Re: Advice for a debian server

[Joshua Miller]

Finally a response that make sense.

To the original question I have over 150 servers .. 2950s, 1950s, r610s, r710s 
and run ubuntu karmic and lucid and only issue I have is a rootdelay option I 
had to add on the ones that have the sas perc6 cards.

Also the new Dell omsa 6.3 packages rock.  Also every time I talk to anyone at 
Dell I ask them for official support.

We run up to date python an after my 100th rpm build to work around old python 
packages on our old distro it just made sense to switch.

On Sep 7, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Kevin Davidson  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Johan Sjöberg  
> wrote:
> 
>> These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth 
>> support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af 
>> deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim 
>> installation. And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite 
>> unneccesary when you use hardware RAID.
> 
> Pardon? These are two very different things. I think you need to do some 
> reading on what LVM can do for you (think snapshots, growing/moving 
> filesystems on live systems etc)
> 
> 
>> 
>> Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is). But Ubuntu is too 
>> edgy to be used in production, I would rather run Debian testing.
> 
> The LTS versions mean exactly that. Long term support. 
> 
>> 
>> The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's 
>> nice to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong, 
>> but it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby 
>> developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.
> 
> Depends on your company policies - many insist on having external support in 
> place for all systems. Or maybe you rely on third party software that is only 
> tested/qualified on RHEL/SLES. 
> 
> All the distributions have different advantages and disadvantages. I'll 
> continue to install the most appropriate for a given situation. 
> 
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Kevin Davidson]

On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Johan Sjöberg  wrote:

> These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth 
> support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af 
> deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim 
> installation. And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite 
> unneccesary when you use hardware RAID.

Pardon? These are two very different things. I think you need to do some 
reading on what LVM can do for you (think snapshots, growing/moving filesystems 
on live systems etc)


> 
> Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is). But Ubuntu is too edgy 
> to be used in production, I would rather run Debian testing.

The LTS versions mean exactly that. Long term support. 

> 
> The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's 
> nice to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 
> it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby 
> developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.

Depends on your company policies - many insist on having external support in 
place for all systems. Or maybe you rely on third party software that is only 
tested/qualified on RHEL/SLES. 

All the distributions have different advantages and disadvantages. I'll 
continue to install the most appropriate for a given situation. 

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Johan Sjöberg]

> -Original Message-
> From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge-
> boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of John Hodrien
> Sent: den 7 september 2010 13:42
> To: linux-poweredge@dell.com
> Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server
> 
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote:
> 
> > Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one...
> 
> Quite, but that doesn't mean you need to rise to it.
> 
> > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants
> Bluetooth
> > support and a desktop environment on a server?
> 
> A single kickstart for what you like and you get what you want with the
> minimum of fuss.  Anyway, why does RHEL have to be for servers.  I use the
> same base OS for servers, desktops, and appliance type devices.  It's all
> good.
> 
> > You need to do a lot af deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a
> > reasonably slim installation.
> 
> Yes, it's not as good as some distros if you want a really tight install, but
> you can get /reasonably/ small, /reasonably/ easily.
> 
> > And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite unneccesary when
> you
> > use hardware RAID.
> 
> No you're not.  LVM is the default, but a couple of clicks during the install
> and you can ignore it entirely.  Also, if you think hardware RAID negates all
> the benefits of LVM then you really don't understand LVM.
> 
> > Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is).
> 
> Sure.  But that doesn't make RHEL unreliable.  They're both much more
> reliable
> than IRIX ;)
> 
> > The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's
> > nice to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
> > but it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby
> > developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.
> 
> Absolutely.  And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like Debian
> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux
> vendors.
> 
> jh

Of course, I'm no Debian fanatic or so, but the statement that RHEL is superior 
was quite provoking. We use RHEL and CentOS on a number of machines. Mostly 
Dell servers, since the Debian support from Dell is near to non-existent, and 
we need OMSA for monitoring the hardware. On HP we generally use Debian, since 
they provide Debian packages of system management applications and drivers.

