Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] ASoC: davinci: HDMI audio build for AM33XX and TDA998x

2014-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:13:09 +0300
Jyri Sarha jsa...@ti.com wrote:

  So, Jean-Francois is also trying to do things with the TDA998x - what's
  the story with that, is this joined up at all?
 
 Not really. This basic functionality does not touch tda998x at all on 
 the fly, but just sets i2s configuation in the beginning and bangs the 
 bits trough McASP. But as long as the old platform data for tda998x 
 still works after Jean-Francois' patches I should be safe.

It should. And you may test it.

 The problem with the Jean-Francois' patches is the DT support. The BBB 
 HDMI video is implemented trough tilcdc-slave mechanism without a DT 
 node for the tda encoder, which renders Jean-Francois' approach unusable 
 for BBB.

I used the TDA998x with DT support for a long time with a hack by using
parts of drm_i2c_encoder_init(). Now, I think that this function could
be used as it is just setting no platform_data in info.

 The whole tilcdc slave approach may not be the most elegant way to use 
 the tda driver, but it does not look like it is going to change any time 
 soon.

Right: I proposed a patch for that and it was rejected.

 Best regards,
 Jyri
 
 ps. I have been thinking on something similar to Jean-Francois' patch 
 for SiI9022 which I have been working on lately. Also I have been 
 wondering if it would be possible to come up with a generic ASoC codec 
 component driver or library that could be used with any HDMI encoder to 
 produce the ASoC codec component. Unfortunately I am in too early stage 
 to produce anything more concrete.

Here are some thoughts about this topic.

The video and audio worlds don't know about each other.
The only solution I found is to let the encoder create the codec as
a child device. Then, the codec knows from which encoder it depends.
This could have been done using Russell's components, but the codec
should have been declared in the DT. This is not useful.

The codec interacts with the encoder in 2 ways:
- it uses the HDMI parameters retrieved by the encoder,
- it gives the audio source type to the encoder.
I used exported functions for that, but, for a generic codec, theses
functions could be given through the codec platform_data.

The codec declares the DAI(s) prior to know the encoder. The DAI table
must be in the codec because of the snd_soc_dai_ops.
For a generic codec, this DAI table could be built dynamically from
information (name, id) also given through the codec platform_data.

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Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] ASoC: davinci: HDMI audio build for AM33XX and TDA998x

2014-09-18 Thread Jyri Sarha

On 09/18/2014 11:25 AM, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:13:09 +0300
 Jyri Sarha jsa...@ti.com wrote:

 So, Jean-Francois is also trying to do things with the TDA998x - what's
 the story with that, is this joined up at all?

 Not really. This basic functionality does not touch tda998x at all on
 the fly, but just sets i2s configuation in the beginning and bangs the
 bits trough McASP. But as long as the old platform data for tda998x
 still works after Jean-Francois' patches I should be safe.

 It should. And you may test it.


I tested by BBB HDMI audio patches with [PATCH v5] ASoC: tda998x: Add
a codec to the HDMI transmitter, and it works otherwise, but the
default for CTS_N_K has changed from 3 to 2. I just needed to change the
supported format from S32_LE to S24_LE to compensate the change.

 The problem with the Jean-Francois' patches is the DT support. The BBB
 HDMI video is implemented trough tilcdc-slave mechanism without a DT
 node for the tda encoder, which renders Jean-Francois' approach unusable
 for BBB.

 I used the TDA998x with DT support for a long time with a hack by using
 parts of drm_i2c_encoder_init(). Now, I think that this function could
 be used as it is just setting no platform_data in info.

 The whole tilcdc slave approach may not be the most elegant way to use
 the tda driver, but it does not look like it is going to change any time
 soon.

 Right: I proposed a patch for that and it was rejected.


The tilcdc is not actively maintained by anybody ATM and that is why
it is so hard to make any bigger changes to it. I hope we can change
this at some point, but for now I am just trying to get a simple HDMI
audio working on BBB with minimal changes.

 Best regards,
 Jyri

 ps. I have been thinking on something similar to Jean-Francois' patch
 for SiI9022 which I have been working on lately. Also I have been
 wondering if it would be possible to come up with a generic ASoC codec
 component driver or library that could be used with any HDMI encoder to
 produce the ASoC codec component. Unfortunately I am in too early stage
 to produce anything more concrete.

 Here are some thoughts about this topic.

 The video and audio worlds don't know about each other.
 The only solution I found is to let the encoder create the codec as
 a child device. Then, the codec knows from which encoder it depends.
 This could have been done using Russell's components, but the codec
 should have been declared in the DT. This is not useful.


There is anothere option of putting the ASoC codec code into an ASoC
library module and registering the ASoC codec component under the HDMI
encoder device. However, this approach does not allow building the
ASoC as modules if the HDMI encoder driver is built in. So a separate
platform device for the codec component is probably better.

 The codec interacts with the encoder in 2 ways:
 - it uses the HDMI parameters retrieved by the encoder,
 - it gives the audio source type to the encoder.
 I used exported functions for that, but, for a generic codec, theses
 functions could be given through the codec platform_data.

 The codec declares the DAI(s) prior to know the encoder. The DAI table
 must be in the codec because of the snd_soc_dai_ops.
 For a generic codec, this DAI table could be built dynamically from
 information (name, id) also given through the codec platform_data.


This is pretty much what I have been thinking too. The API between the
generic ASoC HDMI codec could use already existing the linux headers
derived HDMI standard. The ASoC side code should build the hdmi audio
infoframe and configure the stream header bits etc, so basically do
all the generic stuff coming from HDMI standard. Writing the bits
to the appropriate registers in the encoder chip would be left to the
HDMI encoder driver.

Best regards,
Jyri

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Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] ASoC: davinci: HDMI audio build for AM33XX and TDA998x

2014-09-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:40:17PM +0300, Jyri Sarha wrote:
 Adds configuration option for HDMI audio support for AM33XX based
 boards with NXP TDA998x HDMI transmitter. The audio is connected to
 NXP TDA998x trough McASP running in i2s mode.

So, Jean-Francois is also trying to do things with the TDA998x - what's
the story with that, is this joined up at all?


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Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] ASoC: davinci: HDMI audio build for AM33XX and TDA998x

2014-09-17 Thread Jyri Sarha

On 09/17/2014 10:41 PM, Mark Brown wrote:

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:40:17PM +0300, Jyri Sarha wrote:

Adds configuration option for HDMI audio support for AM33XX based
boards with NXP TDA998x HDMI transmitter. The audio is connected to
NXP TDA998x trough McASP running in i2s mode.


So, Jean-Francois is also trying to do things with the TDA998x - what's
the story with that, is this joined up at all?



Not really. This basic functionality does not touch tda998x at all on 
the fly, but just sets i2s configuation in the beginning and bangs the 
bits trough McASP. But as long as the old platform data for tda998x 
still works after Jean-Francois' patches I should be safe.


The problem with the Jean-Francois' patches is the DT support. The BBB 
HDMI video is implemented trough tilcdc-slave mechanism without a DT 
node for the tda encoder, which renders Jean-Francois' approach unusable 
for BBB.


The whole tilcdc slave approach may not be the most elegant way to use 
the tda driver, but it does not look like it is going to change any time 
soon.


Best regards,
Jyri

ps. I have been thinking on something similar to Jean-Francois' patch 
for SiI9022 which I have been working on lately. Also I have been 
wondering if it would be possible to come up with a generic ASoC codec 
component driver or library that could be used with any HDMI encoder to 
produce the ASoC codec component. Unfortunately I am in too early stage 
to produce anything more concrete.


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