Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Hi Naveen,

Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
 Hi Mauro,
 
 Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this time at 
 San Diego?
 Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed schedule, please pass on. I 
 am planning 
 to be in only on that day as I cannot stay back more than that this time 
 around.

The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following agenda,
for the ones that got the invitation:

morning:
   V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
   Media Controller library: 30 min
   ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
   ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
- after lunch: 
   SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
   V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
   Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min
   HDMI CEC: 30 min
   Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min

On Wednesday, August 29th, there will be open plenary sections, together
with the other Kernel Summit participants.

Regards,
Mauro
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
Hi Mauro

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

 Hi Naveen,
 
 Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
  Hi Mauro,
  
  Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this time 
  at San Diego?
  Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed schedule, please pass on. I 
  am planning 
  to be in only on that day as I cannot stay back more than that this time 
  around.
 
 The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following agenda,
 for the ones that got the invitation:
 
 morning:
V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
Media Controller library: 30 min
ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
 - after lunch: 
SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min

Wow, this is interesting... Have I proposed this? :-) Or is anyone else 
working on an alternative solution?... I don't mind talking about this, if 
indeed my work is meant, just really cannot remember discussing taking 
this topic to the KS... I might have forgotten though... /me confused :-)

HDMI CEC: 30 min
Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min

What happened to the V4L DT topic? I believe, Sylwester and I have been 
discussing this pretty intensively over the last couple of weeks and, 
hopefully, are just about to submit an example V4L .dts fragment.

 On Wednesday, August 29th, there will be open plenary sections, together
 with the other Kernel Summit participants.

Thanks
Guennadi
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Guennadi,

On Friday 24 August 2012 14:11:58 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
   Hi Mauro,
   
   Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this
   time at San Diego? Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed
   schedule, please pass on. I am planning to be in only on that day as I
   cannot stay back more than that this time around. 
 
  The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following
  agenda, for the ones that got the invitation:
  morning:
 V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
 Media Controller library: 30 min
 ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
 ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
  
  - after lunch:
 SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
 V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
 Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min
 
 Wow, this is interesting... Have I proposed this? :-) Or is anyone else
 working on an alternative solution?... I don't mind talking about this, if
 indeed my work is meant, just really cannot remember discussing taking
 this topic to the KS... I might have forgotten though... /me confused :-)
 
 HDMI CEC: 30 min
 Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min
 
 What happened to the V4L DT topic? I believe, Sylwester and I have been
 discussing this pretty intensively over the last couple of weeks and,
 hopefully, are just about to submit an example V4L .dts fragment.

I believe it was deemed to be a too complex topic that would take too much 
time to fit in the schedule. I will be free on Monday to discuss this, should 
we organize a (informal) meeting ?

  On Wednesday, August 29th, there will be open plenary sections, together
  with the other Kernel Summit participants.

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
Hi Laurent

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

 Hi Guennadi,
 
 On Friday 24 August 2012 14:11:58 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
  On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
Hi Mauro,

Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this
time at San Diego? Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed
schedule, please pass on. I am planning to be in only on that day as I
cannot stay back more than that this time around. 
  
   The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following
   agenda, for the ones that got the invitation:
   morning:
  V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
  Media Controller library: 30 min
  ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
  ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
   
   - after lunch:
  SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
  V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
  Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min
  
  Wow, this is interesting... Have I proposed this? :-) Or is anyone else
  working on an alternative solution?... I don't mind talking about this, if
  indeed my work is meant, just really cannot remember discussing taking
  this topic to the KS... I might have forgotten though... /me confused :-)
  
  HDMI CEC: 30 min
  Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min
  
  What happened to the V4L DT topic? I believe, Sylwester and I have been
  discussing this pretty intensively over the last couple of weeks and,
  hopefully, are just about to submit an example V4L .dts fragment.
 
 I believe it was deemed to be a too complex topic that would take too much 
 time to fit in the schedule. I will be free on Monday to discuss this, should 
 we organize a (informal) meeting ?

Sure, everyone is most welcome to join me on the plane;-) I should arrive 
to the airport at 18:15, so, if anyone would like to talk to me after a 
13.5-hour trip - we can try that:-)

   On Wednesday, August 29th, there will be open plenary sections, together
   with the other Kernel Summit participants.

Thanks
Guennadi
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em 24-08-2012 09:41, Guennadi Liakhovetski escreveu:
 Hi Laurent
 
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
 
 Hi Guennadi,

 On Friday 24 August 2012 14:11:58 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
 Hi Mauro,

 Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this
 time at San Diego? Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed
 schedule, please pass on. I am planning to be in only on that day as I
 cannot stay back more than that this time around. 

