Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-11 Thread Jelle de Jong
Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Antti Palosaari wrote:
>> Hei Devin and Jelle,
>>
>> On 07/11/2009 12:12 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
 I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
 make such a fix. I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
 to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
 ago. I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
 from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.

 Devin
>>> I will fix that just right now. I think I will change demodulator from
>>> "return error invalid value" to "force detect transmission parameters
>>> automatically" in case of broken parameters given.
>> It is fixed now as I see best way.
>>
>> For reason or other my MPlayer didn't give garbage and I never seen any 
>> of those debugs added. I added just similar channels.conf line as Jelle 
>> but changed freq and PIDs used here. Maybe garbage fields are filled "0" 
>> which corresponds AUTO.
>> Anyhow, here it is. Could you test?
>> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9013/
>>
>> regards
>> Antti
> 
> I tried to test it but it did not work, i tried to get some more
> information with printk i am sure but not much luck there. Al test where
> done on the test system, you can login and see for yourself.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jelle
> 
> cd
> hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9013/
> cd af9013/
> make -j3
> sudo make install
> sudo make unload
> sudo modprobe dvb_usb_af9015
> mplayer -nolirc -nojoystick -dvbin card=1 -dvbin timeout=10
> dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
> # did not work
> 

I keep doing test and the debug i got showed it was in auto mode, so i
did a tzap -a 0 -c ~/.tzap/channels.conf -r "3FM(Digitenne)" no lock :D
that other bug was teasing me again... :D I manually replugged the
device and mplayer works perfect. So patch confirmed to build and work.
Thank you very much!

Best regards,

Jelle

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-11 Thread Jelle de Jong
Antti Palosaari wrote:
> Hei Devin and Jelle,
> 
> On 07/11/2009 12:12 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>>> I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
>>> make such a fix. I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
>>> to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
>>> ago. I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
>>> from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.
>>>
>>> Devin
>> I will fix that just right now. I think I will change demodulator from
>> "return error invalid value" to "force detect transmission parameters
>> automatically" in case of broken parameters given.
> 
> It is fixed now as I see best way.
> 
> For reason or other my MPlayer didn't give garbage and I never seen any 
> of those debugs added. I added just similar channels.conf line as Jelle 
> but changed freq and PIDs used here. Maybe garbage fields are filled "0" 
> which corresponds AUTO.
> Anyhow, here it is. Could you test?
> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9013/
> 
> regards
> Antti

I tried to test it but it did not work, i tried to get some more
information with printk i am sure but not much luck there. Al test where
done on the test system, you can login and see for yourself.

Best regards,

Jelle

cd
hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9013/
cd af9013/
make -j3
sudo make install
sudo make unload
sudo modprobe dvb_usb_af9015
mplayer -nolirc -nojoystick -dvbin card=1 -dvbin timeout=10
dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
# did not work
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Antti Palosaari

Hei Devin and Jelle,

On 07/11/2009 12:12 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:

I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
make such a fix. I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
ago. I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.

Devin


I will fix that just right now. I think I will change demodulator from
"return error invalid value" to "force detect transmission parameters
automatically" in case of broken parameters given.


It is fixed now as I see best way.

For reason or other my MPlayer didn't give garbage and I never seen any 
of those debugs added. I added just similar channels.conf line as Jelle 
but changed freq and PIDs used here. Maybe garbage fields are filled "0" 
which corresponds AUTO.

Anyhow, here it is. Could you test?
http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9013/

regards
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 07/10/2009 06:16 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Antti Palosaari  wrote:

af9013 is correct in my mind. af9013 will return -EINVAL (error invalid
value) in case of first garbage value met (maybe better to switch auto mode
when garbage value meet and print debug log?).

Of course there should be at least debug printing to inform that... but fix
you suggest is better for compatibility. You can do that, it is ok for me.



From a purist standpoint, I agree that the application at fault, and

if it were some no-name application I would just say "fix the broken
application".  Except it's not a no-name application - it's mplayer.

Are you familiar with Postel's Law?


No :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postel%27s_Law

Saying "this demod is not going to work properly with all versions of
one of the most popular applications", especially when other demods
handle the condition gracefully, is the sort of thing that causes real
problems for the Linux community.

