Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... * Do you think a compatibility mode (like module parameter) can be added to simulate the way the CAM is handled in the other drivers? Yes, this could be done: ++ The CI could be used with any application. -- The CI will be attached to one tuner exclusively. It is not very hard to implement this. Patches are welcome. ;-) CU Oliver -- VDR Remote Plugin 0.4.0: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/vdr/ 4 MByte Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-mem-mod/ Full-TS Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-full-ts-mod/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
RE: [DVB] Octopus driver status
-Original Message- From: linux-media-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-media- ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Endriss Sent: vendredi 24 juin 2011 11:52 To: Sébastien RAILLARD (COEXSI) Cc: Linux Media Mailing List Subject: Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/S hops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb- s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge- duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... Ok, thank you for the update. We will try some Octopus cards. * Do you think a compatibility mode (like module parameter) can be added to simulate the way the CAM is handled in the other drivers? Yes, this could be done: ++ The CI could be used with any application. -- The CI will be attached to one tuner exclusively. It is not very hard to implement this. Patches are welcome. ;-) Maybe I'll ask for advices!!! CU Oliver -- VDR Remote Plugin 0.4.0: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/vdr/ 4 MByte Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-mem-mod/ Full-TS Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-full-ts-mod/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
Em 24-06-2011 06:51, Oliver Endriss escreveu: Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... Hi Oliver, If it is ok for you, I have here a few devices with DRXK that I'm seeking for some time to work with. I'll probably have some time this weekend for them, so I can do the CodingStyle cleanups, if it is ok for you. Cheers, Mauro. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
On 24 June 2011 12:57, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em 24-06-2011 06:51, Oliver Endriss escreveu: Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... Hi Oliver, If it is ok for you, I have here a few devices with DRXK that I'm seeking for some time to work with. I'll probably have some time this weekend for them, so I can do the CodingStyle cleanups, if it is ok for you. Cheers, Mauro. -- Do you have a Terratec Cinergy 2400i? It belongs to the ngene family but has PLL tuners. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_2400i_DVB-T There are some drivers floating on the net that I have got to work in Ubuntu 8.04 but the current ngene drivers has moved on a long way and left it behind. Si. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
Em 24-06-2011 09:44, Simon Liddicott escreveu: On 24 June 2011 12:57, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com mailto:mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em 24-06-2011 06:51, Oliver Endriss escreveu: Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-f%C3%BCr-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... Hi Oliver, If it is ok for you, I have here a few devices with DRXK that I'm seeking for some time to work with. I'll probably have some time this weekend for them, so I can do the CodingStyle cleanups, if it is ok for you. Cheers, Mauro. -- Do you have a Terratec Cinergy 2400i? I don't have. I have a few Terratec DVB-C devices here with DRXK, using different bridge drivers. I started looking on them based on a released DRXK driver, but, as Oliver already had some work on the drxk driver, it is better to merge Oliver series first and then I start working on adding DRXK support to the other drivers, to avoid duplicated work at the DRXK drivers. It belongs to the ngene family but has PLL tuners. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_2400i_DVB-T There are some drivers floating on the net that I have got to work in Ubuntu 8.04 but the current ngene drivers has moved on a long way and left it behind. Si. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
Hi Mauro, On Friday 24 June 2011 13:57:16 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em 24-06-2011 06:51, Oliver Endriss escreveu: Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:31:08 Sébastien RAILLARD wrote: Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? The drivers work fine. I am not aware of any problems. All Digital Devices cards and tuner variants are supported by the driver http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/media_build_experimental ddbridge (Lattice bridge): - Octopus (all variants) - cineS2 v6 - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) ngene bridge: - cineS2 (v4,v5), Satix S2 Dual - PCIe bridge, mini PCIe bridge - DuoFlex S2 (stv0900 + stv6110 + lnbp21) - DuoFlex C/T (Micronas DRXK + NXP TDA18271C2) For a German description, see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board85-hdtv-dvb-s2/105803-aktuelle-treiber-für-octopus-ddbridge-cines2-ngene-ddbridge-duoflex-s2-duoflex-ct-sowie-tt-s2-6400 From an operational point of view, the driver is ready for the kernel. Unfortunately I did not have the time yet to clean up the coding-style. There are thousands of coding-style issues waiting to be fixed... Hi Oliver, If it is ok for you, I have here a few devices with DRXK that I'm seeking for some time to work with. I'll probably have some time this weekend for them, so I can do the CodingStyle cleanups, if it is ok for you. Just for the record: Ralph did most of the work. I just contributed some glue stuff. I'll check with Ralph, whether he has any updates pending. These should be applied before fixing the coding-style. If you could wait until next weekend, I could prepare a patch series, which you could start with. The current repository has some files at the wrong places, etc. CU Oliver -- VDR Remote Plugin 0.4.0: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/vdr/ 4 MByte Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-mem-mod/ Full-TS Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-full-ts-mod/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [DVB] Octopus driver status
On Friday 24 June 2011 14:44:50 Simon Liddicott wrote: Do you have a Terratec Cinergy 2400i? It belongs to the ngene family but has PLL tuners. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_2400i_DVB-T There are some drivers floating on the net that I have got to work in Ubuntu 8.04 but the current ngene drivers has moved on a long way and left it behind. Sorry, I do not have this device, and I have no plans to work on it. Terratec did not contribute in any way to the ngene driver. [1] As always, patches are welcome. CU Oliver [1] Some time ago I had a look at that driver, and found that it could not be added to the kernel, due to an GPL-incompatible proprietary license for some files. -- VDR Remote Plugin 0.4.0: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/vdr/ 4 MByte Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-mem-mod/ Full-TS Mod: http://www.escape-edv.de/endriss/dvb-full-ts-mod/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
[DVB] Octopus driver status
Dear all, I'm looking at the Octopus DVB cards system from Digital Devices for a while as their system seems to be very interesting Here is link with their products: http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/62357162.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/6 2357162/Categories The good points I have found: * They support most of the common DVB standards: DVB-C, DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 * They are moderately priced * There is a CAM support with a CI adapter for unscrambling channels * They are using the now de-facto standard PCI-Express bus * The new Octopus system is using a LATTICE PCI-Express bridge that seems to be more future proof than the previous bridge Micronas APB7202A * They seem to be well engineered (Designed and manufactured in Germany as they say!) And now the doubts : * The DVB-C/T frontend driver is specific to this system and is very new, so as Devin said one week ago, it's maybe not yet production ready * The way the CAM is supported break all the existing userland DVB applications (gnutv, mumudvb, vlc, etc.) * There isn't so much information about the Digital Devices company and their products roadmap (at least in English) So, my two very simple questions to the developers who worked on the drivers (I think Oliver and Ralph did) and know the product: * How you feel the future about the Octopus driver? * Do you think a compatibility mode (like module parameter) can be added to simulate the way the CAM is handled in the other drivers? I'm ready to buy the different cards and do some testing if it can help. Best regards, Sebastien. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html