Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
Hi Michal, On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 February 2015 at 23:19, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luc, On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 03:46:34PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: How's that DRM driver doing, any code yet? At some point. But at least i am not the one whining about it all the time. I will make noise when it's there. Is this something people could help you with? No. It's something that happens behind closed door and nothing is released until it's done. To be quite honest, I was expecting this response. I was hoping for a I'm stuck on $THING, but there's horribly broken code here if you want to hack on it from Luc, but given recent history, I'm not surprised by the (lack of) response. You can, of course, start your own kms driver. Which would be a waste of effort since one is already worked on. And which will be likely ridiculed by Luc because he as the veteran KMS developer who even invented the thing knows best how it's done. I know nothing about GPU / framebuffer / KMS programming, but I have a A31s tablet and A10 tablet which I'd be more than happy to hack as required to test KMS drivers. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be willing to test stuff. Luc might be a brilliant developer but his attitude can be described as less then welcoming to new contributors Or even discouraging contribution to the parts of sunxi project he has stepped up to develop or maintain. In my experience, Luc is a rather good developer with more GPU programming experience than I could dream of having. That said, his attitude towards people reeks of being repeatedly burnt by idiots and other people who would waste his time over things he considers to be trivial to the point of almost being surprised by good contributions. I have the same problem at times. IMHO he commits the cardinal sin of open source programming which is working on something in private without a good explanation. Maybe this is legacy from working on closed source stuff before, but I really don't know. Personally, I'd be happy with a status report every so often, but maybe I'm on the wrong mailing list for that. Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.cal...@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
On 17 February 2015 at 23:19, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luc, On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 03:46:34PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: How's that DRM driver doing, any code yet? At some point. But at least i am not the one whining about it all the time. I will make noise when it's there. Is this something people could help you with? No. It's something that happens behind closed door and nothing is released until it's done. You can, of course, start your own kms driver. Which would be a waste of effort since one is already worked on. And which will be likely ridiculed by Luc because he as the veteran KMS developer who even invented the thing knows best how it's done. Luc might be a brilliant developer but his attitude can be described as less then welcoming to new contributors Or even discouraging contribution to the parts of sunxi project he has stepped up to develop or maintain. Thanks Michal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
Op 17 feb. 2015, om 15:34 heeft Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be het volgende geschreven: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 02:21:28PM +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote: Hi It makes business sense to be open and I think it is healthy to align with the FSF goals because it's also good for business. The field of SoC manufacturers gets somewhat saturated, and those that will get open first, will probably capture the market. I'm totally about free and open source software, I'm just not about Stallman and the FSF dictatorship about the definition of what exactly is free and what unfree. (see the public argument between him and me which was on youtube a while ago) Rest assured Allwinner is highly interested into mainlining as much of the drivers as possible since they think as well that mainlining the drivers will spare a lot of additional development efforts in the future. Also our goal is to move more towards being a community friendly manufacturer so we build an open sourced platform of which everyone can reuse design for his own projects. Hopefully that doesn't sound too assholish from me, but I had a lot of trouble with some of the people (Stallman and Luke) already which were mentioned in the last few emails... That's amazing. It's like these last three years just melted away now. Oh wait. I do not know what grass you smoke or what fun events happened when you visited allwinner, but all i see you do now is grandstanding about how things will be soo great in future. All you do is talk, talk, talk, and i see no actions. And now you even are going down the route of eroding away at Allwinners legal requirements, especially those which cost time and money to fix, two things Allwinner clearly still is not willing to invest. On top of that, you have started to badmouth people who have actually done stuff in their lifetimes. What gives you that right? And what's next on this path? Why don't you just shut up, completely, until you actually have something worth talking about. Say, after you produced code and/or datasheets. How's that DRM driver doing, any code yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 03:46:34PM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: How's that DRM driver doing, any code yet? At some point. But at least i am not the one whining about it all the time. I will make noise when it's there. Luc Verhaegen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
