Linux-Misc Digest #340
Linux-Misc Digest #340, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 05:13:01 EST Contents: Re: USB Scanner? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Andre John Mas) Re: Moving Linux from one hard drive to another (Jim Parker) Re: USB Scanner? (Andre John Mas) Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? (Andre John Mas) Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Grant Edwards) Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? (Grant Edwards) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Grant Edwards) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ("Matt O'Toole") reiserfs and quota ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick") Re: can't ssh except as root! (Carolyn Jean Fairman) QRPFF Source Code (Steve Withers) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Steve Withers) KDE's panel problems? (Jiying) Re: Need file from RPM (Runu Knips) LOCAL: Linux-based PDA Demo in Davis, CA (William Kendrick) amanda and reiserfs ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick") Re: Moving Linux from one hard drive to another ("Eric") Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 (Christoph Kukulies) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: USB Scanner? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:16:15 GMT John Scudder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a USB Scanner work under Linux? Depends on which one... Check out www.mostang.com/sane Kris John -- From: Andre John Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:17:45 GMT Hi, I have seen a number of products, such a CodeWarrior and Flash 5 that indicates that they require RedHat Linux version. Is this just a way of saying "it will run on other Linuxes, but we won't support you" or will these programs genuinly not run on other Linux distributions, for example on SuSE. Andre -- From: Jim Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving Linux from one hard drive to another Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:26:51 -0500 Eric wrote: I recently added a second hard drive to my computer and, using Partition Magic V4, copied all (almost - more about that in a minute) of the Linux partitions from the master hard drive (hda) to the new slave (hdb) an resized them larger. Then I brought up Linux on hda and mounted the hdb copy of the root partition and modified that partition's /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab to point to the hdb versions of the partitions (except for the 'almost'). I then created a boot floppy with lilo to boot the hdb copy of Linux and it came up OK. First question: This almost seems too easy. Is that all there is to it? Yes, nice heh :-) (But check with `mount` that no hda partitions are used) I want to delete the hda Linux partitions so that I can increase the Win95 and OS/2 partitions I have on the first drive but I don't want to do it until I'm sure there isn't some problem lurking in some hidden corner. The hidden corners belong to windows, not to linux ;-) Second question: The 'almost' I referred to was the swap partition. Partition Magic has documentation that says it has full support for Linux ext2 and swap partitions. Except, it seems, that you can't do anything with a Linux swap partition except delete it. Partition Magic had all other options greyed out or missing regarding swap partitions. Couldn't copy, move, resize or create a Linux swap partition. So, for now, Linux on hdb is pointing to the swap partition on hda. How can I create a Linux swap partition without making Partition Magic think that the partition table is corrupt? Creating a partition with Linux fdisk won't do. That leaves the entire disk "bad" to Partition Magic and results in fdisk for OS/2, DOS and Win95 useless even for the other hard drive. All three fail to come up once you've used Linux fdisk to create a partition. Then you do something wrong I have absolutely no problem with any DOS/Win98/WinNT on partitiontables created solely with the help of linux' fdisk. (I don't have OS/2, but it should not be different) You must however take in consideration that PM is very strict on what is allowed in a partition table. As long as you stick to those restrictions, you're OK. Usually it's just so that different CHS values are used. Check what PM uses, and verify that linux thinks the same. If not, don't use linux fdisk. If they are equal, use cfdisk (instead of fdisk). Eric PM documentation says for error #120: "This error occurs under some OSs when logical partitions are not chained together in the expected order. DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, and Windows NT require that logical partitions be chained together in ascending order. ... Some versions of Linux FDISK utility chain logical partitions together in the order they are created..." Note particularly "Some versions." Perhaps your version is different. Jim
Linux-Misc Digest #341