I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
make such a fix.  I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
ago.  I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.

Devin


I will fix that just right now. I think I will change demodulator from 
"return error invalid value" to "force detect transmission parameters 
automatically" in case of broken parameters given.


thanks,
Antti
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jelle de
Jong wrote:
> Antti if you can fix this issue and help in the future to make some
> signal strength API for application, like w_scan, you can keep the
> Realtek based dvb-t device I sent to you as a gift, some credits for me
> in patches would also be nice since it takes up a lot of time and money
> on my side to :D

I would *really* like to get the strength/SNR situation straightened
out, since it effects all applications, including just the end user's
ability to get some idea of the strength in Kaffeine (something that
should be relatively simple).  I am continuing to brainstorm ideas
some for of solution that won't be considered ridiculous to some
percentage of the demod maintainers.

I did make an effort to credit you for the patches based on your
hardware so far:

http://www.kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/em28xx-terratec-zl10353/rev/274eda5953b4

> I tolled the mplayer people maybe 5 month's ago about this issue. They
> were quite simple I had 4 devices that worked with mplayer one did not
> the problem was with the device, they did not want to listen to the idea
> something was wrong with there mplayer. If somebody want to convince
> them with this new prove/research please do so, I let it rest.

In fairness, I can appreciate why the mplayer developers' initial
impression would be that this is a device-level problem since the
software works with many other devices.  I did definitely confirm it
to be a bug though, and now that we know *exactly* what is wrong,
getting a fix upstream into mplayer shouldn't be very hard (it should
be a ten line patch).  I cannot possibly see them suggesting that
sending garbage values from the stack in an ioctl() call is
appropriate behavior.  :-)

If you want, do a cvs checkout of the latest mplayer source, get it to
successfully compile and work in your environment, and I will see
about logging in next week to cook up a patch we can submit upstream.

Devin

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jelle de
Jong wrote:
> Antti if you can fix this issue and help in the future to make some
> signal strength API for application, like w_scan, you can keep the
> Realtek based dvb-t device I sent to you as a gift, some credits for me
> in patches would also be nice since it takes up a lot of time and money
> on my side to :D

I would *really* like to get the strength/SNR situation straightened
out, since it effects all applications, including just the end user's
ability to get some idea of the strength in Kaffeine (something that
should be relatively simple).  I am continuing to brainstorm ideas
some for of solution that won't be considered ridiculous to some
percentage of the demod maintainers.

I did make an effort to credit you for the patches based on your
hardware so far:

http://www.kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/em28xx-terratec-zl10353/rev/274eda5953b4

> I tolled the mplayer people maybe 5 month's ago about this issue. They
> were quite simple I had 4 devices that worked with mplayer one did not
> the problem was with the device, they did not want to listen to the idea
> something was wrong with there mplayer. If somebody want to convince
> them with this new prove/research please do so, I let it rest.

In fairness, I can appreciate why the mplayer developers' initial
impression would be that this is a device-level problem since the
software works with many other devices.  I did definitely confirm it
to be a bug though, and now that we know *exactly* what is wrong,
getting a fix upstream into mplayer shouldn't be very hard (it should
be a ten line patch).  I cannot possibly see them suggesting that
sending garbage values from the stack in an ioctl() call is
appropriate behavior.  :-)

If you want, do a cvs checkout of the latest mplayer source, get it to
successfully compile and work in your environment, and I will see
about logging in next week to cook up a patch we can submit upstream.

Devin

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Jelle de Jong
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>> af9013 is correct in my mind. af9013 will return -EINVAL (error invalid
>> value) in case of first garbage value met (maybe better to switch auto mode
>> when garbage value meet and print debug log?).
>>
>> Of course there should be at least debug printing to inform that... but fix
>> you suggest is better for compatibility. You can do that, it is ok for me.
> 
> From a purist standpoint, I agree that the application at fault, and
> if it were some no-name application I would just say "fix the broken
> application".  Except it's not a no-name application - it's mplayer.
> 
> Are you familiar with Postel's Law?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postel%27s_Law
> 
> Saying "this demod is not going to work properly with all versions of
> one of the most popular applications", especially when other demods
> handle the condition gracefully, is the sort of thing that causes real
> problems for the Linux community.
> 
> I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
> make such a fix.  I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
> to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
> ago.  I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
> from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.
> 
> Devin
> 

I agree with the arguments, I believe Antti did also and said to me he
will try to work something out next week.

