probably is the device for you. To follow the development more closely, see the blog on kernellabs.com I hope this helps. Regards, Mike Hi saa7164 devs, once(if) the software support is in place for A/V-in... Do you know if it'd be possible to bypass hw encode and dump uncompressed HD/SD with this card? Or is it limited hardware-wise to even do this? Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
generic question
I installed _all_ dvb-v4l modules after compiling latest source because at the time I couldn't use make menuconfig (didn't have ncurses installed) Is there a way I can retrospectively remove some compiled/installed modules so that I'm only using the ones I need? I only need modules associated with: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: generic question
Actually I just realised... I think when the system reboots it will only load the modules it needs from /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media... It won't load everything in that directory into the kernel/memory right? So the only reason one might want to use make menuconfig; is to prevent irrelevant compiled modules ending up in... /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media Feel free to correct if this understanding is wrong. Cheers Jed wrote: I installed _all_ dvb-v4l modules after compiling latest source because at the time I couldn't use make menuconfig (didn't have ncurses installed) Is there a way I can retrospectively remove some compiled/installed modules so that I'm only using the ones I need? I only need modules associated with: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: generic question
The compile install completed without issue then I rebooted but j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ sudo lsmod Module Size Used by binfmt_misc18572 1 bridge 63776 0 stp11140 1 bridge bnep 22912 2 video 29204 0 output 11648 1 video input_polldev 12688 0 lp 19588 0 snd_hda_intel 557492 4 snd_pcm_oss52352 0 snd_mixer_oss 24960 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm99464 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_dummy 11524 0 snd_seq_oss41984 0 snd_seq_midi 15744 0 snd_rawmidi33920 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 16512 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq66272 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 34064 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq iTCO_wdt 21712 0 snd_seq_device 16276 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq pcspkr 11136 0 ppdev 16904 0 iTCO_vendor_support12420 1 iTCO_wdt snd78920 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 16800 1 snd snd_page_alloc 18704 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm parport_pc 45096 1 parport49584 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc usbhid 47040 0 intel_agp 39408 0 ohci1394 42164 0 ieee1394 108288 1 ohci1394 r8169 46596 0 mii14464 1 r8169 fbcon 49792 0 tileblit 11264 1 fbcon font 17024 1 fbcon bitblit14464 1 fbcon softcursor 10368 1 bitblit ...Where's the module I need? And this is all that's in /etc/modules... lp rtc udev has not created any devices nodes for DVB V4L: j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ ls -l /dev/dvb ls: cannot access /dev/dvb: No such file or directory j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ ls -l /dev/v4l ls: cannot access /dev/v4l: No such file or directory I can't see anything relating to 7162 devices here: http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb?cmd=file;file=linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.tuner;filenode=-1;style=raw Perhaps the module for 7162 devices is not in the main source tree yet? Admittedly I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for! I've got a copy of various logs from /var/log, many extraneous, but just trying to cover all bases, lemme know I can send! Any advice/help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jed Jed wrote: Actually I just realised... I think when the system reboots it will only load the modules it needs from /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media... It won't load everything in that directory into the kernel/memory right? So the only reason one might want to use make menuconfig; is to prevent irrelevant compiled modules ending up in... /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media Feel free to correct if this understanding is wrong. Cheers Jed wrote: I installed _all_ dvb-v4l modules after compiling latest source because at the time I couldn't use make menuconfig (didn't have ncurses installed) Is there a way I can retrospectively remove some compiled/installed modules so that I'm only using the ones I need? I only need modules associated with: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: generic question
I think I know why this was not working... I was using main hg source tree instead of: http://www.jusst.de/hg/saa716x/ My bad, still quite a n00b I guess, but at least I'm learning! :-) I will take it from there Jed wrote: The compile install completed without issue then I rebooted but j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ sudo lsmod Module Size Used by binfmt_misc18572 1 bridge 63776 0 stp11140 1 bridge bnep 22912 2 video 29204 0 output 11648 1 video input_polldev 12688 0 lp 19588 0 snd_hda_intel 557492 4 snd_pcm_oss52352 0 snd_mixer_oss 24960 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm99464 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_dummy 11524 0 snd_seq_oss41984 0 snd_seq_midi 15744 0 snd_rawmidi33920 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 16512 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq66272 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 34064 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq iTCO_wdt 21712 0 snd_seq_device 16276 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq pcspkr 11136 0 ppdev 16904 0 iTCO_vendor_support12420 1 iTCO_wdt snd78920 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 16800 1 snd snd_page_alloc 18704 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm parport_pc 45096 1 parport49584 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc usbhid 47040 0 intel_agp 39408 0 ohci1394 42164 0 ieee1394 108288 1 ohci1394 r8169 46596 0 mii14464 1 r8169 fbcon 49792 0 tileblit 11264 1 fbcon font 17024 1 fbcon bitblit14464 1 fbcon softcursor 10368 1 bitblit ...Where's the module I need? And this is all that's in /etc/modules... lp rtc udev has not created any devices nodes for DVB V4L: j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ ls -l /dev/dvb ls: cannot access /dev/dvb: No such file or directory j...@jed-desktop:/var/log$ ls -l /dev/v4l ls: cannot access /dev/v4l: No such file or directory I can't see anything relating to 7162 devices here: http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb?cmd=file;file=linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.tuner;filenode=-1;style=raw Perhaps the module for 7162 devices is not in the main source tree yet? Admittedly I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for! I've got a copy of various logs from /var/log, many extraneous, but just trying to cover all bases, lemme know I can send! Any advice/help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jed Jed wrote: Actually I just realised... I think when the system reboots it will only load the modules it needs from /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media... It won't load everything in that directory into the kernel/memory right? So the only reason one might want to use make menuconfig; is to prevent irrelevant compiled modules ending up in... /lib/modules/[kernel version]/kernel/drivers/media Feel free to correct if this understanding is wrong. Cheers Jed wrote: I installed _all_ dvb-v4l modules after compiling latest source because at the time I couldn't use make menuconfig (didn't have ncurses installed) Is there a way I can retrospectively remove some compiled/installed modules so that I'm only using the ones I need? I only need modules associated with: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