 The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following
 agenda, for the ones that got the invitation:
 morning:
V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
Media Controller library: 30 min
ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
 
 - after lunch:
SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min

 Wow, this is interesting... Have I proposed this? :-) Or is anyone else
 working on an alternative solution?... I don't mind talking about this, if
 indeed my work is meant, just really cannot remember discussing taking
 this topic to the KS... I might have forgotten though... /me confused :-)

It was proposed by someone ;) I think you said you would be giving this
talk, if I'm not mistaken, on the discussions we had. So, we're counting
on you ;)



HDMI CEC: 30 min
Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min

 What happened to the V4L DT topic? I believe, Sylwester and I have been
 discussing this pretty intensively over the last couple of weeks and,
 hopefully, are just about to submit an example V4L .dts fragment.

There was some discussions about having a DT summit or BoF there, so
it was left away from the media workshop, due to the lack of time for all
panels there (and since this is really a DT-specific theme). I didn't
track if the DT workshop got actually scheduled or not.

 I believe it was deemed to be a too complex topic that would take too much 
 time to fit in the schedule. I will be free on Monday to discuss this, 
 should 
 we organize a (informal) meeting ?
 
 Sure, everyone is most welcome to join me on the plane;-) I should arrive 
 to the airport at 18:15, so, if anyone would like to talk to me after a 
 13.5-hour trip - we can try that:-)

I'm sure you'll be able to find some time along the week to do such
meeting. In my case, I don't feel I need to be on such discussions,
as this is not directly related to the media API, and such patches go
though other trees (or though media tree, but with DT maintainers
acks). Yet, I'd like to know about the end results of such discussions, 
in order to keep track of it.

Regards,
Mauro
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-24 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

 Em 24-08-2012 09:41, Guennadi Liakhovetski escreveu:
  Hi Laurent
  
  On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  
  Hi Guennadi,
 
  On Friday 24 August 2012 14:11:58 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
  On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em 22-08-2012 18:39, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
  Hi Mauro,
 
  Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this
  time at San Diego? Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed
  schedule, please pass on. I am planning to be in only on that day as I
  cannot stay back more than that this time around. 
 
  The media workshop will be at Tuesday, August 28th, with the following
  agenda, for the ones that got the invitation:
  morning:
 V4L2 API ambiguities + v4l2 compliance tool: 60 min
 Media Controller library: 30 min
 ALSA and V4L/Media Controller: 30 min
 ARM and needed features for V4L/DVB: 30 min
  
  - after lunch:
 SoC Vendors feedback – how to help them to go upstream: 45 min
 V4L2/DVB issues from userspace perspective: 45 min
 Android's V4L2 cam library: 30 min
 
  Wow, this is interesting... Have I proposed this? :-) Or is anyone else
  working on an alternative solution?... I don't mind talking about this, if
  indeed my work is meant, just really cannot remember discussing taking
  this topic to the KS... I might have forgotten though... /me confused :-)
 
 It was proposed by someone ;) I think you said you would be giving this
 talk, if I'm not mistaken, on the discussions we had. So, we're counting
 on you ;)

Ok, np, I'll make something up ;-)

 HDMI CEC: 30 min
 Synchronization, shared resource and optimizations: 30 min
 
  What happened to the V4L DT topic? I believe, Sylwester and I have been
  discussing this pretty intensively over the last couple of weeks and,
  hopefully, are just about to submit an example V4L .dts fragment.
 
 There was some discussions about having a DT summit or BoF there, so
 it was left away from the media workshop, due to the lack of time for all
 panels there (and since this is really a DT-specific theme). I didn't
 track if the DT workshop got actually scheduled or not.
 
  I believe it was deemed to be a too complex topic that would take too much 
  time to fit in the schedule. I will be free on Monday to discuss this, 
  should 
  we organize a (informal) meeting ?
  
  Sure, everyone is most welcome to join me on the plane;-) I should arrive 
  to the airport at 18:15, so, if anyone would like to talk to me after a 
  13.5-hour trip - we can try that:-)
 
 I'm sure you'll be able to find some time along the week to do such
 meeting. In my case, I don't feel I need to be on such discussions,
 as this is not directly related to the media API, and such patches go
 though other trees (or though media tree, but with DT maintainers
 acks). Yet, I'd like to know about the end results of such discussions, 
 in order to keep track of it.

ok, we'll see what becomes possible.

Thanks
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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-22 Thread Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY
Hi Mauro,

Can you please provide the schedule for the linuxTV discussions this time at 
San Diego? Which day will it be on? If you have a detailed schedule, please 
pass on. I am planning to be in only on that day as I cannot stay back more 
than that this time around.

Regards
Naveen

-Original Message-
From: workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org 
[mailto:workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:23 AM
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski
Cc: workshop-2...@linuxtv.org; Linux Media Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

Em 21-07-2012 02:06, Guennadi Liakhovetski escreveu:
 Hi Mauro
 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 
 Hi Mauro

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.

