Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-08 Thread Tomi Valkeinen
On 07/05/13 22:06, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 12:27:11PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:15:00AM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 But broadly the direction seems that drivers should have minimal
 dependencies so, eg, the thermal maintainer compiling for x86 should
 be able to compile test/static analyze your driver..

 Well, I do not see much of this attempt actually. Do you have some link
 / evidene that shows someone who actually cares about compiling drivers
 for targets that they are not used for? On this specific driver, I
 actually have  had exactly the opposite advice [1]. I am not convinced
 people actually want to do that.

 There was a discussion a bit ago, but I can't find a link.. The
 context was subsystem maintainers are being asked to look after more
 code with the DT transition moving things out of arch/arm and at least
 one complained they couldn't even compile test on x86... But again, I
 can't find a link and you are right, there are lots and lots of
 'depends ARCH..' style things in kConfig already.

 Lets just call it something to think about.
 
 Tomi started a thread related to this recently:
 
   http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=136731558332265w=2
 
 I think there's some good reasons listed there, but I guess up to the
 subsystem maintainers to decide what they prefer.

As Sam pointed out in that thread, there's no need to change the Kconfig
language for this. I did some testing with fb drivers, by having a
CONFIG_ALL_FB_DRIVERS option which removes the arch dependencies for
some fb drivers.

It does uglify the Kconfig files a bit:

-   depends on FB  (SUPERH || ARCH_SHMOBILE)  HAVE_CLK
+   depends on FB  (SUPERH || ARCH_SHMOBILE || ALL_FB_DRIVERS) 
HAVE_CLK

I'm still undecided if I want to pursue this with fb drivers, as it
seems that quite many of them do really depend on the arch code, and I'm
not interested in trying to fix them.

But if other subsystems would benefit of this also, perhaps we could
have a common CONFIG entry that would allow compiling a driver on any
arch. I just can't think of a good name for the config entry =).

 Tomi




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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-07 Thread Eduardo Valentin
Hello Jason,

On 06-05-2013 20:36, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:23:13PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 
 I get the impression it is desired to minimize driver kconfig
 dependencies to the minimum required to compile to increase build
 testing coverage, so maybe it would be appropriate to drop this
 entirely?
 
 Well, it is also desired to compile things to the correct target
 right?
 
 There is some of that too..
 
 But broadly the direction seems that drivers should have minimal
 dependencies so, eg, the thermal maintainer compiling for x86 should
 be able to compile test/static analyze your driver..
 

Well, I do not see much of this attempt actually. Do you have some link
/ evidene that shows someone who actually cares about compiling drivers
for targets that they are not used for? On this specific driver, I
actually have  had exactly the opposite advice [1]. I am not convinced
people actually want to do that.

 Thats the idea behind this config option. It follows the same design as
 CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ, for instance.
 
 That is entirely contained inside arch/arm and doesn't involve
 drivers.

It actually goes outside arch/arm.

 
 Jason
 
 

[1] - https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1185431/



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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-07 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:15:00AM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
  But broadly the direction seems that drivers should have minimal
  dependencies so, eg, the thermal maintainer compiling for x86 should
  be able to compile test/static analyze your driver..

 Well, I do not see much of this attempt actually. Do you have some link
 / evidene that shows someone who actually cares about compiling drivers
 for targets that they are not used for? On this specific driver, I
 actually have  had exactly the opposite advice [1]. I am not convinced
 people actually want to do that.

There was a discussion a bit ago, but I can't find a link.. The
context was subsystem maintainers are being asked to look after more
code with the DT transition moving things out of arch/arm and at least
one complained they couldn't even compile test on x86... But again, I
can't find a link and you are right, there are lots and lots of
'depends ARCH..' style things in kConfig already.

Lets just call it something to think about.

  Thats the idea behind this config option. It follows the same design as
  CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ, for instance.
  
  That is entirely contained inside arch/arm and doesn't involve
  drivers.
 
 It actually goes outside arch/arm.

Hm, must have missed that, seemed like all it did was control
including drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig within the ARM kconfigs.. And
unicore32 copied the name, but did the same thing.

Regards,
Jason
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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-07 Thread Aaro Koskinen
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 12:27:11PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:15:00AM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
   But broadly the direction seems that drivers should have minimal
   dependencies so, eg, the thermal maintainer compiling for x86 should
   be able to compile test/static analyze your driver..
 
  Well, I do not see much of this attempt actually. Do you have some link
  / evidene that shows someone who actually cares about compiling drivers
  for targets that they are not used for? On this specific driver, I
  actually have  had exactly the opposite advice [1]. I am not convinced
  people actually want to do that.
 
 There was a discussion a bit ago, but I can't find a link.. The
 context was subsystem maintainers are being asked to look after more
 code with the DT transition moving things out of arch/arm and at least
 one complained they couldn't even compile test on x86... But again, I
 can't find a link and you are right, there are lots and lots of
 'depends ARCH..' style things in kConfig already.
 
 Lets just call it something to think about.

Tomi started a thread related to this recently:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=136731558332265w=2

I think there's some good reasons listed there, but I guess up to the
subsystem maintainers to decide what they prefer.

