DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? Thank you for all indications. -Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? Thank you for all indications. -Michael nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP regardless of whole property and that's it. regards Antti -- http://palosaari.fi/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
Thanks, Looking for a tuner supporting multiple PLP, is it conceivable to add to the driver the possibility to pass to the hardware that value? (I don't know if that need other math though) ( I will look the sources anyway but I don't have good knowledge) If I want to look for another USB stick how could I know if the driver will support that feature? For example is TBS5880 DVB-T2 USB TV Tuner ? I understand here that the difficulties is that few people are in a MultiPLP DVB_T2 range. even myself.. . Regards, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. >> Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an >> effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) >> >> I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London >> DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) >> "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( >>( yes tune always succeed :-D ) >> >> I'm using DVB API 5.6. >> If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to >> 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. >> >> I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with >> plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. >> >> So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to >> use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: >> o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so >> it is maybe requested? >> o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? >> (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? >> >> Thank you for all indications. >> >> -Michael > > > nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that > driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows > driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP regardless > of whole property and that's it. > > regards > Antti > > -- > http://palosaari.fi/ On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. >> Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an >> effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) >> >> I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London >> DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) >> "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( >>( yes tune always succeed :-D ) >> >> I'm using DVB API 5.6. >> If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to >> 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. >> >> I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with >> plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. >> >> So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to >> use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: >> o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so >> it is maybe requested? >> o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? >> (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? >> >> Thank you for all indications. >> >> -Michael > > > nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that > driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows > driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP regardless > of whole property and that's it. > > regards > Antti > > -- > http://palosaari.fi/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
Hi Michael, In terms of Linux support I think you will struggle. The 290e is the only DVB-T2 device with (open) driver support in Linux. I haven't tried a TBS5880 myself but the linuxtv Wiki page doesn't look promising http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS5880_USB_DVB-T2/T/C_CI_hybrid_TV_Box In any case, that device will have the same demod (CXD2820R), and if what Antti says about the Windows driver not supporting multi-PLP either (if I've read his remarks correctly), you're probably out of luck. As far as I know the CXD2820R is the only T2 demod that's made it into any USB/PCI receivers so there are no other options. There might be a datasheet somewhere that would hint at how to provide PLP selection and then it would need implementing. The question is where to find it and how much effort would be required. Regards, Steve. On 31/01/13 15:02, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Thanks, Looking for a tuner supporting multiple PLP, is it conceivable to add to the driver the possibility to pass to the hardware that value? (I don't know if that need other math though) ( I will look the sources anyway but I don't have good knowledge) If I want to look for another USB stick how could I know if the driver will support that feature? For example is TBS5880 DVB-T2 USB TV Tuner ? I understand here that the difficulties is that few people are in a MultiPLP DVB_T2 range. even myself.. . Regards, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? Thank you for all indications. -Michael nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP regardless of whole property and that's it. regards Antti -- http://palosaari.fi/ On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? Thank you for all indications. -Michael nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP regardless of whole property and that's it. regards Antti -- http://palosaari.fi/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- Steve Kerrison MEng Hons. http://www.stevekerrison.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
Hello, Thank you. Meanwhile I've contacted TBS and support told me that they have their windows driver working (in lab) with multi PLP. For now they don't want touching the Linux driver with that same modification because they wait confirmation on the field that the Windows driver is working. I'm not in Russia now therefore I can't confirm for them that their windows driver works with a real life DVB-T2 broadcast... I will maybe have an access in Tomsk but I'm not sure yet if there is DVB-T2 broadcast with a multi PLP there... Eventually, is there somebody in Russia under a DVB-T2 multi PLP broadcast range? Regards, On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Steve Kerrison wrote: > Hi Michael, > > In terms of Linux support I think you will struggle. The 290e is the only > DVB-T2 device with (open) driver support in Linux. I haven't tried a TBS5880 > myself but the linuxtv Wiki page doesn't look promising > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS5880_USB_DVB-T2/T/C_CI_hybrid_TV_Box > > In any case, that device will have the same demod (CXD2820R), and if what > Antti says about the Windows driver not supporting multi-PLP either (if I've > read his remarks correctly), you're probably out of luck. > > As far as I know the CXD2820R is the only T2 demod that's made it into any > USB/PCI receivers so there are no other options. There might be a datasheet > somewhere that would hint at how to provide PLP selection and then it would > need implementing. The question is where to find it and how much effort > would be required. > > Regards, > Steve. > > > On 31/01/13 15:02, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: >> >> Thanks, >> >> Looking for a tuner supporting multiple PLP, is it conceivable to add >> to the driver the possibility to pass to the hardware that value? (I >> don't know if that need other math though) ( I will look the sources >> anyway but I don't have good knowledge) >> >> If I want to look for another USB stick how could I know if the driver >> will support that feature? >> For example is TBS5880 DVB-T2 USB TV Tuner ? >> >> I understand here that the difficulties is that few people are in a >> MultiPLP DVB_T2 range. even myself.. . >> >> Regards, >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: >>> >>> On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? Thank you for all indications. -Michael >>> >>> >>> nanoStick T2 290e Linux driver does not support multiple PLPs. I did that >>> driver and I has only Live signal with single TS. What I think Windows >>> driver either supports that feature. It just tunes to first PLP >>> regardless >>> of whole property and that's it. >>> >>> regards >>> Antti >>> >>> -- >>> http://palosaari.fi/ >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: >>> >>> On 01/31/2013 04:27 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: Hello, I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) I'm using DVB API 5.6. If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so it is maybe requested? o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6?
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Stilmant-Rovi wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to know the support status of Multiple PLPs in DVB-T2. > Is someone know if tests were performed in a broadcast with an > effective Multistream? (PLP Id: 0 and 1 for example) > > I'm out of range of such multiplex but I'm trying some tunes on London > DVB-T2 (CrystalPalace tower) > "unfortunately" that mux seems Single PLP and everything work well :-( > ( yes tune always succeed :-D ) > > I'm using DVB API 5.6. > If I tune with FE_SET_PROPERTY without or with DTV_DVBT2_PLP_ID set to > 0, 1 or 15. the tune succeed. > > I'm not sure of the expected behavior, I was expecting if I tune with > plp_id 1 that the tuner would fail somewhere finding that stream. > > So in short I don't understand what is the requirements to be able to > use the DVB_T2 Multistream support proposed in APIs: > o I see that the DVB API 5.8(?) had some patch at that level and so > it is maybe requested? > o How can I know if my driver support that feature on DVB API 5.6? > (PCTV nanoStick T2 290e)? > > Thank you for all indications. At least, according to Sony: the CXD2820 chipset maker (hardware) doesn't support multiple PLP's. Regards, Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: DVB_T2 Multistream support (PLP)
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Manu Abraham wrote: > At least, according to Sony: the CXD2820 chipset maker (hardware) doesn't > support multiple PLP's. Ho!? I don't well understand Is it because you mention CXD2820 and not CXD2820R? because Sony spec http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol60/pdf/cxd2820r.pdf mention "Supports Multiple-PLP" And there "The CXD2820R conforms to DTG400, DTG401, DTG402, DTG403, DTG404 and other parameters." Where I don't know what DTGxxx. Regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
