Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-23 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:27:02AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 What is SRP trying to accomplish with that?
 
 The only reason that springs to mind is to emulate IB_MR_MAP_ARB_SG ?

It's not emulating IB_MR_MAP_ARB_SG, it simply allows muliple memory
registrations per I/O request.  Be that to support gappy SGLs in a
generic way, or to allow larger I/O sizes than the HCA MR size.
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Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-23 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 08:42:32PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
 We can do that, but I'd prefer not to pollute the API just for this
 single use case. What we can do, is add a pool API that would take care
 of that. But even then we might end up with different strategies as not
 all ULPs can use it the same way (protocol constraints)...
 
 Today SRP has this logic that registers multiple SG aligned partials.
 We can just have it pass a partial SG list to what we have today instead
 of building the page vectors...
 
 Or if we can come up with something that will keep the API trivial, we
 can take care of that too.


Supporting an array or list of MRs seems pretty easy.  If you ignore the
weird fallback to physical DMA case when a MR fails case the SRP memory
registration code isn't significanly more complex than that in iSER for
example.  And I think NFS needs the same support as well, as it allows
using additional MRs when detecting a gap.
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Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-23 Thread Sagi Grimberg

On 7/23/2015 12:28 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 08:42:32PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:

We can do that, but I'd prefer not to pollute the API just for this
single use case. What we can do, is add a pool API that would take care
of that. But even then we might end up with different strategies as not
all ULPs can use it the same way (protocol constraints)...

Today SRP has this logic that registers multiple SG aligned partials.
We can just have it pass a partial SG list to what we have today instead
of building the page vectors...

Or if we can come up with something that will keep the API trivial, we
can take care of that too.



Supporting an array or list of MRs seems pretty easy.


I'm missing the simplicity here...


If you ignore the
weird fallback to physical DMA case when a MR fails case the SRP memory
registration code isn't significanly more complex than that in iSER for
example.  And I think NFS needs the same support as well, as it allows
using additional MRs when detecting a gap.



This kinda changing the semantics a bit. With this we need to return a
value of how many MRs used to register. It will also make it a bit
sloppy as the actual mapping is driven from the drivers (which use their
internal buffers).

Don't you think that a separate pool API is better for addressing this?
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Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:10:23AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
 The one thing I'm curious about is how we can support SRP with it's
 multiple MR support without too much boilerplate code.  One option
 would be that pass an array of MRs to the map routines, and while
 most callers would just pass in one it would handle multiple for those
 drivers that supply them.

What is SRP trying to accomplish with that?

The only reason that springs to mind is to emulate IB_MR_MAP_ARB_SG ?

Jason
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Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-22 Thread Sagi Grimberg

On 7/22/2015 8:10 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

Thanks Sagi,

this looks pretty good in general, various nitpicks nonwithstanding.

The one thing I'm curious about is how we can support SRP with it's
multiple MR support without too much boilerplate code.  One option
would be that pass an array of MRs to the map routines, and while
most callers would just pass in one it would handle multiple for those
drivers that supply them.


We can do that, but I'd prefer not to pollute the API just for this
single use case. What we can do, is add a pool API that would take care
of that. But even then we might end up with different strategies as not
all ULPs can use it the same way (protocol constraints)...

Today SRP has this logic that registers multiple SG aligned partials.
We can just have it pass a partial SG list to what we have today instead
of building the page vectors...

Or if we can come up with something that will keep the API trivial, we
can take care of that too.
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Re: [PATCH WIP 00/43] New fast registration API

2015-07-22 Thread Christoph Hellwig
Thanks Sagi,

this looks pretty good in general, various nitpicks nonwithstanding.

The one thing I'm curious about is how we can support SRP with it's
multiple MR support without too much boilerplate code.  One option
would be that pass an array of MRs to the map routines, and while
most callers would just pass in one it would handle multiple for those
drivers that supply them.
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