Linux-Misc Digest #341, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 07:13:01 EST Contents: Re: (LESS HUGE) Re: Do I need Lilo to boot from a partition? ("Eric") Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 ("Tauno Voipio") Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 ("Eric") Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports ("Mad@Spammers") RH 7.0 sound card not working (Siva) Re: cross-posting (M. Buchenrieder) Re: wine desktop (Glitch) Re: QRPFF Source Code (Glitch) logging options in named.conf ("Darren Davison") Newbie: Video Modes ("Lee") Re: Newbie: Video Modes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) magicfilter vs apsfilter ("max barwell") Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: "Eric" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (LESS HUGE) Re: Do I need Lilo to boot from a partition? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:29:24 +0100 Just one thing, I checked one of your old posts, lilo.conf had *no* entry for a 2.4 kernel. You are aware of that? (I know you said it is the default option, but please check again) So: Are you sure the new kernel is at /vmlinuz c'n'p lilo.conf: verbose=3 delay = 50 boot=/dev/sdb1 map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b root=/dev/sdb1 prompt default=default # the default kernel image to use image=/vmlinuz label=default read-only # the stable kernel image to use image=/vmlinuz-2.2.14 label=linux read-only # A test kernel image=/vmlinuz-2.2.14-new label=test read-only # End lilo.conf The entire chain must be correct. If you link several bootloaders in a chain, it's hard to say where it goes wrong. I have another idea for you, if you can, try to change the boot-order. See if you can boot linux directly, without the intervention from another OS's bootloader. How do I do that? Change the boot order in the BIOS. Set it to boot from the linux disk. You're sure that you're looking at the right LILO code (not the old code)? When you install the new kernel, you get "no setup signature found" When exactly does this message appear? I've tried the latest lilos I could find and compiled them from source. I've thinking about trying an RPM or something just to see if my compiler setup is wierd. Most things I compile all work fine though, and the lilo compile and install goes fine. At least no compilation errors are reported. Then I doubt that's the problem. Any of the other linux-kernel images still are bootable, right The last lilo I've installed is 21.7. I have had many lilo versions installed on that disk. As I indicated in a previous post, this disk has had Linux on it for quite a while. What happens is I get OS/2 Bootmanager. I pick the "LINUX" selection. At that point LILO starts up and I get the LILO "GUI" with the three kernel selections. I pick the option for the 2.4.x kernel which is default. Then I get something like this: LILO Loading default. ... no setup signature found. Then the system hangs. I'm not sure of the exact number of dots. You're done with LILO. It looks like the kernel image itself has a problem. It is odd though that it does boot at another system. Does that system have the same physical setup? Perhaps you should try to run `badblocks` on hdb. I really don't know what the message means, but you I can tell it comes from the kernel /bootstrings vmlinuz |grep setup No setup signature found ... /usr/src/linuxfind . -type f -exec grep -wi "setup signature" {} \; -a -print no_sig_mess:.ascii "No setup signature found ..." ! Setup signature -- must be last ./arch/i386/boot/setup.S no_sig_mess:.ascii "No setup signature found ..." ! Setup signature -- must be last ./arch/i386/boot/bsetup.s Binary file ./arch/i386/boot/bsetup.o matches ./arch/i386/boot/bsetup.o Binary file ./arch/i386/boot/bsetup matches ./arch/i386/boot/bsetup Binary file ./arch/i386/boot/bzImage matches ./arch/i386/boot/bzImage (PS. this is for a 2.2.x kernel, maybe things changed for 2.4, but it appears to be a check, to verify that a correct kernel is loaded) I don't know how to solve this, but i'd try the next thing: run a `make mrproper` **beware the .config file is removed! You will need to run the entire configuration again** then rebuild your kernel again, and try that new kernel. Eric -- From: "Tauno Voipio" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:39:51 GMT "Christoph Kukulies" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:98i6ip$bu2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I'm seeing strange things: : : When I install from a 6.1 install/boot floppy containing a 2.2.14 kernel : and partition after the following scheme: : : /boot /dev/hda1 16 MB : / /dev/hda7 3.2 GB : swap /dev/hda5 512 MB : /data /dev/hda6 35.5 GB (or whatever the rest to 41 GB is - disk is an : IBM-DTLA-304050 BIOS [Auto] 1024/255/63 CHS=8422
Linux-Misc Digest #342
Linux-Misc Digest #342, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 09:13:01 EST Contents: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? (Gerald Willmann) Re: Newbie: Video Modes ("Lee") Re: Newbie: Video Modes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? (LFessen106) Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 (Christoph Kukulies) Re: Newbie: Video Modes ("Lee") Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall (Stearns28) Re: Help! partitioning woes with RH 6.1 ("Eric") How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Stephane Bourdeaud") Compiling (linking) MAME under RH7? ("Simon B. Nielsen") From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:37:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:20:06 -0800 Matt O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | "Grant Edwards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message | news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... | | In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andre John Mas wrote: | | I have seen a number of products, such a CodeWarrior and Flash 5 that | indicates that they require RedHat Linux version. Is this just a way | of saying "it will run on other Linuxes, but we won't support you" or | will these programs genuinly not run on other Linux distributions, for | example on SuSE. | | It usually means that | | 1) You need glibc (or other library) versions = what was shipped | with that version of RH. | | 2) The app assumes certain things about the file-system layout. | | If you can satisfy those two constraints the program will almost certainly | run. | | You are correct, sir. However, I think that in most cases, it's just easier | to install the preferred kind