will do, no longer looking atm, seeing if i can get my existing quattroS partially working http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards Lou Otway wrote: Jed wrote: I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D I've been searching for a PCI-e device with an MPEG-2 hardware encoder for analogue input for months, there's nothing on the market with linux support. There are a few h.264 encoders, mainly aimed at CCTV applications, but they're no good for me. Analogue encoding support on the HVR devices seems the only likely solution but it won't happen any time soon it seems. If you find anything, please post details! Thanks, Lou -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: SAA716x driver module
Please can I get a response from anyone on this??? It looks like driver support for these devices is completed, not sure about AV-in If my suspicions are correct then it's just a matter of adding ones device to the driver list if it's not there. Cheers, Jed On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:26 AM, jedjedi.the...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please advise if the SAA716x driver module: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/NXP_SAA716x#Driver_Development Is now ready for SAA7162 devices: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices AFAIK Manu Abraham's driver is the most developed and it doesn't even tune yet. Actually this appears to suggest otherwise... http://jusst.de/hg/saa716x/ Can anybody comment? Manu preferably! :-D Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: SAA716x driver module
Not-to-worry... Eduard has explained how I can go about confirming this for myself. Jed wrote: Please can I get a response from anyone on this??? It looks like driver support for these devices is completed, not sure about AV-in If my suspicions are correct then it's just a matter of adding ones device to the driver list if it's not there. Cheers, Jed On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:26 AM, jedjedi.the...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please advise if the SAA716x driver module: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/NXP_SAA716x#Driver_Development Is now ready for SAA7162 devices: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices AFAIK Manu Abraham's driver is the most developed and it doesn't even tune yet. Actually this appears to suggest otherwise... http://jusst.de/hg/saa716x/ Can anybody comment? Manu preferably! :-D Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
I've stopped looking for an alternative card, going to have a crack at getting my 7162-based device working. Still, any suggestions in the meantime are most welcome! I've also decided AV-in isn't that important... So just a known, nicely working PCI/e + dual DVB-T card, having the other features is nice but they needn't be working yet. Wish me luck! :-D Jed wrote: Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: PCI/e with dual DVB-T + AV-in?
Hi Ya'll, Going on response levels thus far I'm not expecting much :-D but I was wondering if someone could possibly help me out here. Is there anything with half-decent driver support that is PCI/e, and has dual DVB-T + A/V-in?* As a bonus it would be dual Hybrid and have hardware encode, but I wouldn't expect either to work at this stage. I'm still trawling through mail-lists wiki's etc, so I may yet find the best solution, but I was hoping some might already know. Any advice or even just a response to chastise me is greatly appreciated! :-D Cheers, Jed *Is HVR-2200 the only option? I wish there was something with better AV-in but it might end-up being my final choice. Jed wrote: I've stopped looking for an alternative card, going to have a crack at getting my 7162-based device working. Still, any suggestions in the meantime are most welcome! I've also decided AV-in isn't that important... So just a known, nicely working PCI/e + dual DVB-T card, having the other features is nice but they needn't be working yet. Wish me luck! :-D HVR2200 is in well supported now for digital-only. It is a dual tuner board using a PCI-E interface. It has A/V capabilities that are not *yet* supported in Linux. Don't know when A/V will be supported, but it will probably happen, eventually. It is a dual hybrid, and it does do hardware encode. (although not yet in Linux) This probably is the device for you. To follow the development more closely, see the blog on kernellabs.com I hope this helps. Regards, Mike Thanks Michael for your efforts to make a suggestion! I know about this one and so far it looks to be the best candidate in-terms of overall features + support. Unless people on this list believe there's something that's _potentially_ better? Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: SAA716x driver module
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:26 AM, jedjedi.the...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please advise if the SAA716x driver module: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/NXP_SAA716x#Driver_Development Is now ready for SAA7162 devices: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices AFAIK Manu Abraham's driver is the most developed and it doesn't even tune yet. Actually this appears to suggest otherwise... http://jusst.de/hg/saa716x/ Can anybody comment? Manu preferably! :-D Cheers, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: hauppauge wintv hvr 2200 and transport stream
This card does: d+d _or_ d+a _or_ a+d _or_ a+a Where d = DVB-T a = PAL analogue transmission. I believe Steve Toth has gotten dual DVB-T (d+d) to work on this card: http://www.kernellabs.com I think all of those players you mention will playback the the TS stream once its dumped on your harddisk as its being dumped. Provided you have the right codecs/libraries in place, which most modern Linux distros already take care of. Cheers, Jed Marco Berizzi wrote: Hello everybody. I'm evaluating a dvb-t card for linux. I would like to know if with the above card is possible to save the entire mpeg transport stream. Also I don't unstand what does mean 'dual tuners'. Can I watch two different dvb-t channel? Or only one analog and one dvb-t? Or 2 dvb-t plus 2 analog? Any experience with this device? PS: Is possible to see with xine/vlc/mplayer a dvb-t/h264 stream with this card? TIA -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
SAA716x driver module
Can someone please advise if the SAA716x driver module: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/NXP_SAA716x#Driver_Development Is now ready for SAA7162 devices: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices I have the QuattroS: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa7162_devices#DNTV_PCI_Express_cards I'm very keen to commence testing and if I can be given advice on how to move forward, then I'll provide immediate/constant feed-back! What functionality is confirmed as working for the QuattroS or similar devices? Thank-you, Jed -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