/Johan

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Michael Zoet]

Am Di, 7.09.2010, 13:50 schrieb Davide Ferrari:
> On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
>> Absolutely.  And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like
>> Debian
>> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux
>> vendors.
>
> That's the point of the F/LOSS ecosystem, isn't it? :)
>

Yes it is. RedHat benefits from Debian development as Debian benefits from
RedHat development. The same for every other distro. So I really do not
understand the point of this discussion. Real nonsense.
I use / had used various Linux distris in the past, present and future on
Dell Hardware. I had good and bad experiences with all of them...

Michael

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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Robin Bowes]

On 07/09/10 13:15, Michael Zoet wrote:
> So I really do not understand the point of this discussion.

Michael,

The point of this discussion is that you get to see who has got their
head screwed on properly, and whose opinion you should take with a pinch
of salt in the future, ie. those who foam at the mouth eulogising about
their own pet distro! :)

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[J. Epperson]

On Tue, September 7, 2010 06:44, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on
>> your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty
>> talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and
>> because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and
>> thus centos), and is a bit more engineered (rather than slapped
>> together with 100mph masking tape) than ubuntu, you might get a lot
>> better mileage out of it.
>
> FYI:
>
> RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable
>  opensource project with hobby developers.
>

Hehehe.

The origin of the Debian name is similar to that of many tattoos.
Red Hat is not named after a Cornell jock strap.



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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Davide Ferrari]

On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
> Absolutely.  And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like
> Debian
> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux
> vendors. 

That's the point of the F/LOSS ecosystem, isn't it? :)

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[John Hodrien]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote:


Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one...


Quite, but that doesn't mean you need to rise to it.


These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth
support and a desktop environment on a server?


A single kickstart for what you like and you get what you want with the
minimum of fuss.  Anyway, why does RHEL have to be for servers.  I use the
same base OS for servers, desktops, and appliance type devices.  It's all
good.


You need to do a lot af deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a
reasonably slim installation.


Yes, it's not as good as some distros if you want a really tight install, but
you can get /reasonably/ small, /reasonably/ easily.


And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite unneccesary when you
use hardware RAID.


No you're not.  LVM is the default, but a couple of clicks during the install
and you can ignore it entirely.  Also, if you think hardware RAID negates all
the benefits of LVM then you really don't understand LVM.


Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is).


Sure.  But that doesn't make RHEL unreliable.  They're both much more reliable
than IRIX ;)


The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's
nice to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby
developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.


Absolutely.  And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like Debian
doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux
vendors.

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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Peter Kjellstrom]

On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote:
> Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one...
>
> These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth
> support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af
> deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim
> installation. And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite
> unneccesary when you use hardware RAID.

Minor correction: You're not forced to use LVM it's only anacondas default 
suggestion to do so.

> Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is). But Ubuntu is too
> edgy to be used in production, I would rather run Debian testing.
>
> The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's
> nice to have commercial support, if you need it.

It can be very nice to use the same dist that the ISVs/IHVs you depend on are 
testing and qualifying on/for (assuming you have such external dependencies).

A 2nd thing to like (and dislike) about *EL dists is the fairly fixed set of 
versions.

And a 3rd thing is support offerings (although there are companies that offer 
support for non-*EL dists too).

> Correct me if I'm wrong, 
> but it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby
> developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.

Very true, the same packages, the same code base. The only difference one can 
claim would be the amount of testing and qualifacation done on a specific 
subset of all these "non-comercial hobby codes".

Just my .02€
 Peter


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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Johan Sjöberg]

Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one...

These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth 
support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af 
deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim installation. 
And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite unneccesary when you use 
hardware RAID.

Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is). But Ubuntu is too edgy 
to be used in production, I would rather run Debian testing.

The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's nice 
to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's 
not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby developer's" 
code goes into RHEL as well.

/Johan

> -Original Message-
> From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge-
> boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Morten P.D. Stevens
> Sent: den 7 september 2010 12:44
> To: linux-poweredge@dell.com
> Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on
> > your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty
> > talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and
> > because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus
> > centos), and is a bit more engineered (rather than slapped together with
> > 100mph masking tape) than ubuntu, you might get a lot better mileage out
> > of it.
> 
> FYI:
> 
> RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable
> opensource project with hobby developers.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Morten
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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Davide Ferrari]

On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:44 +0200, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote:

> 
> FYI:
> 
> RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable 
> opensource project with hobby developers.