of Linux; than, say, to wrestle with the inner | workings of Oracle or something. But why do companies centralize around particular distributions when there are plenty of people willing to repackage for other distributions? I imagine it is because some companies are unwilling to give out their source code that may well include full pathnames, and cannot be bothered to support more than one distribution, so they pick the one that they perceive to have the largest number of users that are likely to want to use their product. Alternatively, perhaps not all distributions follow the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard perfectly, and they cannot bother to deal with all the differences. In almost all cases, distribution (as opposed to kernel or library) dependencies are in the installation script, or the packaging they used, as opposed to the actual program (which is often made for many different UNIX systems, so is generally fairly portable in the core). I know in some cases, though, the differences in the libraries cause the problem. When trying to run IBM DB2 UDB V6.1, it would work on the glibc-2.1.1 version, but would put several of the servers into an infinite loop with the glibc-2.1.3 version so Linux would not even boot up (because DB2 is started in /etc/rc.d/init.d). IBM claimed that this was due to a bug in Red Hat's version of glibc-2.1.3 and IBM put out a service pack that could be installed to overcome this. The service pack is a download of over 100 megabytes and it sure took a long time to download over my 56.6K dial-up connection. Even then, there were a lot of difficulties, since the service pack could not be installed until the older version of DB2 was installed, and it could not be installed because of the bug, so you had to do a lot of monkey-motion to partly install the old version of DB2 and then install the fix-pack. I imagine IBM would not have wished to do that with more than one distribution. Is it because they made some deal with the people at Redhat to be able to call them up if they get stuck on some issue? I can see that at some small software house that can't afford to hire a couple Linux experts. But Oracle? I guess Larry made his billions by being stingy. I never tried Oracle, but I used to work for a large company that made computers, and large software systems (UNIX OS for various machines, C compilation system (compilers, libraries, run-time packages), ditto for C++, etc.) and it was really tough, even though we presumably had THE authoritative authors of those things working for us, just getting the stuff to work for the machines we built ourselves and the others we used in house, and for our own distributions. The problems with all the different versions of the UNIX OS (there were 12 of our own that we had to support at one time) were probably the biggest problem (other than our marketing ineptitude) in making the UNIX OS a viable commercial product. Several times we tried to reconcile all the different versions of the UNIX OS into just one or two, and we never really succeeded. We tried to do that again with the Berkeley,
Linux-Misc Digest #344
Linux-Misc Digest #344, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 15:13:01 EST Contents: xc problem (Steve Sayler) Re: Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall (John Hasler) Re: Tar for backups - How big? (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Memory and other hardware tests? (Jean-David Beyer) OSS install problems (Andrew McGillis) RPM difficulties (Andrew McGillis) Re: Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall (Vilmos Soti) Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner) Re: can't ssh except as root! (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner) Re: .profile file in Mandrake? (Michael Lee Yohe) Re: switch OS without rebooting? (Michael Lee Yohe) Re: CRC error b4 decompressing kernel? (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner) Re: Newbie: Video Modes (Aelbric) Re: Free Linux account ("Chad Whitten") Re: Small distro install from floppy? (Michael Lee Yohe) Re: USB Scanner? (John Thompson) Re: switch OS without rebooting? (John Thompson) Re: Free ISP for Linux Users? (David Griffith) Re: memory management (Mihai Cartoaje) Re: CRC error b4 decompressing kernel? (Richard Kimber) xawtv config file not applied ("IH") Re: How to release a DHCP lease from a Linux client ("Eric en Jolanda") Cannot uninstall RPM package: get memory alloc NULL (tome anticic) From: Steve Sayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xc problem Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:07:17 -0700 hello, a newbie to this group, and a newbie question I have just inheritied a newly installed redhat linux box and some older 'xc' communications scripts, none seem to work, can you help? one script calls xc like this: /usr/local/bin/xc -lcua1 -s xxx_script I suspect, that this is the old way of selecting the device file, shouldn't it be /dev/??? instead of -lcua1??? thanks, in advance steve -- From: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ipchains vs Checkpoint vs CyberWall Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:26:05 GMT Stearns28 writes: How does IPCHAINS stack up against its counterparts in the Windows world like Checkpoint, CyberWall and others? Linux firewalling is an integral part of the kernel, not a third-party add-on. What features found in commercial packages that IPCHAINS lacks? Backdoors. Also, is hardware firewall better that a software firewall? There is no such thing as a hardware firewall. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tar for backups - How big? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:21:52 -0500 Doug Poulin wrote: If I use tar for backing up data (maybe with -z for compression), and I have about 80GB to backup, what do you suppose the size of the compressed archive might be? I would guess at least 40GB, depending on the degree of compression you can achieve. In my experience, things like jpeg files do not compress much if at all, binary files (i.e., programs) compress quite poorly, databases do not compress well, and ordinary text files compress very well, so it depends on what you are doint. Are there better compression tools I could use? There probably are not any unless you are prepared to write a very sophisticated compressor that can deal with the specific files you are dealing with. That is seldom worth the trouble. I use a tape drive that can optionally compress in hardware. That way, I can use any tape writing program I choose to gather and organize the backup files. If money is no object, get the BRU backup software package, but if money matters, I suggest you seriously consider find (man find) to get the files you want, and cpio (man cpio) to write them onto the tape. I would avoid tar as there are too many problems with error recovery. I know the size of the compressed archive is highly dependent, but even rough ideas would be fine. Thanks. While I'm at it, anyone have any luck with network attached storage and Linux? I never tried it. I use nfs a little bit on my LAN (two machines), but that is about it. I assume NAS looks like nfs to the clients, but I do not really know. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ Registered Machine73926. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 12:15pm up 9 days, 19:20, 3 users, load average: 2.00, 2.06, 2.07 -- From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Memory and other hardware tests? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:29:30 -0500 David wrote: Leonard Evens wrote: We have a dual boot system which runs okay in Linux in level 3 and under Windows 98 in Safe mode. It boots under Linux in level 5 going into X or into Windows, but when you try to do anything it crashes and reboots. I presume there is either a memory problem or a problem with the video card. Where can I find a simple memory check program that is
Linux-Misc Digest #345
Linux-Misc Digest #345, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Re: Hylafax (Faheem Mitha) Re: Need identd for IRC behind firewall? (Lloyd Sumpter) jpeg - ps (Neil Zanella) Re: jpeg - ps ("Matt O'Toole") Re: Tk based alarm clock (* Tong *) Re: Small distro install from floppy? (Stan McCann) CD incremental Backup strategy (* Tong *) Re: jpeg - ps (Bob Tennent) mhstore/OE attachment conflict (Ray DeGennaro) Re: how to print with GIMP? (Rick) Re: clock one hour ahead (Bill Unruh) Re: Change memory limits for large executable? (Thomas Ruedas) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: *.i386.rpm q? (Mark Stephen) Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Rick) Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faheem Mitha) Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:18:42 - On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:07:17 -0500, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for tutorial / explicit instructions to perform simple fax functions, like receiving faxes and sending faxes and viewing faxes. I have read the HylaFAX Howto and it doesn't really tell how to use it. It basically tells how to set it up. Also the other doc on their site is also about setting it up basically and not using it for simple purposes. It seems complicated to set it up with all the options Have you considered using a simpler program, like Efax ( http://casas.ee.ubc.ca/efax ) by Ed Casas ? This is a nice little ANSi C program which probably does all you want, if you have a simple stand-alone setup and your needs are not demanding. I gave up on Hylafax when it refused to recognise either of two different modems (one of them, the current one, is the external and very standard SupraExpress 56k modem). Efax worked with both and without any fuss (you run it from the command line). Also, Hylafax is horribly complicated to configure, and doesn't really seem worth it unless you have heavy-duty faxing needs. Sincerely, Faheem Mitha. -- From: Lloyd Sumpter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: Need identd for IRC behind firewall? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:42:28 GMT Thanks: I'll try it! I found a program called masqidentd that was supposed to solve the problem, but it doesn't seem to work (Can't remember the error msg it generates, but it doesn't run, either from the command-line or from inetd). It seems reasonable that an auth request would NOT normally get forwarded, since it's not originated by a machine behind the firewall (ie it's a request, not a reply). For example, if you had httpd running on a machine behind the firewall, an http request would not be forwarded to it (right?). Not that I know anything about identd, though... Lloyd A Younis wrote: i just got a completely different program called bsidentd. i run it on the linux gateway, and i dont think it even passes the ident request to the windows boxes...it just returns an arbitrary string for each request. just go to freshmeat and search for bsidentd (at least thats what i did a few months back). it works really well. In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], D. Stimits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi. I'm trying to use IRC on my Mandrake 7 box (7.2 I believe). When I try to connect to a server, it says I have to run identd. I'm running identd on my machine. I'm behind a firewall, which is another Linux box (Mandrake again) using ipchains. It is also running identd. The user I'm using on my machine is not on the firewall. Is there some