Antti if you can fix this issue and help in the future to make some
signal strength API for application, like w_scan, you can keep the
Realtek based dvb-t device I sent to you as a gift, some credits for me
in patches would also be nice since it takes up a lot of time and money
on my side to :D

I tolled the mplayer people maybe 5 month's ago about this issue. They
were quite simple I had 4 devices that worked with mplayer one did not
the problem was with the device, they did not want to listen to the idea
something was wrong with there mplayer. If somebody want to convince
them with this new prove/research please do so, I let it rest.

Many thanks to Devin and Antti,

Best regards,

Jelle
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> af9013 is correct in my mind. af9013 will return -EINVAL (error invalid
> value) in case of first garbage value met (maybe better to switch auto mode
> when garbage value meet and print debug log?).
>
> Of course there should be at least debug printing to inform that... but fix
> you suggest is better for compatibility. You can do that, it is ok for me.

>From a purist standpoint, I agree that the application at fault, and
if it were some no-name application I would just say "fix the broken
application".  Except it's not a no-name application - it's mplayer.

Are you familiar with Postel's Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postel%27s_Law

Saying "this demod is not going to work properly with all versions of
one of the most popular applications", especially when other demods
handle the condition gracefully, is the sort of thing that causes real
problems for the Linux community.

I'm not the maintainer for this demod, so I'm not the best person to
make such a fix.  I spent four hours and debugged the issue as a favor
to Jelle de Jong since he loaned me some hardware a couple of months
ago.  I guess I can make the fix, but it's just going to take away
from time better spent on things I am more qualified to work on.

Devin

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Antti Palosaari

hei Devin,
Thank you for debugging this issue.

Devin Heitmueller wrote:

Thanks to Jelle providing an environment to debug the issue in, I
isolated the problem.  This is actually a combination of bugs in
mplayer and the af9013 driver not handling the condition as gracefully
as some other demods.

First the bugs in mplayer:

The following is the line from the channels.conf where tuning failed:

Frequency in question:
3FM(Digitenne):72200:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:QAM_AUTO:TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO:GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO:HIERARCHY_AUTO:0:7142:1114

Mplayer does not support "TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO",
"GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO" and "QAM_AUTO" (for the constellation).  In the
case of the transmission mode and constellation, mplayer does not
populate the field at all in the struct sent to the ioctl(), so you
get whatever garbage is on the stack.  For the guard interval field,
it defaults to GUARD_INTERVAL_1_4 if it is an unrecognized value.

I confirmed the mplayer behavior with the version Jelle has, as well
as checking the source code in the svn trunk for the latest mplayer.

So, why does it work with some tuners but not the af9013?  Well, some
demodulators check to see if *any* of the fields are "_AUTO" and if
any of them are, then it puts the demod into auto mode and disregards
whatever is in the other fields.  However, the af9013 looks at each
field, and if any of them are an unrecognized value, the code bails
out in af9013_set_ofdm_params().   As a result, the tuning never
actually happens.

The behavior should be readily apparent if you were to put the above
line into your channels.conf and try to tune (note I had to add
printk() lines to af9013_set_ofdm_params() to see it bail out in the
first switch statement.

Anitti, do you want to take it from here, or would you prefer I rework
the routine to put the device into auto mode if any of the fields are
auto?


af9013 is correct in my mind. af9013 will return -EINVAL (error invalid 
value) in case of first garbage value met (maybe better to switch auto 
mode when garbage value meet and print debug log?).


Of course there should be at least debug printing to inform that... but 
fix you suggest is better for compatibility. You can do that, it is ok 
for me.




Devin


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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-10 Thread Jelle de Jong
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Jelle de Jong 
> wrote:
>> Antti Palosaari wrote:
>>> On 06/26/2009 11:07 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
 Hi all,

 Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
 testing again on one of my long standing issues.

 My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
 em28xx devices do work with mplayer.

 Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
 your devices?

 Debian 2.6.30-1

 /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"

 See the attachments for full details.
>>> For me, this works. I tested this with MT2060 tuner device, as you have
>>> also. If I remember correctly it worked for you also when channel is
>>> selected by using tzap. I don't know what mplayer does differently.
>>>
>>> Do the television channels in that same multiplex work with mplayer?
>>> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"TELEVISION CHANNEL"
>>>
>>> I added some delay for demod to wait lock. Could you try if this helps?
>>> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9015_delay/
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Antti
>> Hi Antti,
>>
>> I will get back to this next week, its a lot of work for me to compile
>> the drivers but I will see if i can get it running. (a pre-compiled
>> driver and some insmod for the 686 2.9.30 kernel would be an fast track
>> option if you want to test it a.s.a.p.)
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Jelle de Jong
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> 
> Antti,
> 
> Thanks to Jelle providing an environment to debug the issue in, I
> isolated the problem.  This is actually a combination of bugs in
> mplayer and the af9013 driver not handling the condition as gracefully
> as some other demods.
> 
> First the bugs in mplayer:
> 
> The following is the line from the channels.conf where tuning failed:
> 
> Frequency in question:
> 3FM(Digitenne):72200:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:QAM_AUTO:TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO:GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO:HIERARCHY_AUTO:0:7142:1114
> 
> Mplayer does not support "TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO",
> "GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO" and "QAM_AUTO" (for the constellation).  In the
> case of the transmission mode and constellation, mplayer does not
> populate the field at all in the struct sent to the ioctl(), so you
> get whatever garbage is on the stack.  For the guard interval field,
> it defaults to GUARD_INTERVAL_1_4 if it is an unrecognized value.
> 
> I confirmed the mplayer behavior with the version Jelle has, as well
> as checking the source code in the svn trunk for the latest mplayer.
> 
> So, why does it work with some tuners but not the af9013?  Well, some
> demodulators check to see if *any* of the fields are "_AUTO" and if
> any of them are, then it puts the demod into auto mode and disregards
> whatever is in the other fields.  However, the af9013 looks at each
> field, and if any of them are an unrecognized value, the code bails
> out in af9013_set_ofdm_params().   As a result, the tuning never
> actually happens.
> 
> The behavior should be readily apparent if you were to put the above
> line into your channels.conf and try to tune (note I had to add
> printk() lines to af9013_set_ofdm_params() to see it bail out in the
> first switch statement.
> 
> Anitti, do you want to take it from here, or would you prefer I rework
> the routine to put the device into auto mode if any of the fields are
> auto?
> 
> Devin
> 

Hi Antti, if you want access to the test environment just give me an
email, it is interesting because currently the Afatech AF9013 DVB-T is
in that weird lock down mode I talked you about! It would be very nice
if you can detect if it is a software or hardware issue, because the
devices doesn't tune anymore but seems to respond to other stuff.

Best regards,

Jelle de Jong
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-09 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Antti Palosaari wrote:
>> On 06/26/2009 11:07 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
>>> testing again on one of my long standing issues.
>>>
>>> My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
>>> em28xx devices do work with mplayer.
>>>
>>> Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
>>> your devices?
>>>
>>> Debian 2.6.30-1
>>>
>>> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
>>>
>>> See the attachments for full details.
>>
>> For me, this works. I tested this with MT2060 tuner device, as you have
>> also. If I remember correctly it worked for you also when channel is
>> selected by using tzap. I don't know what mplayer does differently.
>>
>> Do the television channels in that same multiplex work with mplayer?
>> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"TELEVISION CHANNEL"
>>
>> I added some delay for demod to wait lock. Could you try if this helps?
>> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9015_delay/
>>
>> regards
>> Antti
>
> Hi Antti,
>
> I will get back to this next week, its a lot of work for me to compile
> the drivers but I will see if i can get it running. (a pre-compiled
> driver and some insmod for the 686 2.9.30 kernel would be an fast track
> option if you want to test it a.s.a.p.)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jelle de Jong
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Antti,

Thanks to Jelle providing an environment to debug the issue in, I
isolated the problem.  This is actually a combination of bugs in
mplayer and the af9013 driver not handling the condition as gracefully
as some other demods.