 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
 before the LinuxCon North America.

 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
 in order to start planning the agenda.

 I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing 
 some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like I won't 
 be able to do so unfortunately.
 
 Things change and sometimes also to the better:-) Looks like I'll be able 
 to attend actually. So, please add me to the list.

Great to know!

Regards,
Mauro


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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-02 Thread Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY
Hi Mauro,

For the summit this time it is be just me who would be attending. The another 
person who was slated to  join me cannot make it this time.

Sorry for the delay in response.

Regards
Naveen

-Original Message-
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab [mailto:mche...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:50 AM
To: Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY
Cc: Linux Media Mailing List; workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
Subject: Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

Em 24-07-2012 21:17, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
 Hello Mauro,
 
 We would like to participate in the media summit at San Diego. Can you please 
 reserve 2 seats for us. 

Who are you planning to send to the media summit?

 If possible we would like to reserve a session to present how we have used 
 the linuxTV to model our 
 devices and support our use cases. We will also consolidate and pass on a 
 list of questions related 
 to spec ambiguities and hope to get it clarified during the summit!
 
 Can you please confirm back on the feasibility of our attendance?

I'll be doing it along this week.

Regards,
Mauro
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-08-01 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Tue July 24 2012 19:40:27 Michael Krufky wrote:
 Apologies for my late reply -- I plan to attend the conference!!!   I
 am looking to book everything today...  I think I'm going to Barcelona
 as well -- will you guys go to both conferences?

I plan on going to Barcelona as well.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-31 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em 17-07-2012 19:46, Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
 Hi Mauro,
 
 On Tuesday 17 July 2012 14:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
 Great news!
 
 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just before
 the LinuxCon North America.

 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate, and to
 get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there, in order to start
 planning the agenda.
 
 Sakari and I will spend time on the long-awaited media controller library in 
 a 
 couple of weeks, I hope to have results to present during the summit.

Great!

 Depending on the audience, I would also be interested in getting feedback 
 from 
 SoC vendors who are not (yet) active in the V4L2 community on our approach 
 and 
 how we could best help them. This could include discussions about Android, as 
 I believe we need to push V4L2 on that platform. Guennadi's recent work on an 
 Android V4L2 camera library is a good first step in that direction.

Excelent idea. I'll be adding it at the topics proposal summary.

Thanks,
Mauro

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-31 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em 21-07-2012 02:06, Guennadi Liakhovetski escreveu:
 Hi Mauro
 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 
 Hi Mauro

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.

 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
 before the LinuxCon North America.

 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
 in order to start planning the agenda.

 I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing 
 some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like I won't 
 be able to do so unfortunately.
 
 Things change and sometimes also to the better:-) Looks like I'll be able 
 to attend actually. So, please add me to the list.

Great to know!

Regards,
Mauro

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-31 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em 24-07-2012 21:17, Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY escreveu:
 Hello Mauro,
 
 We would like to participate in the media summit at San Diego. Can you please 
 reserve 2 seats for us. 

Who are you planning to send to the media summit?

 If possible we would like to reserve a session to present how we have used 
 the linuxTV to model our 
 devices and support our use cases. We will also consolidate and pass on a 
 list of questions related 
 to spec ambiguities and hope to get it clarified during the summit!
 
 Can you please confirm back on the feasibility of our attendance?

I'll be doing it along this week.

Regards,
Mauro
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:21:05 +0200, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl

wrote:

 On Tue July 24 2012 22:37:35 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:

 Le mardi 24 juillet 2012 23:31:42 Andy Walls, vous avez écrit :

  I would strongly be in favor of this.  One thing that we get far to

  little of is feedback from actual userland developers making use of

  the V4L and DVB interfaces (aside from the SoC vendors, which is a

  completely different target audience than the traditional V4L and

DVB

  consumers)

  

  Devin

  

  Ditto.  Input from user application developers  is something that

  kernel

  developers need and value greatly.

  

  Note, that I will not be at the workshop of Plumbers this year. :(

 

 Is the media summit timed with LPC or the kernel summit? If I come, I

 have

 to leave on Thursday to catch the VideoLAN conference in Paris on the

 next

 week- end...

 

 It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you

should 

 have ample time.



Oh? Is this firm yet? There's some pressure to book flights early here...



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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Thu 26 July 2012 11:32:56 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:21:05 +0200, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl
 wrote:
  On Tue July 24 2012 22:37:35 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
  Le mardi 24 juillet 2012 23:31:42 Andy Walls, vous avez écrit :
   I would strongly be in favor of this.  One thing that we get far to
   little of is feedback from actual userland developers making use of
   the V4L and DVB interfaces (aside from the SoC vendors, which is a
   completely different target audience than the traditional V4L and
 DVB
   consumers)
   
   Devin
   
   Ditto.  Input from user application developers  is something that
   kernel
   developers need and value greatly.
   