setup required for identd? Is there a special command I need for ipchains to allow the IRC server to access my identd? When the IRC server asks for an Ident, does it stop at the firewall,so do I have to have my username on the firewall (I REALLY don't want to!) Lloyd Sumpter I have noticed some popular IRC servers that are broken. I run identd as well, and can even set ipchains to log every auth request. I can connect to non-broken IRC servers that also require identd. But many of the popular efnet servers access identd and fail to see a valid identd (such as irc.prison.net, which isn't a prison). There is nothing you can do on those particular servers since the admins don't seem to care. In terms of identd, just make sure port 113 is open. -- From: Neil Zanella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: jpeg - ps Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:56:56 -0330 Hello, I am using a digital camera instead of a scanner or photocopier to archive some black and white articles as I find it fairly convenient. I would like to know whether there is a tool under Linux for converting jpeg to ps so that I nay print the pages on a
Linux-Misc Digest #346
Linux-Misc Digest #346, Volume #27 Mon, 12 Mar 01 22:13:03 EST Contents: Re: mhstore/OE attachment conflict (Kevin) Re: Statistic data analysis - Linux/PHP/mySQL ("Alex Collins") Re: Tk based alarm clock (Phil Ehrens) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (Grant Edwards) Delay when connecting to pop3 on local server (Warren Bell) Re: Lost my Linux partition - now what? (James D Parker Jr) Re: Moving Linux from one hard drive to another (James D Parker Jr) kwintv-0.8.5 compile problems ("IH") Re: how to print with GIMP? (Robert Krawitz) Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions (John Hasler) Re: C-Media CM8738 board (the softrat) Re: USB Scanner? (the softrat) PHP on RedHat -- MSSQL ("Londonboy") 2 gripes that i can't fix (Glitch) Replacement for windows media player? (vorwart) Re: xawtv config file not applied (Steve Martin) Re: Unexpected behaviour on UDP ports ("Mad@Spammers") From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin) Subject: Re: mhstore/OE attachment conflict Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:11:57 GMT You'll have better luck getting an answer on comp.mail.mh Cheers... -- Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated. -- From: "Alex Collins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions Subject: Re: Statistic data analysis - Linux/PHP/mySQL Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:19:45 - Have you though of setting up a perl script, which could then be run via the cron daemon (crond) every x minutes (or however often you wanted to analyse the results). perl can access the db, and can be made to analyse just about anything, some major companies happen to use it for checking their data for fraud, and today i just found out from slashdot that their is a 7 kline piece of perl that will decode DVD CSS encryption (perhaps an insult to the term encryption!) perl could do it nicely. but you will have to write it yourself. but you can find tutorials on how to do this for free on the net. and example code.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:l.983993841.1474273681@[132.207.49.145]... Hi, I have to build a web page with a questionnaire. People will respond to some questions, then send the results back to me. We already have decided on the PHP4/mySQL/Apache alternative, running on a Linux system (RedHat 6.2). What I'm looking for a an application, running on Linux, which could do data analysis. What I mean is, the system should be able send the responses of the user to an application, running on the server, which would do some medium to advanced statistic analysis on the data, and then send some results back to the user, and store them in the DB too. So, I'm looking for suggestions on how to do this? Is there any Linux application available (free or not) that could automatically get data from a mySQL DB, or any other data source which I could produce using PHP/mySQL, and then do a series of computation, returning the results in my DB or in some other way...? Looks complicated, and I'm open to every suggestions! :) Thank you, Guillaume.Boudreau -- Sent by gboudrea from hotmail part of com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Ehrens) Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: Tk based alarm clock Date: 12 Mar 2001 23:24:31 GMT Reply-To: -@- He means same system -- Let's see... mmm... ps -Ao fname,vsz |grep tclsh... pmap 6514... mumble mumble... count on fingers... Looks like between 250 and 300 Kb for each new interp on both Linux and Solaris. The rest is .so's. Phil * Tong * wrote: "Donal K. Fellows" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Victor Wagner wrote: By the way, it would require perl or Tcl interpreter to stay in memory during all your login session, and this seems to much for just an alarm clock. It depends on whether you already have an interpreter already present. The overhead for a separate interpreter within an already-running process is pretty small... Thanks, Donal. You've answered a question that I wanted to ask. :-) Can you just explain a little bit on the term "already-running process" please? Does it means within same shell, or same user or same X system...? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) Subject: Re: "Requires RedHat" other Linux distributions Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:42:18 GMT In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Is it because they made some deal with the people at Redhat to |be able to call them up if they get stuck on some issue? I can |see that at some small software house that can't afford