First the bugs in mplayer:

The following is the line from the channels.conf where tuning failed:

Frequency in question:
3FM(Digitenne):72200:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:QAM_AUTO:TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO:GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO:HIERARCHY_AUTO:0:7142:1114

Mplayer does not support "TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO",
"GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO" and "QAM_AUTO" (for the constellation).  In the
case of the transmission mode and constellation, mplayer does not
populate the field at all in the struct sent to the ioctl(), so you
get whatever garbage is on the stack.  For the guard interval field,
it defaults to GUARD_INTERVAL_1_4 if it is an unrecognized value.

I confirmed the mplayer behavior with the version Jelle has, as well
as checking the source code in the svn trunk for the latest mplayer.

So, why does it work with some tuners but not the af9013?  Well, some
demodulators check to see if *any* of the fields are "_AUTO" and if
any of them are, then it puts the demod into auto mode and disregards
whatever is in the other fields.  However, the af9013 looks at each
field, and if any of them are an unrecognized value, the code bails
out in af9013_set_ofdm_params().   As a result, the tuning never
actually happens.

The behavior should be readily apparent if you were to put the above
line into your channels.conf and try to tune (note I had to add
printk() lines to af9013_set_ofdm_params() to see it bail out in the
first switch statement.

Anitti, do you want to take it from here, or would you prefer I rework
the routine to put the device into auto mode if any of the fields are
auto?

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-03 Thread Jelle de Jong
Antti Palosaari wrote:
> On 06/26/2009 11:07 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
>> testing again on one of my long standing issues.
>>
>> My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
>> em28xx devices do work with mplayer.
>>
>> Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
>> your devices?
>>
>> Debian 2.6.30-1
>>
>> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
>>
>> See the attachments for full details.
> 
> For me, this works. I tested this with MT2060 tuner device, as you have 
> also. If I remember correctly it worked for you also when channel is 
> selected by using tzap. I don't know what mplayer does differently.
> 
> Do the television channels in that same multiplex work with mplayer?
> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"TELEVISION CHANNEL"
> 
> I added some delay for demod to wait lock. Could you try if this helps?
> http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9015_delay/
> 
> regards
> Antti

Hi Antti,

I will get back to this next week, its a lot of work for me to compile
the drivers but I will see if i can get it running. (a pre-compiled
driver and some insmod for the 686 2.9.30 kernel would be an fast track
option if you want to test it a.s.a.p.)

Thanks in advance,

Jelle de Jong
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 07/02/2009 11:43 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:

Some extra information about the lockups of my AF9015, this is a serious
blocker issue for me. It happens when I watch a channel with totem-xine
and switch to an other channel, the device is then unable to lock to the
new channel, and totem-xine hangs. There are no messages in dmesg.

Rebooting the system does not help getting the device working again, the
only way i found is to replug the usb device and this is not an option
for my systems because the usb devices are hidden.


I have seen that also with Totem-xine few times. Totem-xine hags totally 
and it must be killed. But after that my device starts working without 
replug (if I remember correctly). One thing could be power issue. If you 
have possibility to test with powered USB -hub please do.



Is there an other USB DVB-T device that works out of the box with the
2.9.30 kernel? Could somebody show me a link or name of this device so I
can buy and test it?


DibCOM based sticks are usually good choice. There is many models from 
many vendors, TerraTec, Artec (Artec T14BR is sold here in Finland 20-30e).


DibCOM also uses big USB block size which seems to reduce system load. 
Look examples from here:

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/User:Hlangos

Could someone explain why USB block size have so big effect to load?

regards
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Antti Palosaari

On 06/26/2009 11:07 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:

Hi all,

Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
testing again on one of my long standing issues.

My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
em28xx devices do work with mplayer.

Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
your devices?

Debian 2.6.30-1

/usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"

See the attachments for full details.


For me, this works. I tested this with MT2060 tuner device, as you have 
also. If I remember correctly it worked for you also when channel is 
selected by using tzap. I don't know what mplayer does differently.