   Note, that I will not be at the workshop of Plumbers this year. :(
  
  Is the media summit timed with LPC or the kernel summit? If I come, I
  have
  to leave on Thursday to catch the VideoLAN conference in Paris on the
  next
  week- end...
  
  It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you
 should 
  have ample time.
 
 Oh? Is this firm yet? There's some pressure to book flights early here...

Yes, that's firm.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:42:15 +0200, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl

wrote:

  It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you

  should have ample time.

 

 Oh? Is this firm yet? There's some pressure to book flights early

here...

 

 Yes, that's firm.



Sorry again... Does that mean nothing happens on Sunday and Monday?

Also, when do get confirmed invitations to attend the media summit?



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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Thu 26 July 2012 14:05:51 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:42:15 +0200, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl
 wrote:
   It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you
   should have ample time.
  
  Oh? Is this firm yet? There's some pressure to book flights early
 here...
  
  Yes, that's firm.
 
 Sorry again... Does that mean nothing happens on Sunday and Monday?

To my knowledge there is nothing planned with respect to V4L/DVB.

Monday is the closed session of the kernel summit. All workshops of the
various subsystems are scheduled on Tuesday.

That doesn't mean nothing happens: I'll be attending the gstreamer
conference on Monday myself.

 Also, when do get confirmed invitations to attend the media summit?

I'll make sure you'll be invited. I'm not even sure you need an official
invite for the workshop. I know that anyone who also attends the LPC can
get an invite for the workshops on Tuesday for free.

Anyway, I'll put your name on the list and make sure that Mauro will pass
that on to the organizers once he's back from vacation.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Rémi,

On Thursday 26 July 2012 14:05:51 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:42:15 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
   It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you
   
   should have ample time.
  
  Oh? Is this firm yet? There's some pressure to book flights early
 
 here...
 
  Yes, that's firm.
 
 Sorry again... Does that mean nothing happens on Sunday and Monday?

Nothing is a bit too strong of a word :-)

Several developers will already be present on Sunday and Monday, so it could 
be possible to already hold meetings (although getting a room might not be 
easy). You can also attend the GStreamer Conference on Monday if you wish.

 Also, when do get confirmed invitations to attend the media summit?

I expect Mauro to send them when he will be back from holidays.

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-25 Thread Hans Verkuil
Hi Naveen,

On Wed July 25 2012 02:17:25 Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY wrote:
 Hello Mauro,
 
 We would like to participate in the media summit at San Diego. Can you
 please reserve 2 seats for us. If possible we would like to reserve a
 session to present how we have used the linuxTV to model our devices and
 support our use cases. We will also consolidate and pass on a list of
 questions related to spec ambiguities and hope to get it clarified during
 the summit!

Please pass that list on to me. I'm doing the section on V4L2 spec ambiguities 
etc., so I'd like to merge all just questions in one session.

Note that my session only deals with V4L2 issues. For DVB issues someone
else would have to coordinate that.

Regards,

Hans

 
 Can you please confirm back on the feasibility of our attendance?
 
 Regards
 Naveen Krishnamurthy
 ST Microelectronics.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org
 [mailto:workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Mauro Carvalho
 Chehab Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:31 AM
 To: Linux Media Mailing List; workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
 Subject: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re:
 [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit
 
 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
 before the LinuxCon North America.
 
 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
 in order to start planning the agenda.
 
 Thanks!
 Mauro
 
  Mensagem original 
 Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the
 Kernel Summit Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
 De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
 Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
 CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel
 linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
 
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
  August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
  this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
  kernel summit discuss list:
  
  ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
  
  Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
  mini summits.
  
  As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
  invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
  the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
  evening events.
 
 OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
 (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
 mini-summits for:
 
 * ARM
 * Media
 * PCI
 * memcg
 
 I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
 discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
 the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
 indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
 mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
 
 Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
 addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
 an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
 who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
 create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
 that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
 hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
 thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
 who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
 successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
 multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
 
 Thanks!!
 
   - Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-25 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Tue July 24 2012 19:40:27 Michael Krufky wrote:
 Apologies for my late reply -- I plan to attend the conference!!!

Looking forward to seeing you again!

 I am looking to book everything today...  I think I'm going to Barcelona
 as well -- will you guys go to both conferences?

I'll be in Barcelona as well.

Regards,

Hans

 
 On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Guennadi Liakhovetski
 
 g.liakhovet...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi Mauro
  
  On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
  Hi Mauro
  
  On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at
   KS/2012.
   
