RE: External array showing as /dev/sda

2010-03-22 Thread Frank Wang
Hi David,
We used to have similar problem in our R710 when the 6x750G RAID5
array exceeded the 2T boundary. We used an usbstick(2G) as the /boot
partition and put grub on that to boot the Centos. Then anaconda won't
complain the huge GPT partition anymore.
The usbstick can be plugged into the internal usb socket in the
chassis, saving the trouble mishandled accidentally. Even the
stability of an usbstick is usually not as good as a hard disk, you
can always save a backup one, it's so cheap nowadays after all.

Regards,
Frank Wang

On Mon, March 22, 2010 4:59 am, David Hubbard wrote:
 From: Behalf Of J. Epperson

 I'm somehow missing how getting the non-installable smaller
 GPT VD to be /dev/sda will change that scenario. The other
 responder echoed one of my initial thoughts when he suggested
 turning off the external array.  That should do it.

 If I could get the internal raid controller to be
 /dev/sda, then the RHEL/centos installer will not
 care about the fact that the external array is
 too big and would require GPT to boot off of, then
 the installer would let me proceed.   It was only
 an issue with it being /dev/sda since that made the
 installer think there was no way to writen an MBR
 and boot off of it.

 But, unplugging external did lead me the right direcation.
 What I've had to do is this:

 1) Internal array I had desired to be single RAID 50
 across 8 drives.  Thanks to Dell's choice of LSI
 for their current raid controllers and LSI missing
 the feature that most others seem to have in being
 able to present parts of one array as multiple
 logical drives, I ended up having to waste the first
 two drives to make a RAID 1 mirror smaller than 2 TB
 and then only six remaining drives in the RAID 50.

 2) Unplugged the external array and installed centos
 using normal non-GPT boot to the raid 1 virtual
 drive.  It installed to /dev/sda.

 3) After install, edit /boot/grub/device.map and
 changed it to show:

 (hd0) /dev/sdb

 Then:

 grub
 grub device (hd0) /dev/sda
 device (hd0) /dev/sda
 grub root (hd0,0)
 root (hd0,0)
  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
 grub setup (hd0)
 setup (hd0)
  Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no
  Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes
  Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes
  Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes
  Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)...  15 sectors are embedded.
 succeeded
  Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2
 /grub/grub.conf... succeeded
 Done.


 4) Reboot, connect external array while server is
 rebooting, comes back up and boots off of internal
 array from bios, grub is happy because now it is
 set up for /dev/sdb.

 Only downside to this situation is if something were
 to fail and take the external array down the server
 won't boot since internal will go back to being
 /dev/sda.  But if the external array is down then
 we've got issues anyway. :-)


 Thanks,

 David

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Re: omreport storage: are all possible output values documented?

2010-03-22 Thread Giulio Orsero
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 06:20,  mohan_g_mur...@dell.com wrote:

 e.g., to find the possible states and properties of an Virtual Disk you
 can find under the Virtual Disk Properties section
 (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/6.2/en/OMSS/vdm
 gmt.htm#wp1424964 )of the user guide.

Unfortunately this is more geared towards the GUI front-end.

For instance, for the status the table says Warning/non-critical,
but I think in the omreport output I might see either Warning or
non-critical but not Warning/non-critical, right?

I downloaded the script Ben pointed to, and that contains a reference
of possible values.

The problem now is that I tested OMSA 5.5.0, 6.1.0, 6.2.0 and the
position of the columns using -fmt ssv keeps changing, the names of
the columns do the same (ie: Type - Bus Protocol); ideally this
could be documented too, but this I can easily test by running
omreport once for every OMSA version and checking the differences.

Thanks

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Re: External array showing as /dev/sda

2010-03-22 Thread J. Epperson
On Mon, March 22, 2010 00:22, Matt Domsch wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 03:17:52PM -0400, David Hubbard wrote:
 Got a PowerEdge T510 with internal raid
 plus an H800 controller hooked to an MD1200
 external array.  Trying to install centos;
 raid controllers are

 bus 2 device 0 internal
 bus 7 device 0 external

 During setup its identifying /dev/sda as
 external storage which I don't want.  Is
 there anything I can tweak to make it
 detect the storage in an order that
 results in the internal being /dev/sda?

 Aside from the great suggestions in this thread already (install with
 the external enclosure disconnected, make sure BIOS boot order is set
 to use the internal disk first, set up your initrd to load drivers for
 the internal disk controller first), there's yet another trick which
 Dell included in Anaconda exactly to handle this...

 http://linux.dell.com/installermagic.shtml

 The interesting part is this kickstart directive:

 part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=1844 --onbiosdisk=80 --asprimary

 where 80 is the (hex) value for the first int13 disk.  And of course
 you set the int13 disk order in BIOS SETUP (or using DTK).

 The magic bit is that you really want to use parted or fdisk to first
 create an empty partition table on every (logical) disk in the system.
 You don't want to just write zeros to the MBR of every disk.  parted
 and fdisk know how to fill in a unique signature in the appropriate
 MBR field, which anaconda uses to recognize and pair up the BIOS list
 of disks with the Linux list of disks.


