Re: scanning for LUNs
On 04/04/2013 07:12 PM, KY Srinivasan wrote: -Original Message- From: James Bottomley [mailto:jbottom...@parallels.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:15 AM To: KY Srinivasan Cc: gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org; de...@linuxdriverproject.org; oher...@suse.com; h...@infradead.org; linux- s...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: scanning for LUNs On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 08:12 -0700, K. Y. Srinivasan wrote: Here is the code snippet for scanning LUNS (drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c in function __scsi_scan_target()): /* * Scan LUN 0, if there is some response, scan further. Ideally, we * would not configure LUN 0 until all LUNs are scanned. */ res = scsi_probe_and_add_lun(starget, 0, bflags, NULL, rescan, NULL); if (res == SCSI_SCAN_LUN_PRESENT || res == SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT) { if (scsi_report_lun_scan(starget, bflags, rescan) != 0) So, if we don't get a response while scanning LUN0, we will not use scsi_report_lun_scan(). On Hyper-V, the scsi emulation on the host does not treat LUN0 as anything special and we could have situations where the only device under a scsi controller is at a location other than 0 or 1. In this case the standard LUN scanning code in Linux fails to detect this device. Is this behaviour expected? Why is LUN0 treated differently here. Looking at the scsi spec, I am not sure if this is what is specified. Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Why don't you describe the problem. We can't scan randomly a bunch of LUNs hoping for a response (the space is 10^19). SAM thinks you use LUNW for this, but that's not well supported. We can't annoy USB devices by probing with REPORT LUNS, so conventionally most arrays return something for LUN0 even if they don't actually have one (That's what the peripheral qualifier codes are supposed to be about). We translate PQ1 and PQ2 to SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT, which means no LUN, but there is a target to scan here. If you're sending back an error to an INQUIRY to LUN0, then you're out of spec. The SCSI standards say: SPC3 6.4.1: In response to an INQUIRY command received by an incorrect logical unit, the SCSI target device shall return the INQUIRY data with the peripheral qualifier set to the value defined in 6.4.2. The INQUIRY command shall return CHECK CONDITION status only when the device server is unable to return the requested INQUIRY data Thanks James. I will further investigate the issue on our platform. Or check if you can use W_LUN for scanning. I've done a patchset for this (check the mailing list). Using W_LUN is precisely for this type of setup. (And would provide me with another scenario for using W_LUNs :-) Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke zSeries Storage h...@suse.de +49 911 74053 688 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: J. Hawn, J. Guild, F. Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-scsi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
RE: scanning for LUNs
-Original Message- From: Hannes Reinecke [mailto:h...@suse.de] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:42 AM To: KY Srinivasan Cc: James Bottomley; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- ker...@vger.kernel.org; de...@linuxdriverproject.org; oher...@suse.com; h...@infradead.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: scanning for LUNs On 04/04/2013 07:12 PM, KY Srinivasan wrote: -Original Message- From: James Bottomley [mailto:jbottom...@parallels.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:15 AM To: KY Srinivasan Cc: gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org; de...@linuxdriverproject.org; oher...@suse.com; h...@infradead.org; linux- s...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: scanning for LUNs On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 08:12 -0700, K. Y. Srinivasan wrote: Here is the code snippet for scanning LUNS (drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c in function __scsi_scan_target()): /* * Scan LUN 0, if there is some response, scan further. Ideally, we * would not configure LUN 0 until all LUNs are scanned. */ res = scsi_probe_and_add_lun(starget, 0, bflags, NULL, rescan, NULL); if (res == SCSI_SCAN_LUN_PRESENT || res == SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT) { if (scsi_report_lun_scan(starget, bflags, rescan) != 0) So, if we don't get a response while scanning LUN0, we will not use scsi_report_lun_scan(). On Hyper-V, the scsi emulation on the host does not treat LUN0 as anything special and we could have situations where the only device under a scsi controller is at a location other than 0 or 1. In this case the standard LUN scanning code in Linux fails to detect this device. Is this behaviour expected? Why is LUN0 treated differently here. Looking at the scsi spec, I am not sure if this is what is specified. Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Why don't you describe the problem. We can't scan randomly a bunch of LUNs hoping for a response (the space is 10^19). SAM thinks you use LUNW for this, but that's not well supported. We can't annoy USB devices by probing with REPORT LUNS, so conventionally most arrays return something for LUN0 even if they don't actually have one (That's what the peripheral qualifier codes are supposed to be about). We translate PQ1 and PQ2 to SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT, which means no LUN, but there is a target to scan here. If you're sending back an error to an INQUIRY to LUN0, then you're out of spec. The SCSI standards say: SPC3 6.4.1: In response to an INQUIRY command received by an incorrect logical unit, the SCSI target device shall return the INQUIRY data with the peripheral qualifier set to the value defined in 6.4.2. The INQUIRY command shall return CHECK CONDITION status only when the device server is unable to return the requested INQUIRY data Thanks James. I will further investigate the issue on our platform. Or check if you can use W_LUN for scanning. I've done a patchset for this (check the mailing list). Using W_LUN is precisely for this type of setup. (And would provide me with another scenario for using W_LUNs :-) Thanks Hannes. What is the status on this patch; is it planned for the next upstream release? Regards, K. Y Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke zSeries Storage h...