On 14 February 2015 at 22:02, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: Hello As you have maybe already heard in IRC I've taken a trip to Zhuhai and met the engineers of Allwinner Technology (全志科技) in person. We decided that we want as much cooperation between the sunxi project and Allwinner as possible for upstreaming our device drivers. I've taken the job of managing the communication between Allwinner and you guys since there is some language barrier. Some of the engineers only hardly understand English and most of them do not understand English at all. So if you have questions about documentation or request assistance with some pieces of the code please email me and I will translate it into Chinese and pass it on to the relevant engineer. Also I will then pass on the translated answer back to you. Hello, I have on my todo list to look at making the http://linux-sunxi.org/GSL1680 touchscreen work on at least one of my tablets so that I can actually use the device for the intended purpose. Reading the publically available datasheet from Silead and comments in the available drivers I conclude that the 'firmware' blob which is extracted from the original firmware and then fed to a driver is in fact configuration of the Silead chip. This includes stuff like pin multiplexing for the capacitive lines so when the configuration is wrong or missing it's not surprising the chip does not produce any data. Some people claim they have this working with one driver or other but for me this always fails. I suspect there is some error in the current version of the driver since I get an error in chip communication rather than apparently working chip not producing any data. Allwinner has two drivers for this chip in the A23 SDK (one binary, one opensource) so perhaps they have some more information on this chip which would be useful in understanding the communication with the chip or the data sent to it? Thanks Michal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: Hello As you have maybe already heard in IRC I've taken a trip to Zhuhai and met the engineers of Allwinner Technology (全志科技) in person. We decided that we want as much cooperation between the sunxi project and Allwinner as possible for upstreaming our device drivers. I've taken the job of managing the communication between Allwinner and you guys since there is some language barrier. Some of the engineers only hardly understand English and most of them do not understand English at all. So if you have questions about documentation or request assistance with some pieces of the code please email me and I will translate it into Chinese and pass it on to the relevant engineer. Also I will then pass on the translated answer back to you. How will they resolve the gpl violation claims? -- Benjamin Henrion bhenrion at ffii.org FFII Brussels - +32-484-566109 - +32-2-4148403 In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
2015-02-15 21:25 GMT+03:00 Felipe Sanches j...@members.fsf.org: What are the violation claims? Is it documented somewhere so that I can learn more about the issue? http://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
What are the violation claims? Is it documented somewhere so that I can learn more about the issue? Em 15/02/2015 08:14, Benjamin Henrion zoo...@gmail.com escreveu: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: Hello As you have maybe already heard in IRC I've taken a trip to Zhuhai and met the engineers of Allwinner Technology (全志科技) in person. We decided that we want as much cooperation between the sunxi project and Allwinner as possible for upstreaming our device drivers. I've taken the job of managing the communication between Allwinner and you guys since there is some language barrier. Some of the engineers only hardly understand English and most of them do not understand English at all. So if you have questions about documentation or request assistance with some pieces of the code please email me and I will translate it into Chinese and pass it on to the relevant engineer. Also I will then pass on the translated answer back to you. How will they resolve the gpl violation claims? -- Benjamin Henrion bhenrion at ffii.org FFII Brussels - +32-484-566109 - +32-2-4148403 In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[linux-sunxi] Communication with Allwinner
Hello As you have maybe already heard in IRC I've taken a trip to Zhuhai and met the engineers of Allwinner Technology (全志科技) in person. We decided that we want as much cooperation between the sunxi project and Allwinner as possible for upstreaming our device drivers. I've taken the job of managing the communication between Allwinner and you guys since there is some language barrier. Some of the engineers only hardly understand English and most of them do not understand English at all. So if you have questions about documentation or request assistance with some pieces of the code please email me and I will translate it into Chinese and pass it on to the relevant engineer. Also I will then pass on the translated answer back to you. Hopefully this works out All the best greatings from Switzerland David -- David Lanzendörfer OpenSourceSupport GmbH System engineer and supporter http://www.o2s.ch/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups linux-sunxi group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to linux-sunxi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