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MD3000

2010-03-22 Thread Stephen Hunt
Hello,

I didn't see a specific email list for the MD3000 DAS with Linux (or the
MD3000 in general); is this a good place to ask questions about it?

Thanks,

-Stephen

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Re: swapping RAID1 disk and hot-swap disk for restore image test

2010-03-22 Thread Gernot Hassenpflug
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:37 PM,  patrick_fisc...@dell.com wrote:

 No trouble.
 Best is to power down the system - remove the raid 1 disks at least that
 the disk have no connection to the backplane.
 Test what you want to test- with the single disk as raid 0.
 After that delete the raid 0 reinsert the disks = import the foreign
 config and it will work as before
 IF you are work remote only, I would set the raid 1 disks to offline =
 if you reenable it, set only one disk online and set the 2nd in a
 rebuild state. (this you can do after the os has started to see if all
 is fine and the 2nd mirrored disk can be used separately in worst case
 scenarios..)

Thank you for the instructions, after several messages in this thread
the various options are becoming clearer. Yes, we will do the work
remotely this time. Feedback on how this worked later in the week!
Regards,
Gernot Hassenpflug

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R710 w/ Mixed SSD + SAS Drives

2010-03-22 Thread Jefferson Cowart
Does anyone have an R710 with a mixture of SAS + SSD drives? I'm trying
to build one using a pair of SAS drives for the OS/applications and 4
SSDs for an Oracle database. The R710 documentation
(http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/server-poweredge
-r710-tech-guidebook.pdf - Pages 37-39) seems to say that this is
supported, but I can't get the online configuration tool to let me do
it. My inside sales person is also unable to get it built. Is it
supported to simply buy it with the SAS drives factory installed and buy
the SSDs separately to install myself once it gets here?

-- 
Thank You
Jefferson Cowart
Network and Systems Administrator
Claremont University Consortium



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Re: swapping RAID1 disk and hot-swap disk for restore image test

2010-03-22 Thread Gernot Hassenpflug
Hello all,

I have some worries about the time for rebuilding RAID1 on 300GiB
15000rpm SAS drives from the PERC6 controller. I did not find specific
information on Google searches, but times of 4 hours to approximately
48 hours appear in searches.

I see the PERC6 has a maximum transfer of 300MB/s, but I am not sure
how much will be available for the rebuild, nor what the limitation of
the disks is. I intend to do the rebuild from the BIOS (OS shut off).
What kind of rebuild speeds can I envisage?

We have about 12 hours (till next morning) in which to do the rebuild
provided it can complete successfully, but if possible want to
complete it in 1-2 hours (evening).

Best regards,
Gernot Hassenpflug

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Re: R710 w/ Mixed SSD + SAS Drives

2010-03-22 Thread Jeff Ewing

Which internal controller do you have? 

H700, PERC 6/i, H200 or SAS 6/iR 



On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 07:45:39PM -0700, Jefferson Cowart wrote:
 Does anyone have an R710 with a mixture of SAS + SSD drives? I'm trying
 to build one using a pair of SAS drives for the OS/applications and 4
 SSDs for an Oracle database. The R710 documentation
 (http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/server-poweredge
 -r710-tech-guidebook.pdf - Pages 37-39) seems to say that this is
 supported, but I can't get the online configuration tool to let me do
 it. My inside sales person is also unable to get it built. Is it
 supported to simply buy it with the SAS drives factory installed and buy
 the SSDs separately to install myself once it gets here?
 
 -- 
 Thank You
 Jefferson Cowart
 Network and Systems Administrator
 Claremont University Consortium
 
 
 
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RE: R710 w/ Mixed SSD + SAS Drives

2010-03-22 Thread Jefferson Cowart
My existing R710s have PERC 6/i controllers. However, this is for a new
server so I can go with whatever controller makes this work.

-- 
Thank You
Jefferson Cowart
Network and Systems Administrator
Claremont University Consortium


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Ewing [mailto:jew...@aconex.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 20:43
 To: Jefferson Cowart
 Cc: linux-powere...@lists.us.dell.com
 Subject: Re: R710 w/ Mixed SSD + SAS Drives
 
 
 Which internal controller do you have?
 
 H700, PERC 6/i, H200 or SAS 6/iR
 
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 07:45:39PM -0700, Jefferson Cowart wrote:
  Does anyone have an R710 with a mixture of SAS + SSD drives? I'm
 trying
  to build one using a pair of SAS drives for the OS/applications and
4
  SSDs for an Oracle database. The R710 documentation
  (http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/server-
 poweredge
  -r710-tech-guidebook.pdf - Pages 37-39) seems to say that this is
  supported, but I can't get the online configuration tool to let me
do
  it. My inside sales person is also unable to get it built. Is it
  supported to simply buy it with the SAS drives factory installed and
 buy
  the SSDs separately to install myself once it gets here?
 
  --
  Thank You
  Jefferson Cowart
  Network and Systems Administrator
  Claremont University Consortium
 
 
 
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