@suse.de+49 911 74053 688 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: J. Hawn, J. Guild, F. Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-scsi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: scanning for LUNs
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 08:12 -0700, K. Y. Srinivasan wrote: Here is the code snippet for scanning LUNS (drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c in function __scsi_scan_target()): /* * Scan LUN 0, if there is some response, scan further. Ideally, we * would not configure LUN 0 until all LUNs are scanned. */ res = scsi_probe_and_add_lun(starget, 0, bflags, NULL, rescan, NULL); if (res == SCSI_SCAN_LUN_PRESENT || res == SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT) { if (scsi_report_lun_scan(starget, bflags, rescan) != 0) So, if we don't get a response while scanning LUN0, we will not use scsi_report_lun_scan(). On Hyper-V, the scsi emulation on the host does not treat LUN0 as anything special and we could have situations where the only device under a scsi controller is at a location other than 0 or 1. In this case the standard LUN scanning code in Linux fails to detect this device. Is this behaviour expected? Why is LUN0 treated differently here. Looking at the scsi spec, I am not sure if this is what is specified. Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Why don't you describe the problem. We can't scan randomly a bunch of LUNs hoping for a response (the space is 10^19). SAM thinks you use LUNW for this, but that's not well supported. We can't annoy USB devices by probing with REPORT LUNS, so conventionally most arrays return something for LUN0 even if they don't actually have one (That's what the peripheral qualifier codes are supposed to be about). We translate PQ1 and PQ2 to SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT, which means no LUN, but there is a target to scan here. If you're sending back an error to an INQUIRY to LUN0, then you're out of spec. The SCSI standards say: SPC3 6.4.1: In response to an INQUIRY command received by an incorrect logical unit, the SCSI target device shall return the INQUIRY data with the peripheral qualifier set to the value defined in 6.4.2. The INQUIRY command shall return CHECK CONDITION status only when the device server is unable to return the requested INQUIRY data James James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-scsi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
RE: scanning for LUNs
-Original Message- From: James Bottomley [mailto:jbottom...@parallels.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:15 AM To: KY Srinivasan Cc: gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org; de...@linuxdriverproject.org; oher...@suse.com; h...@infradead.org; linux- s...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: scanning for LUNs On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 08:12 -0700, K. Y. Srinivasan wrote: Here is the code snippet for scanning LUNS (drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c in function __scsi_scan_target()): /* * Scan LUN 0, if there is some response, scan further. Ideally, we * would not configure LUN 0 until all LUNs are scanned. */ res = scsi_probe_and_add_lun(starget, 0, bflags, NULL, rescan, NULL); if (res == SCSI_SCAN_LUN_PRESENT || res == SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT) { if (scsi_report_lun_scan(starget, bflags, rescan) != 0) So, if we don't get a response while scanning LUN0, we will not use scsi_report_lun_scan(). On Hyper-V, the scsi emulation on the host does not treat LUN0 as anything special and we could have situations where the only device under a scsi controller is at a location other than 0 or 1. In this case the standard LUN scanning code in Linux fails to detect this device. Is this behaviour expected? Why is LUN0 treated differently here. Looking at the scsi spec, I am not sure if this is what is specified. Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. Why don't you describe the problem. We can't scan randomly a bunch of LUNs hoping for a response (the space is 10^19). SAM thinks you use LUNW for this, but that's not well supported. We can't annoy USB devices by probing with REPORT LUNS, so conventionally most arrays return something for LUN0 even if they don't actually have one (That's what the peripheral qualifier codes are supposed to be about). We translate PQ1 and PQ2 to SCSI_SCAN_TARGET_PRESENT, which means no LUN, but there is a target to scan here. If you're sending back an error to an INQUIRY to LUN0, then you're out of spec. The SCSI standards say: SPC3 6.4.1: In response to an INQUIRY command received by an incorrect logical unit, the SCSI target device shall return the INQUIRY data with the peripheral qualifier set to the value defined in 6.4.2. The INQUIRY command shall return CHECK CONDITION status only when the device server is unable to return the requested INQUIRY data Thanks James. I will further investigate the issue on our platform. Regards, K. Y James James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-scsi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html