Most of your average server side free/open source software is|were
developed by hobby developers, so why did you start to use it? If you
put it like this, we shuld all be using Dell+Windows or big irons +
proprietary UNIX. It wouldn't be a nice world, huh?

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Morten P.D. Stevens]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors  wrote:

>
> But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on
> your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty
> talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and
> because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus
> centos), and is a bit more engineered (rather than slapped together with
> 100mph masking tape) than ubuntu, you might get a lot better mileage out
> of it.

FYI:

RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable 
opensource project with hobby developers.

Best regards,

Morten

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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Robin Bowes]

On 07/09/10 02:01, Tim Connors wrote:

> because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus
> centos)

Without wishing to start a distro war, that statement is simply not
correct. I'm not dissing debian - it is a great distro - but it's not
"far better quality" than RHEL. Indeed, the main differences seem to be
philosophical.

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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Tim Connors]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Tapas Mishra wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens
>  wrote:
> > Hi Emmanuel,
> >
> > my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell 
> > Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary 
> > compatible with RHEL.
> >
> > If you need without fail a debian based linux distro then use Ubuntu 10.04 
> > LTS server.
> >
> even  I will recommend Mortens suggestions.

But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on
your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty
talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and
because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus
centos), and is a bit more engineered (rather than slapped together with
100mph masking tape) than ubuntu, you might get a lot better mileage out
of it.

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his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.  Do you
understand this?  And radio operates exactly the same way:  you send
signals here,  they receive them there.  The only difference is that
there is no cat.   -- Albert Einstein on radios.

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Morten P.D. Stevens]

Hi Steve,

Yes, the PERC S100 and PERC S300 is a fakeraid. (softwareraid)

Any kind of softwareraid with linux is a terrible idea.

Best regards,

Morten

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> boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Steve Baroti
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:05 PM
> To: linux-poweredge@dell.com
> Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server
> 
> Remember, please skip S100/S300 controllers, at my knowledge they are
> not
> supported:
> https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-19840
> SB.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tapas Mishra" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 13:13
> Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server
> 
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi Emmanuel,
> >>
> >> my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell
> >> Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary
> >> compatible with RHEL.
> >>
> >> If you need without fail a debian based linux distro then use Ubuntu
> >> 10.04 LTS server.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Morten
> > even  I will recommend Mortens suggestions.
> >
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Steve Baroti]

Remember, please skip S100/S300 controllers, at my knowledge they are not 
supported:
https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-19840
SB.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tapas Mishra" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 13:13
Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server


> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens
>  wrote:
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>
>> my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell 
>> Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary 
>> compatible with RHEL.
>>
>> If you need without fail a debian based linux distro then use Ubuntu 
>> 10.04 LTS server.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Morten
> even  I will recommend Mortens suggestions.
>
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Tapas Mishra]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens
 wrote:
> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell 
> Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary 
> compatible with RHEL.
>
> If you need without fail a debian based linux distro then use Ubuntu 10.04 
> LTS server.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Morten
even  I will recommend Mortens suggestions.

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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Morten P.D. Stevens]

Hi Emmanuel,

my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell Poweredge 
machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary compatible with RHEL.

If you need without fail a debian based linux distro then use Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 
server.

Best regards,

Morten

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> boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Emmanuel Lesouef
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 2:58 PM
> To: linux-poweredge@dell.com
> Subject: Advice for a debian server
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
> Stable (Lenny) ?
> 
> Thanks for your advices.
> 
> --
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Tapas Mishra]

My reply will not directly answer your question.
I have had n number of problems using Debian.
Many different type of issues.
Search for Ubuntu and your Dell Server Model number there is a high
probability that Canonical team would have done their calculations and
all the things will work,

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Emmanuel Lesouef  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
>
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
> Stable (Lenny) ?
>
> Thanks for your advices.
>
> --
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RE: Advice for a debian server

[Johan Sjöberg]

Hi.