   The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
   before the LinuxCon North America.
   
   In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
   and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
   in order to start planning the agenda.
  
  I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started
  doing some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like
  I won't be able to do so unfortunately.
  
  Things change and sometimes also to the better:-) Looks like I'll be able
  to attend actually. So, please add me to the list.
  
  Thanks
  Guennadi
  
   Thanks!
   Mauro
   
    Mensagem original 
   Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the
   Kernel Summit Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
   De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
   Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
   CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel
   linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
   
   On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
Hi All,

We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit
on this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them
to the kernel summit discuss list:

ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org

Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or
five mini summits.

As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation
to the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day)
and the evening events.
   
   OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
   (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
   mini-summits for:
   
   * ARM
   * Media
   * PCI
   * memcg
   
   I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
   discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
   the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
   indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
   mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
   
   Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
   addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
   an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
   who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
   create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
   that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
   hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
   thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
   who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
   successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
   multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
   
   Thanks!!
   
   - Ted
   
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-25 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Tue July 24 2012 22:37:35 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
 Le mardi 24 juillet 2012 23:31:42 Andy Walls, vous avez écrit :
  I would strongly be in favor of this.  One thing that we get far to
  little of is feedback from actual userland developers making use of
  the V4L and DVB interfaces (aside from the SoC vendors, which is a
  completely different target audience than the traditional V4L and DVB
  consumers)
  
  Devin
  
  Ditto.  Input from user application developers  is something that kernel
  developers need and value greatly.
  
  Note, that I will not be at the workshop of Plumbers this year. :(
 
 Is the media summit timed with LPC or the kernel summit? If I come, I have
 to leave on Thursday to catch the VideoLAN conference in Paris on the next
 week- end...

It's timed with the kernel summit and it will be on Tuesday. So you should 
have ample time.

And feedback to us from a user perspective would be very useful. As others
have mentioned, we do not see that often enough.

Regards,

Hans
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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-25 Thread Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY
Sure Hans, we will collate the spec ambiguities and pass it on to you before 
the meeting for you.

Regards
Naveen

-Original Message-
From: Hans Verkuil [mailto:hverk...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:18 PM
To: workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
Cc: Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY; Mauro Carvalho Chehab; Linux Media Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

Hi Naveen,

On Wed July 25 2012 02:17:25 Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY wrote:
 Hello Mauro,
 
 We would like to participate in the media summit at San Diego. Can you
 please reserve 2 seats for us. If possible we would like to reserve a
 session to present how we have used the linuxTV to model our devices and
 support our use cases. We will also consolidate and pass on a list of
 questions related to spec ambiguities and hope to get it clarified during
 the summit!

Please pass that list on to me. I'm doing the section on V4L2 spec ambiguities 
etc., so I'd like to merge all just questions in one session.

Note that my session only deals with V4L2 issues. For DVB issues someone
else would have to coordinate that.

Regards,

Hans

 
 Can you please confirm back on the feasibility of our attendance?
 
 Regards
 Naveen Krishnamurthy
 ST Microelectronics.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org
 [mailto:workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Mauro Carvalho
 Chehab Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:31 AM
 To: Linux Media Mailing List; workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
 Subject: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re:
 [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit
 
 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
 before the LinuxCon North America.
 
 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
 in order to start planning the agenda.
 
 Thanks!
 Mauro
 
  Mensagem original 
 Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the
 Kernel Summit Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
 De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
 Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
 CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel
 linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
 
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
  August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
  this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
  kernel summit discuss list:
  
  ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
  
  Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
  mini summits.
  
  As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
  invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
  the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
  evening events.
 
 OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
 (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
 mini-summits for:
 
 * ARM
 * Media
 * PCI
 * memcg
 
 I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
 discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
 the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
 indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
 mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
 
 Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
 addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
 an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
 who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
 create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
 that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
 hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
 thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
 who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
 successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
 multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
 
 Thanks!!
 
   - Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Krufky
Apologies for my late reply -- I plan to attend the conference!!!   I
am looking to book everything today...  I think I'm going to Barcelona
as well -- will you guys go to both conferences?

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Guennadi Liakhovetski
g.liakhovet...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi Mauro

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:

 Hi Mauro

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

  As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
  The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
  before the LinuxCon North America.
 
  In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
  and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
  in order to start planning the agenda.

 I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing
 some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like I won't
 be able to do so unfortunately.

 Things change and sometimes also to the better:-) Looks like I'll be able
 to attend actually. So, please add me to the list.

 Thanks
 Guennadi

  Thanks!
  Mauro
 
   Mensagem original 
  Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the 
  Kernel Summit
  Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
  De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
  Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
  CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel 
  linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
 
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
   August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
   this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
   kernel summit discuss list:
  
   ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
  
   Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
   mini summits.
  