Do the television channels in that same multiplex work with mplayer?
/usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"TELEVISION CHANNEL"

I added some delay for demod to wait lock. Could you try if this helps?
http://linuxtv.org/hg/~anttip/af9015_delay/

regards
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Devin Heitmueller wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Jelle de Jong 
>> wrote:
>>> Is there an other USB DVB-T device that works out of the box with the
>>> 2.9.30 kernel? Could somebody show me a link or name of this device so I
>>> can buy and test it?
>>
>> You might want to check out the WinTV-Ministick, which is both
>> currently available for sale and supported in Linux.
>>
>> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_ministickhd.html
>>
>> Devin
>>
>
> Hi Devin,
>
> Thanks for your response, I am kind of hitting a deadline next Tuesday.
> I must a kind of working dvb-t system here. The af9013 will be a backup
> plan.
>
> So this is my local supplier. Can I ask you to just make a list of
> product ids (ArtNr) and I will order them, if they do not work I will
> sent them out to developers that volunteer:
>
> http://www.informatique.nl/cgi-bin/iqshop.cgi?M=ART&G=167
>
> I am only interested in USB DVB-T devices. I will try to make the order
> tomorrow morning.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jelle

Jelle,

Well, before I offer any suggestions, bear in mind that I actually
don't use DVB-T and I don't have these products, so I cannot claim
that they work from my own experience.

Looking at the DVB-T USB entries in list you sent:

the ASUS U3000 works according to the Wiki:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ASUS_My_Cinema-U3000_Mini

>From the Hauppauge list, the any HVR-900 you would buy today would
almost certainly be an "HVR-900 R2", which is known to not be
supported in the current tree.

>From the Pinnacle list, I can tell you that both versions of the 340e
are not supported (I am actively developing the xc4000 driver required
for them this week).  According to the wiki, both the 72e and 73e do
work:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_72e
http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_nano_Stick_%2873e%29

I'm not familiar with the products from Plextor and Technisat.

Devin

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Jelle de Jong
Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Jelle de Jong 
> wrote:
>> Is there an other USB DVB-T device that works out of the box with the
>> 2.9.30 kernel? Could somebody show me a link or name of this device so I
>> can buy and test it?
> 
> You might want to check out the WinTV-Ministick, which is both
> currently available for sale and supported in Linux.
> 
> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_ministickhd.html
> 
> Devin
> 

Hi Devin,

Thanks for your response, I am kind of hitting a deadline next Tuesday.
I must a kind of working dvb-t system here. The af9013 will be a backup
plan.

So this is my local supplier. Can I ask you to just make a list of
product ids (ArtNr) and I will order them, if they do not work I will
sent them out to developers that volunteer:

http://www.informatique.nl/cgi-bin/iqshop.cgi?M=ART&G=167

I am only interested in USB DVB-T devices. I will try to make the order
tomorrow morning.

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

Jelle
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Is there an other USB DVB-T device that works out of the box with the
> 2.9.30 kernel? Could somebody show me a link or name of this device so I
> can buy and test it?

You might want to check out the WinTV-Ministick, which is both
currently available for sale and supported in Linux.

http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/data_ministickhd.html

Devin

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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-07-02 Thread Jelle de Jong
Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Jelle de Jong wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
>> testing again on one of my long standing issues.
>>
>> My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
>> em28xx devices do work with mplayer.
>>
>> Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
>> your devices?
>>
>> Debian 2.6.30-1
>>
>> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
>>
>> See the attachments for full details.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jelle de Jong
>>
> 
> I am going to give this thread a ping, because I believe this is one of
> the few out of the box supported usb dvb-t devices. And I would like to
> have at least one device that I can currently buy and that works. So
> could somebody with a AF9015 device test if it works with mplayer?
> 
> Also please test the stability. When I use my device with totem it has
> issues getting video, I have to replug the device to get it working
> again, no dmesg error messages and dvb-t signal is very strong.
> 
> I need to be able to just boot the system start totem or mplayer let it
> run stable until the system gets shutdown by the user. (like as a normal
> TV or a DVB-T system with Apple OSX stability)


Some extra information about the lockups of my AF9015, this is a serious
blocker issue for me. It happens when I watch a channel with totem-xine
and switch to an other channel, the device is then unable to lock to the
new channel, and totem-xine hangs. There are no messages in dmesg.

