Re: [linux-sunxi] FOSDEM 2014, what do we want

2014-01-02 Thread Hans de Goede

Hi,

On 01/01/2014 10:55 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:

On 01/01/14 14:13, Tim Fletcher wrote:

On 01/01/14 13:06, Oliver Schinagl wrote:

Hey list,

as you should remember, I applied for FOSDEM and got accepted. As I'm
working on the presentation, I am curious what you guys think others
would be interested in hearing about.

So please, pretend this is a blank slate, and suggest whatever should be
mentioned during FOSDEM and I will try to take that into account.


I think that a lot of people aren't aware of how far the sunxi project
has come towards making the allwinner SoCs well supported and part of
the main line kernel. I know I wasn't aware of it until I read Rich's
blog post about the cubietruck and KVM.

Well the status of the sunxi community obviously should be one of the main 
reasons for holding this talk :)


Hehe, I too think it would be could to spend most of the talk on upstream
progress. If possible I would also add maybe one sheet about the android
derived 3.4 kernel, where you can basically summarize things by saying that
everything more or less works :)

Regards,

Hans

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Re: [linux-sunxi] FOSDEM 2014, what do we want

2014-01-02 Thread Olliver Schinagl

On 02-01-14 15:26, Luc Verhaegen wrote:

On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 01/01/2014 10:55 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:

Hehe, I too think it would be could to spend most of the talk on upstream
progress. If possible I would also add maybe one sheet about the android
derived 3.4 kernel, where you can basically summarize things by saying that
everything more or less works :)

Regards,

Hans


I do not agree. Upstream linux kernel support is not what this talk is
about, and the talk should very broadly cover many aspects of the
linux-sunxi project.

If you wanted an upstream linux kernel talk for sunxi, you should've
filed a separate talk.
I think this subject is so broad, that all (kernel) directions should 
and could be talked about. 3.4 is interesting, 3.10 is interesting, 
mainline is interesting. 3.0 btw is not, but even talking a little about 
3.3 is important to the crowd to know what's out there (and what to avoid).


This is about new people that don't know what's going on here, all 
information is good :)


oliver




Luc Verhaegen.



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Re: [linux-sunxi] FOSDEM 2014, what do we want

2014-01-02 Thread Patrick Wood


On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:13:12 AM UTC-5, Tim Fletcher wrote:

 On 01/01/14 13:06, Oliver Schinagl wrote: 
  Hey list, 
  
  as you should remember, I applied for FOSDEM and got accepted. As I'm 
  working on the presentation, I am curious what you guys think others 
  would be interested in hearing about. 
  
  So please, pretend this is a blank slate, and suggest whatever should be 
  mentioned during FOSDEM and I will try to take that into account. 

 I think that a lot of people aren't aware of how far the sunxi project 
 has come towards making the allwinner SoCs well supported and part of 
 the main line kernel. I know I wasn't aware of it until I read Rich's 
 blog post about the cubietruck and KVM. 

 Being able to point people towards a few good cheap boards they can get 
 Linux up and running on quickly and easily would help too. Too many (to 
 my mind) of the postings on the debian-arm list are about bodging debian 
 onto ancient arm5 devices. 

 I think you should put up a slide or two comparing the AW SoCs with other 
low-cost, high-integration ARM SoCs out there, like Rockchip, Broadcom, 
AMLogic, and maybe Freescale. Include things like HW features, current 
level of FOS support (or lack thereof) for IP blocks, level of kernel 
support (or lack thereof) from the manufacturer, status of 
reverse-engineered blocks, etc.  Also include a high-end SoC like Tegra 
or OMAP as a reference.  Rhombus Tech has some useful information comparing 
different SoCs.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] FOSDEM 2014, what do we want

2014-01-01 Thread Oliver Schinagl

On 01/01/14 14:13, Tim Fletcher wrote:

On 01/01/14 13:06, Oliver Schinagl wrote:

Hey list,

as you should remember, I applied for FOSDEM and got accepted. As I'm
working on the presentation, I am curious what you guys think others
would be interested in hearing about.

So please, pretend this is a blank slate, and suggest whatever should be
mentioned during FOSDEM and I will try to take that into account.


I think that a lot of people aren't aware of how far the sunxi project
has come towards making the allwinner SoCs well supported and part of
the main line kernel. I know I wasn't aware of it until I read Rich's
blog post about the cubietruck and KVM.
Well the status of the sunxi community obviously should be one of the 
main reasons for holding this talk :)




Being able to point people towards a few good cheap boards they can get
Linux up and running on quickly and easily would help too. Too many (to
my mind) of the postings on the debian-arm list are about bodging debian
onto ancient arm5 devices.
Oh wow, that's old stuff ;) Hopefully once mailman is running normally, 
we can get more debian devs involved!




Oliver

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