   As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
   invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
   the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
   evening events.
 
  OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
  (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
  mini-summits for:
 
  * ARM
  * Media
  * PCI
  * memcg
 
  I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
  discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
  the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
  indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
  mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
 
  Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
  addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
  an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
  who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
  create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
  that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
  hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
  thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
  who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
  successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
  multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
 
  Thanks!!
 
  - Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-24 Thread Michael Krufky
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 07/24/2012 11:11 PM, Devin Heitmueller wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont r...@remlab.net
 wrote:

 If it's of interest to anyone, I could probably present a bunch of issues
 with
 V4L2 and DVB from userspace perspective.


 Remi,


 I would strongly be in favor of this.  One thing that we get far to
 little of is feedback from actual userland developers making use of
 the V4L and DVB interfaces (aside from the SoC vendors, which is a
 completely different target audience than the traditional V4L and DVB
 consumers)


 I wonder if it is wise to merge both DVB and V4L2 APIs, add needed DVB stuff
 to V4L2 API and finally remove whole DVB API. V4L2 API seems to be much more
 feature rich, developed more actively and maybe has less problems than
 current DVB API.

lets never do that.
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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-24 Thread Naveen KRISHNAMURTHY
Hello Mauro,

We would like to participate in the media summit at San Diego. Can you please 
reserve 2 seats for us. If possible we would like to reserve a session to 
present how we have used the linuxTV to model our devices and support our use 
cases. We will also consolidate and pass on a list of questions related to spec 
ambiguities and hope to get it clarified during the summit!

Can you please confirm back on the feasibility of our attendance?

Regards
Naveen Krishnamurthy
ST Microelectronics.

-Original Message-
From: workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org 
[mailto:workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Linux Media Mailing List; workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
Subject: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.

The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
before the LinuxCon North America.

In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
in order to start planning the agenda.

Thanks!
Mauro

 Mensagem original 
Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel 
Summit
Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
 August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
 this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
 kernel summit discuss list:
 
 ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
 
 Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
 mini summits.
 
 As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
 invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
 the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
 evening events.

OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
(or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
mini-summits for:

* ARM
* Media
* PCI
* memcg

I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)

Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.

Thanks!!

- Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-20 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
Hi Mauro

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:

 Hi Mauro
 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 
  As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
  
  The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
  before the LinuxCon North America.
  
  In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
  and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
  in order to start planning the agenda.
 
 I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing 
 some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like I won't 
 be able to do so unfortunately.

Things change and sometimes also to the better:-) Looks like I'll be able 
to attend actually. So, please add me to the list.

Thanks
Guennadi

  Thanks!
  Mauro
  
   Mensagem original 
  Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the 
  Kernel Summit
  Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
  De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
  Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
  CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel 
  linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
  
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
   Hi All,
   
   We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
   August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
   this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
   kernel summit discuss list:
   
   ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
   
   Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
   mini summits.
   
   As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
   invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
   the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
   evening events.
  
  OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
  (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
  mini-summits for:
  
  * ARM
  * Media
  * PCI
  * memcg
  
  I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
  discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
  the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
  indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
  mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
  
  Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
  addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
  an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
  who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
  create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
  that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
  hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
  thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
  who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
  successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
  multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
  
  Thanks!!
  
  - Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
Hi Laurent

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

 Hi Guennadi,
 
 On Tuesday 17 July 2012 21:51:02 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
  On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
   
   The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
   before the LinuxCon North America.
   
   In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
   and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
   in order to start planning the agenda.
  
  I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing
  some work on V4L DT bindings,
 
 As you already know, that's a topic I'm very interested in. DT bindings will 
 likely involve rethinking how the V4L2 core and V4L2 drivers instantiate 
 subdevices, a media summit would have been a good occasion to discuss that. 
 However, we probably need an RFC to start with.

You've certainly seen these two RFCs currently being discussed:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/50755
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.samsung-soc/11143

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Palash,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 15:57:18 Palash Bandyopadhyay wrote:
 Count me in when we have this discussion as this is something we too are
 working on.

Which one, the media controller library, or Android ?

 On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:47 PM Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 July 2012 14:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
  
  Great news!
  
   The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
   before the LinuxCon North America.
   
   In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
   and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there, in
   order to start planning the agenda.
  
  Sakari and I will spend time on the long-awaited media controller library
  in a couple of weeks, I hope to have results to present during the summit.
  
  Depending on the audience, I would also be interested in getting feedback
  from SoC vendors who are not (yet) active in the V4L2 community on our
  approach and how we could best help them. This could include discussions
  about Android, as I believe we need to push V4L2 on that platform.
  Guennadi's recent work on an Android V4L2 camera library is a good first
  step in that direction.