Rebooting the system does not help getting the device working again, the
only way i found is to replug the usb device and this is not an option
for my systems because the usb devices are hidden.

Is there an other USB DVB-T device that works out of the box with the
2.9.30 kernel? Could somebody show me a link or name of this device so I
can buy and test it?

Thanks in advance,

Jelle
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Re: Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-06-30 Thread Jelle de Jong
Jelle de Jong wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
> testing again on one of my long standing issues.
> 
> My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
> em28xx devices do work with mplayer.
> 
> Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
> your devices?
> 
> Debian 2.6.30-1
> 
> /usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"
> 
> See the attachments for full details.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jelle de Jong
> 

I am going to give this thread a ping, because I believe this is one of
the few out of the box supported usb dvb-t devices. And I would like to
have at least one device that I can currently buy and that works. So
could somebody with a AF9015 device test if it works with mplayer?

Also please test the stability. When I use my device with totem it has
issues getting video, I have to replug the device to get it working
again, no dmesg error messages and dvb-t signal is very strong.

I need to be able to just boot the system start totem or mplayer let it
run stable until the system gets shutdown by the user. (like as a normal
TV or a DVB-T system with Apple OSX stability)

Best regards,

Jelle
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Afatech AF9013 DVB-T not working with mplayer radio streams

2009-06-26 Thread Jelle de Jong
Hi all,

Because i now use a new kernel and new mplayer versions I did some
testing again on one of my long standing issues.

My Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick does not work with mplayer, other
em28xx devices do work with mplayer.

Would somebody be willing to do some tests and see if mplayers works on
your devices?

Debian 2.6.30-1

/usr/bin/mplayer -identify -v -dvbin timeout=10 dvb://"3FM(Digitenne)"

See the attachments for full details.

Best regards,

Jelle de Jong
$ dmesg
[ 1179.756075] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[ 1179.892943] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=15a4, idProduct=9016
[ 1179.892958] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 1179.892969] usb 1-2: Product: DVB-T
[ 1179.892978] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Afatech
[ 1179.893314] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 1179.917431] dvb-usb: found a 'Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[ 1179.917458] usb 1-2: firmware: requesting dvb-usb-af9015.fw
[ 1179.955337] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-af9015.fw'
[ 1180.029702] dvb-usb: found a 'Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick' in warm state.
[ 1180.029843] dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
[ 1180.030323] DVB: registering new adapter (Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick)
[ 1180.445189] af9013: firmware version:4.95.0
[ 1180.450068] DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Afatech AF9013 DVB-T)...
[ 1180.453854] MT2060: successfully identified (IF1 = 1220)
[ 1180.923942] dvb-usb: Afatech AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick successfully initialized and connected.
[ 1180.942283] Afatech DVB-T: Fixing fullspeed to highspeed interval: 16 -> 8
[ 1180.943283] input: Afatech DVB-T as /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.1/input/input11
[ 1180.943730] generic-usb 0003:15A4:9016.0004: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.01 Keyboard [Afatech DVB-T] on usb-:00:1d.7-2/input1

$ sudo lsusb -v -d 15a4:9016
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 15a4:9016
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass 0
  bDeviceProtocol 0
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x15a4
  idProduct  0x9016
  bcdDevice2.00
  iManufacturer   1 Afatech
  iProduct2 DVB-T
  iSerial 0
  bNumConfigurations  1
  Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength   71
bNumInterfaces  2
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration  0
bmAttributes 0x80
  (Bus Powered)
MaxPower  500mA
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber0
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   4
  bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
  bInterfaceSubClass  0
  bInterfaceProtocol  0
  iInterface  0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x84  EP 4 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
bInterval   0
  Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x85  EP 5 IN
bmAttributes2
  Transfer TypeBulk
  Synch Type   None
  Usage Type   Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
bInterval   0
Interface Descriptor:
  bLength 9
  bDescriptorType 4
  bInterfaceNumber1
  bAlternateSetting   0
  bNumEndpoints   1
  bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
  bInterfaceSubClass  0 No Subclass
  bInterfaceProtocol  1 Keyboard
  iInterface  0
  ** UNRECOGNIZED:  09 2