Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jay Denebeim wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Johann Hanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, an answer directly from Plasmon, that's nice. :-)

I've already got the FUSE driver (udofs-1.1-92.i386.rpm, based on
FUSE 1.4, is this current?!). It is nice for a standalone drive, but
we use a SCSI robotic changer in conjunction with an HSM system
(Legato DiskXtender 2.9) which needs some kind of direct access to
the drive. It probes for /dev/nst*, but I guess /dev/sd* would also
work.

I'm a little confused here.  Tape devices have variable sector sizes.
I believe they're required to handle up to 64K in a unix environment.
The drives I work on go up to 256k.

Tapes are different. The UDO drive that Johann was asking about is an
optical _disk_ drive...

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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-25 Thread Jay Denebeim

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Steve McIntyre wrote:


Jay Denebeim wrote:

I've already got the FUSE driver (udofs-1.1-92.i386.rpm, based on
FUSE 1.4, is this current?!). It is nice for a standalone drive, but
we use a SCSI robotic changer in conjunction with an HSM system
(Legato DiskXtender 2.9) which needs some kind of direct access to
the drive. It probes for /dev/nst*, but I guess /dev/sd* would also
work.


I'm a little confused here.  Tape devices have variable sector sizes.
I believe they're required to handle up to 64K in a unix environment.
The drives I work on go up to 256k.


Tapes are different. The UDO drive that Johann was asking about is an
optical _disk_ drive...


Yeah, I got that.  I wasn't going to say anything until he mentioned using 
the tape driver with it.  Is the UDO drive presenting itself as a tape or 
as a disk?


Jay

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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-25 Thread Johann Hanne
 I'm a little confused here.  Tape devices have variable sector sizes.
 I believe they're required to handle up to 64K in a unix environment.
 The drives I work on go up to 256k.
 Tapes are different. The UDO drive that Johann was asking about is an
 optical _disk_ drive...
Hmm... would it be _possible_ to support it as tape device (/dev/st* 
and /dev/nst*)?

Cheers, Johann
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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jay Denebeim wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Steve McIntyre wrote:

 Jay Denebeim wrote:

 I'm a little confused here.  Tape devices have variable sector sizes.
 I believe they're required to handle up to 64K in a unix environment.
 The drives I work on go up to 256k.

 Tapes are different. The UDO drive that Johann was asking about is an
 optical _disk_ drive...

Yeah, I got that.  I wasn't going to say anything until he mentioned using 
the tape driver with it.  Is the UDO drive presenting itself as a tape or 
as a disk?

It's a disk, SCSI type 7 (optical). The tape thing is a red herring,
IMHO.

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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
 I'm a little confused here.  Tape devices have variable sector sizes.
 I believe they're required to handle up to 64K in a unix environment.
 The drives I work on go up to 256k.
 Tapes are different. The UDO drive that Johann was asking about is an
 optical _disk_ drive...
Hmm... would it be _possible_ to support it as tape device (/dev/st* 
and /dev/nst*)?

Not that I'm aware, no. It's not designed to be used as a tape at
all. To be honest, if you want a device that looks like a tape,
then... :-)

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Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-22 Thread Johann Hanne
Hi everybody,

i'm trying to access UDO/WORM mediums (which have a sector size of 8192) via a 
Plasmon UDO drive, but all I get is unsupported sector size 8192 when I try 
to access it via /dev/sdX. drivers/scsi/sd.c suggests that the maximum sector 
size currently supported by Linux is 4096.

How difficult will it get to support 8192? Maybe we can pay somebody for doing 
it? (Kernel 2.4.21, RHEL 3.1).

Cheers, Johann
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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
Johann wrote:
Hi everybody,

i'm trying to access UDO/WORM mediums (which have a sector size of
8192) via a Plasmon UDO drive, but all I get is unsupported sector
size 8192 when I try to access it via /dev/sdX. drivers/scsi/sd.c
suggests that the maximum sector size currently supported by Linux is
4096.

How difficult will it get to support 8192? Maybe we can pay somebody
for doing it? (Kernel 2.4.21, RHEL 3.1).

We (at Plasmon) investigated adding support in the kernel, but gave up
quickly as it looked like it would need a huge amount of work in
multiple areas. Instead, we've started shipping a userland filesystem
driver for UDO based on FUSE. If you'd be interested in that, let me
know...

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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-22 Thread Christian Iversen
On Friday 22 July 2005 20:18, Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Johann wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 i'm trying to access UDO/WORM mediums (which have a sector size of
 8192) via a Plasmon UDO drive, but all I get is unsupported sector
 size 8192 when I try to access it via /dev/sdX. drivers/scsi/sd.c
 suggests that the maximum sector size currently supported by Linux is
 4096.
 
 How difficult will it get to support 8192? Maybe we can pay somebody
 for doing it? (Kernel 2.4.21, RHEL 3.1).

 We (at Plasmon) investigated adding support in the kernel, but gave up
 quickly as it looked like it would need a huge amount of work in
 multiple areas. Instead, we've started shipping a userland filesystem
 driver for UDO based on FUSE. If you'd be interested in that, let me
 know...

Wouldn't it be possible to translate the sector size 2:1? For me, it doesn't 
seem that hard to do. But then again, I usually program other things than the 
kernel :)

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Re: Is it possible to support a sector size 8192

2005-07-22 Thread Bryan Henderson
we've started shipping a userland filesystem
driver for UDO based on FUSE.

How does the userland filesystem driver talk to the device?

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