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Guennadi,

On Wednesday 18 July 2012 10:30:28 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 July 2012 21:51:02 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
   On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at
KS/2012.

The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
before the LinuxCon North America.

In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
in order to start planning the agenda.
   
   I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started
   doing
   some work on V4L DT bindings,
  
  As you already know, that's a topic I'm very interested in. DT bindings
  will likely involve rethinking how the V4L2 core and V4L2 drivers
  instantiate subdevices, a media summit would have been a good occasion to
  discuss that. However, we probably need an RFC to start with.
 
 You've certainly seen these two RFCs currently being discussed:
 
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/50755

Sorry, I meant RFC patches. The devil (or part of it) will be in the details, 
solving race conditions and other similarly fun issues will require 
experimentation.

 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.samsung-soc/11143

I still need to review that one :-)

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Tuesday 17 July 2012 21:41:18 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
 Hi Hans,
 
 On Tuesday 17 July 2012 21:32:22 Hans Verkuil wrote:
  On Tue July 17 2012 19:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
   
   The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
   before the LinuxCon North America.
   
   In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
   and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
   in order to start planning the agenda.
  
  I'd like to have 30 minutes to discuss a few V4L2 API ambiguities or just
  plain weirdness, just like I did last year. I'll make an RFC issues to
  discuss beforehand. I might also have a short presentation/demo of
  v4l2-compliance, as I believe more people need to know about that utility.
 
 That's a good idea. On the topic of ambiguities, could you add
 VIDIOC_STREAMON and VIDIOC_STREAMOFF behaviour when the stream is already
 started/stopped respectively ?

Another ambiguity for your list: what should a driver return in TRY_FMT/S_FMT 
if the requested format is not supported (possible behaviours include 
returning the currently selected format or a default format).

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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Palash Bandyopadhyay
Android

-palash

-Original Message-
From: Laurent Pinchart [mailto:laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:37 AM
To: Palash Bandyopadhyay
Cc: workshop-2...@linuxtv.org; Linux Media Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

Hi Palash,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 15:57:18 Palash Bandyopadhyay wrote:
 Count me in when we have this discussion as this is something we too 
 are working on.

Which one, the media controller library, or Android ?

 On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:47 PM Laurent Pinchart wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 July 2012 14:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
   As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
  
  Great news!
  
   The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, 
   just before the LinuxCon North America.
   
   In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on 
   participate, and to get proposals about what subjects will be 
   discussed there, in order to start planning the agenda.
  
  Sakari and I will spend time on the long-awaited media controller 
  library in a couple of weeks, I hope to have results to present during the 
  summit.
  
  Depending on the audience, I would also be interested in getting 
  feedback from SoC vendors who are not (yet) active in the V4L2 
  community on our approach and how we could best help them. This 
  could include discussions about Android, as I believe we need to push V4L2 
  on that platform.
  Guennadi's recent work on an Android V4L2 camera library is a good 
  first step in that direction.

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Laurent Pinchart
laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com wrote:
 Another ambiguity for your list: what should a driver return in TRY_FMT/S_FMT
 if the requested format is not supported (possible behaviours include
 returning the currently selected format or a default format).

Whatever gets decided in terms of eliminating the ambiguity, we should
definitely do a v4l2-compliance test for this.  I've seen drivers in
the past that return -EINVAL if the requested format is not supported
(which resulted in various userland apps inventing their own
workarounds over the years).

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-17 Thread Guennadi Liakhovetski
Hi Mauro

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
 before the LinuxCon North America.
 
 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
 in order to start planning the agenda.

I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing 
some work on V4L DT bindings, but so far it very much looks like I won't 
be able to do so unfortunately.

Thanks
Guennadi

 
 Thanks!
 Mauro
 
  Mensagem original 
 Assunto: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel 
 Summit
 Data: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:08 -0400
 De: Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
 Para: James Bottomley james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com
 CC: ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel 
 linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
 
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:09:15AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  We have set aside the second day of the kernel summit (Tuesday 28
  August) as mini-summit day.  So far we have only the PCI mini summit on
  this day, so if you can think of other topics, please send them to the
  kernel summit discuss list:
  
  ksummit-2012-disc...@lists.linux-foundation.org
  
  Looking at the available rooms, we think we can run about four or five
  mini summits.
  
  As an added incentive, mini summit organisers get to pick who they
  invite and all the people they pick will get an automatic invitation to
  the third day of the kernel summit (but not the core first day) and the
  evening events.
 