As far as I know, the bnx2-firmware package is still not integrated in the 
debian install media. This is because it is "non-free".
You can use this script to create a netinstall iso with the bnx2 drivers 
integrated.
http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to.html

More info:
http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant#Needbnx2firmware

/Johan
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[mailto:linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Tim Small
Sent: den 6 september 2010 18:02
To: Emmanuel Lesouef
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Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server

On 06/09/10 13:57, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote:
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about 
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
>
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install 
> Debian Stable (Lenny) ?
>

Anything without a SASx controller (LSI 1068 / LSI 1068E etc.), in my 
experience (just spent the morning recovering a Lenny server following data 
corruptions with these crappy controllers).

I'm quite happy with the option of using software RAID along with the onboard 
SATA controllers on the R210, R310, R410.  Not sure if they do a hot-swap 
option with SATA-only (i.e. non-SAS) configurations, but if they don't and you 
need this, then I can recommend the Intel Server Systems instead (e.g. Intel 
SR1630HGPRX,  SR1695GPRX etc.) - they are engineered to a similar quality, and 
you don't end up paying through the nose for large hard disks.

Make sure you use a recent Lenny kernel for the bnx2 NICs in the R210 etc. to 
work - you'll need to have the firmware-bnx2 package installed.  
The Lenny installer images probably have the kernel patch in by now, but if 
they don't, just install using a USB NIC, or similar and then update to the 
latest kernel post-install.

Tim.

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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Tim Small]

On 06/09/10 13:57, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote:
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
>
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
> Stable (Lenny) ?
>

Anything without a SASx controller (LSI 1068 / LSI 1068E etc.), in my 
experience (just spent the morning recovering a Lenny server following 
data corruptions with these crappy controllers).

I'm quite happy with the option of using software RAID along with the 
onboard SATA controllers on the R210, R310, R410.  Not sure if they do a 
hot-swap option with SATA-only (i.e. non-SAS) configurations, but if 
they don't and you need this, then I can recommend the Intel Server 
Systems instead (e.g. Intel SR1630HGPRX,  SR1695GPRX etc.) - they are 
engineered to a similar quality, and you don't end up paying through the 
nose for large hard disks.

Make sure you use a recent Lenny kernel for the bnx2 NICs in the R210 
etc. to work - you'll need to have the firmware-bnx2 package installed.  
The Lenny installer images probably have the kernel patch in by now, but 
if they don't, just install using a USB NIC, or similar and then update 
to the latest kernel post-install.

Tim.

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Registered in England and Wales with company number 06134732.
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[Joe Gooch]

We have poweredge R710's, plus 2850, 2950, and others all running Lenny 5.0.6.  
Our servers have the PERC model raid cards.

It's primarily Lenny with additional packages from squeeze as necessary. (using 
apt preferences to pin specific packages to squeeze)

Joe

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:00 AM, "Emmanuel Lesouef"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
> Stable (Lenny) ?
> 
> Thanks for your advices.
> 
> -- 
> Emmanuel Lesouef
> 
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[cgm]

Acctually I do have debian lenny7 running fine on R810 (which cames with
PERC H700), used netinstall

# cat version.info
Debian version:  5.0 (lenny)
Installer build: 20090123lenny7

and yes I added bnx2 firmware manually
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware
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Re: Advice for a debian server

[i3D.net - Joep Gottlieb]

 Dependable on what you want,

If you want one of the new raid cards in your server, H700 or H200 (I've
even heard the S100 and S300 have problems with debian) You don't want
Debian, or you want Debian Squeeze.

When you go for a server in the R x10 serie, you will most likely face
problems with the Broadcom Ethernet Adapters (5716 if i say correctly
out of my head) Yet you can bypass this problem by installing the bnx2
drivers manually with it.

The drivers are fine, they are just not compiled by default in the
kernel. (reached 108MB's with it on a R510)

If you really want Debian, and not want to go true all this trouble, one
of the older Dell's the R x00 serie, don't have these problems.

Best regards,

Joep Gottlieb


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Op 6-9-2010 14:57, Emmanuel Lesouef schreef:
> Hi,
>
> Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
> compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.
>
> What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
> Stable (Lenny) ?
>
> Thanks for your advices.
>
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Advice for a debian server

[Emmanuel Lesouef]

Hi,

Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about
compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux.

What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian
Stable (Lenny) ?

Thanks for your advices.

-- 
Emmanuel Lesouef

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