A.
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[RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Eduardo Valentin
Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
feature a bandgap device.

Cc: Russell King li...@arm.linux.org.uk
Cc: Tony Lindgren t...@atomide.com
Cc: linux-arm-ker...@lists.infradead.org
Cc: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Eduardo Valentin eduardo.valen...@ti.com
---
 arch/arm/Kconfig| 3 +++
 arch/arm/mach-omap2/Kconfig | 1 +
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+)

diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index f95674a..39fc561 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -176,6 +176,9 @@ config ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ
  and that the relevant menu configurations are displayed for
  it.
 
+config ARCH_HAS_BANDGAP
+   bool
+
 config GENERIC_HWEIGHT
bool
default y
diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/Kconfig b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/Kconfig
index f49cd51..8620ab5 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/Kconfig
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ config ARCH_OMAP
 config ARCH_OMAP2PLUS
bool TI OMAP2/3/4/5 SoCs with device tree support if (ARCH_MULTI_V6 
|| ARCH_MULTI_V7)
select ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ
+   select ARCH_HAS_BANDGAP
select ARCH_HAS_HOLES_MEMORYMODEL
select ARCH_OMAP
select ARCH_REQUIRE_GPIOLIB
-- 
1.8.2.1.342.gfa7285d

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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Aaro Koskinen
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:00:56PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
 boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
 feature a bandgap device.

Maybe it could be mentioned that omap-thermal already depend on this?
At least for a random reviewer it was not immediately clear why this is
added, especially since there were no users for it in subsequent patches.

A.
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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Stephen Warren
On 05/06/2013 03:00 PM, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
 boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
 feature a bandgap device.

What does this patch have to do with device tree (there's dts in the
subject)? What's a BANDGAP device?
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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 12:34:13AM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:00:56PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
  Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
  boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
  feature a bandgap device.
 
 Maybe it could be mentioned that omap-thermal already depend on this?
 At least for a random reviewer it was not immediately clear why this is
 added, especially since there were no users for it in subsequent patches.

I looked (very briefly), and it seemed like omap-thermal is self
contained and doesn't need arch support?

I get the impression it is desired to minimize driver kconfig
dependencies to the minimum required to compile to increase build
testing coverage, so maybe it would be appropriate to drop this
entirely?

Jason
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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Eduardo Valentin
On 06-05-2013 17:34, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:00:56PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
 boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
 feature a bandgap device.
 
 Maybe it could be mentioned that omap-thermal already depend on this?
 At least for a random reviewer it was not immediately clear why this is
 added, especially since there were no users for it in subsequent patches.
 
 A.
 
 
The flag has been proposed here [1]. The adaptation on the driver has
been introduced here [2,3]. It has reached the staging (next) tree. That
is why you do not see any follow up patch. Although it does not have
users at v3.9, the patch on the user has been sent several weeks ago.

[1] -
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-May/101827.html
[2] - http://marc.info/?l=linux-omapm=136335347305197w=2
[3] - http://marc.info/?l=linux-driver-develm=136335404205514w=1



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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Eduardo Valentin
On 06-05-2013 17:31, Stephen Warren wrote:
 On 05/06/2013 03:00 PM, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
 boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
 feature a bandgap device.
 
 What does this patch have to do with device tree (there's dts in the
 subject)? What's a BANDGAP device?
 
 
In fact, this one has nothing to do with DT. dts in the title is a typo..





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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Eduardo Valentin
On 06-05-2013 18:36, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 12:34:13AM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:00:56PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
 Introduce HAS_BANDGAP config entry. This config is a
 boolean value so that arch code can flag is they
 feature a bandgap device.

 Maybe it could be mentioned that omap-thermal already depend on this?
 At least for a random reviewer it was not immediately clear why this is
 added, especially since there were no users for it in subsequent patches.
 
 I looked (very briefly), and it seemed like omap-thermal is self
 contained and doesn't need arch support?
 

It is. At least I tried to make it, at least to the extenstion I could get.

 I get the impression it is desired to minimize driver kconfig
 dependencies to the minimum required to compile to increase build
 testing coverage, so maybe it would be appropriate to drop this
 entirely?
 

Well, it is also desired to compile things to the correct target right?
Thats the idea behind this config option. It follows the same design as
CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ, for instance.

 Jason
 
 




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Re: [RESEND][PATCH 1/3] arm: dts: introduce config HAS_BANDGAP

2013-05-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:23:13PM -0400, Eduardo Valentin wrote:

  I get the impression it is desired to minimize driver kconfig
  dependencies to the minimum required to compile to increase build
  testing coverage, so maybe it would be appropriate to drop this
  entirely?

 Well, it is also desired to compile things to the correct target
 right?

There is some of that too..

But broadly the direction seems that drivers should have minimal
dependencies so, eg, the thermal maintainer compiling for x86 should
be able to compile test/static analyze your driver..

 Thats the idea behind this config option. It follows the same design as
 CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPUFREQ, for instance.

That is entirely contained inside arch/arm and doesn't involve
drivers.

Jason
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