 OK, so far I believe I've heard concrete suggestions from identified
 (or fairly well identified :-) stuckees willing to organize
 mini-summits for:
 
 * ARM
 * Media
 * PCI
 * memcg
 
 I may have missed some, so if people could send a message to the
 discuss list with [MINI-SUMMIT] in the subbject line and the name of
 the proposed mini-summit, that would be really helpful.  Please
 indicate whether you are volunteering to help organize the proposed
 mini-summit, or identify someone you think can be volunteered.  :-)
 
 Things that we will be asking the mini-summit chars to determine, in
 addition to who should be given invites for Tuesday and Wednesday is
 an estimate of how much time you need, and a list of sub-topics (and
 who might lead the sub-topic discussion).  We will be asking you to
 create a fairly well-defined schedule, with 30 and 60 minute slots, so
 that we can publish a schedule and so that people who might need to
 hop between mini-summits, have a chance to do so.  So please start
 thinking about how long each of your sub-topics will need to be, and
 who might be needed for a particular sub-topic's discussion to be
 successful.  There may be a number of developers, with fingers in
 multiple subsystem, where scheduling may become a bit of a challenge.
 
 Thanks!!
 
   - Ted
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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-17 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Steven,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 13:49:43 Steven Toth wrote:
  As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
 
 Excellent.
 
  The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
  before the LinuxCon North America.
  
  In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
  and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
  in order to start planning the agenda.
 
 I'm interested. I like the idea of some cross-subsystem pollination, talking
 with the ALSA people for example ...

That's very much in line with the KS/LPC spirit, I'd like to see that happen 
as well. We've been talking about media controller support in ALSA for ages 
:-)

 and given that ARM is growing, I'd like to catch up and understand where ARM
 silicon is heading in terms of embedded video decoding and any support for
 hardware specific features we may / may not have / need.

Information about future directions is unfortunately usually private, but we 
can always ask. To be honest I sometimes feel like even SoC vendors themselves 
don't know where they're heading to :-) If only that, a presentation about the 
latest media-related hardware developments on ARM would be good to get 
everybody up to speed.

 ... and of course, if we have anyone from Intel then we should be asking
 if/when their Intel Media SDK (hardware H264  encoding) is going to become a
 reality, or possibly kickstart that process.

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-17 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Guennadi,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 21:51:02 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.
  
  The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just
  before the LinuxCon North America.
  
  In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate,
  and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there,
  in order to start planning the agenda.
 
 I'd love to attend, especially since, as you have seen, I've started doing
 some work on V4L DT bindings,

As you already know, that's a topic I'm very interested in. DT bindings will 
likely involve rethinking how the V4L2 core and V4L2 drivers instantiate 
subdevices, a media summit would have been a good occasion to discuss that. 
However, we probably need an RFC to start with.

 but so far it very much looks like I won't be able to do so unfortunately.

:-/

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Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-17 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Mauro,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 14:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.

Great news!

 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just before
 the LinuxCon North America.
 
 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate, and to
 get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there, in order to start
 planning the agenda.

Sakari and I will spend time on the long-awaited media controller library in a 
couple of weeks, I hope to have results to present during the summit.

Depending on the audience, I would also be interested in getting feedback from 
SoC vendors who are not (yet) active in the V4L2 community on our approach and 
how we could best help them. This could include discussions about Android, as 
I believe we need to push V4L2 on that platform. Guennadi's recent work on an 
Android V4L2 camera library is a good first step in that direction.

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RE: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: [Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

2012-07-17 Thread Palash Bandyopadhyay
Count me in when we have this discussion as this is something we too are 
working on.

Rgds,
Palash

-Original Message-
From: workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org 
[mailto:workshop-2011-boun...@linuxtv.org] On Behalf Of Laurent Pinchart
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:47 PM
To: workshop-2...@linuxtv.org
Cc: Linux Media Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Workshop-2011] Media summit at the Kernel Summit - was: Fwd: Re: 
[Ksummit-2012-discuss] Organising Mini Summits within the Kernel Summit

Hi Mauro,

On Tuesday 17 July 2012 14:30:53 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 As we did in 2012, we're planning to do a media summit again at KS/2012.

Great news!

 The KS/2012 will happen in San Diego, CA, US, between Aug 26-28, just 
 before the LinuxCon North America.
 
 In order to do it, I'd like to know who is interested on participate, 
 and to get proposals about what subjects will be discussed there, in 
 order to start planning the agenda.

Sakari and I will spend time on the long-awaited media controller library in a 
couple of weeks, I hope to have results to present during the summit.

Depending on the audience, I would also be interested in getting feedback from 
SoC vendors who are not (yet) active in the V4L2 community on our approach and 
how we could best help them. This could include discussions about Android, as I 
believe we need to push V4L2 on that platform. Guennadi's recent work on an 
Android V4L2 camera library is a good first step in that direction.

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Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


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