Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Embed Studio embedstudioi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 SDK is being prepared. you know, Lemon Pi is on campaign process.
 Everything including code/document/datasheet/hardware material etc. will be
 availabel as soon as possible.


There are quite of a few things to do and probably should have been done
before the campaign on Indiegogo.

1. The campaign on Indiegogo is a Flexible campaign, which means that
even if you do not manage to reach the funding target, you get to keep the
money.
The standard Indiegogo campaign type (Fixed) is to return the money if
you do not manage to reach the funding target.
If you go for the Flexible type, you need to build confidence that the
device is working and what you are promising can be delivered.

For example, you mention on the Indiegogo page that you ported the device
to Ubuntu. Here you can show the dmesg output (put it on pastebin.com),
run benchmarks or provide other relevant information.
You can also send a sample to websites like cnx-software.com so that they
can review it for you.

2. The position that Actions Semi is now, was probably what was with
Allwinner at around 2012 (that is, in early stages for a developer board)
There was a campaign on Indiegogo at
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cubieboard-open-arm-box#/story
But before that campaign, there was (independent) developer effort and
confidence.
You may want to contact Tom Cubie (from Cubieboard campaign) and ask for
advice.

3. Actions Semi is a new fabless company, so in order to gain the interest
of developers/users,
you need to do some things much better than what is available with existing
developer boards.

Finally, this Google group is about Allwinner SoCs and it does not look
nice to talk about different SoCs here.
There are generic technical Linux ARM mailing lists such as those at
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/mailinglists/lists.php

Hope this helps,
Simos

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Carlo Caione
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 08:06:13PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on
  the LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?
 

 Are there lists for these other Chinese vendors?  I haven't found one for
 Rockchip or AMLogic.

 As stated on http://linux-rockchip.info/mw/ it is on googlegroups as
 well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux-rockchip

 For amlogic, things are not as far advanced:
 http://linux-meson.com/doku.php#community

Well, things are going on actually. Really slowly since I'm basically
the only one working on it, but they are going on.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 02:52:57PM +0200, Carlo Caione wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
  On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 08:06:13PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Are there lists for these other Chinese vendors?  I haven't found one for
  Rockchip or AMLogic.
 
  As stated on http://linux-rockchip.info/mw/ it is on googlegroups as
  well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux-rockchip
 
  For amlogic, things are not as far advanced:
  http://linux-meson.com/doku.php#community
 
 Well, things are going on actually. Really slowly since I'm basically
 the only one working on it, but they are going on.

:)

Luc Verhaegen.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:28:18AM +1000, Julian Calaby wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on the
 LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?

This is very off-topic and should be considered spam indeed.

So this is what the crowd-funding and/or raspberry pi beater 
golddiggers have come to these days...

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Luc,

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:28:18AM +1000, Julian Calaby wrote:
 Hi,

 Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on the
 LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?

 This is very off-topic and should be considered spam indeed.

 So this is what the crowd-funding and/or raspberry pi beater
 golddiggers have come to these days...

Apparently so.

I'm waiting for them to run out of fruit options.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Andrea Venturi


On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 9:13:05 AM UTC+2, Julian Calaby wrote:

 ...
 I'm waiting for them to run out of fruit options. 



just to keep this thread REALLY out of topic, the fruit race remembers me 
my early days (80ies..) of computing when my father bought me and my 
brother a not so cheap Apple //e (beware the precise syntax.. not an older 
Apple ][  :-) but there were already at the time, the china clones (at 
the time the 6502 based Apple was more or less an open design..) with 
resembling names like PearPc or Lemon and Orange.. (as far as i remember..)

it's really true that history repeats itself periodically! :-) ..sorry for 
the unuseful post, no tree has been harmed anyway for it!


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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-27 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:58:45AM +0300, Priit Laes wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 00:54 -0700, Andrea Venturi wrote:
  
  
  On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 9:13:05 AM UTC+2, Julian Calaby wrote:
   ...
   I'm waiting for them to run out of fruit options. 
   
  
  just to keep this thread REALLY out of topic, the fruit race 
  remembers me my early days (80ies..) of computing when my father 
  bought me and my brother a not so cheap Apple //e (beware the precise 
  syntax.. not an older Apple ][  :-) but there were already at the 
  time, the china clones (at the time the 6502 based Apple was more 
  or less an open design..) with resembling names like PearPc or Lemon 
  and Orange.. (as far as i remember..)
 
 Not only China, but Europe and South America too.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II_series#Clones 

Somehow, this discussion about history repeating is more interesting and 
ontopic than the spammail it is based on :)

Luc Verhaegen.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on
 the LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?


Are there lists for these other Chinese vendors?  I haven't found one for
Rockchip or AMLogic.




 Thanks,

 Julian Calaby

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Embed Studio embedstudioi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The Lemon Pi is a very low-cost open source single-board computer (SBC)
 equipped with a powerful ARM quad-core Cortex A9 microprocessor integrated
 with an Imagination PowerVR SGX544 GPU.There are a lot of the same
 characteristics between Lemon Pi and Raspberry Pi 2,such as the price,the
 size and the compatible 40 pin interface and so on.But the Lemon Pi has
 more powerful computing and Imagination GPU hardware acceleration
 capacity,more IO interface expansion etc.More importantly, Lemon Pi
 supports many specifictions that Raspberry Pi 2 does not support, such as
 USB3.0 host, OpenCL that Imagination PowerVR SGX544 supports, android 5.0.
 S500, which is one of Actions Semi open cource chipset series called
 ActDuino, is adopted on the Lemon Pi.
 The specification is as following.
 Operating systemUbuntu 12.04 + OpenGL ES/OpenCL/GPU acceleration on
 Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Android 5.0 on Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Full source code is accessible via our GithubSoCS500CPUQuad-core
 Cortex-A9 @28nmGPUImagination PowerVR SGX544 (OpenGL ES2.0/1.1, OpenVG
 1.0.1, OpenCL)RAM1GBScreen interfaceMIPI DSIInternal storage interfaceSupport
 eMMC 4.5 up to 64GBExternal storage interfaceMicro SD/TF card extensible
 (card socket)Video captureFHD 1080P@30fps H.264TV OutHDMI 1.4 with HDCP
 and CVBS(integrated in Headphone connector)Audio output/Input3.5
 Headphone connector with wire controlUSBUSB2.0 x 2 + USB3.0 (support OTG)
 CameraMIPI CSI2buttonsOn/Off, Reset, ADFU(Actions Device Firmware
 Update) keyIR Receiversupport remote controlIO Expansion(40 
 pin)+3.3V,+5V,GND,I2C,UART,SPI,PCM,UART,I2S,GPIO
 x16Ethernet10/100 MbpsPMU and Audio CodecATC2603CPower DCIN5V/700mASize85mm
 x 56mm approxNowadays the Lemon Pi is going on Indiegogo campaign at
 http://igg.me/at/lemonpi   (
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board
 ),you can visit it for more details.
 Many thanks for your time to read my letter.Don't hesitate to ask any
 question or give advice to us. We will keep you updated and respond to you
 as soon as possible.
 I expect to receive your reply.
 Thanks.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Jon,

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:06 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on the 
 LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?


 Are there lists for these other Chinese vendors?  I haven't found one for 
 Rockchip or AMLogic.

I'm not aware of any either, but I haven't had reason to find them
yet. - I don't have many ARM devices and haven't had a reason to do
any development for any which aren't Allwinner.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread Priit Laes
On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 06:32 +0800, Embed Studio wrote:
 SDK is being prepared. you know, Lemon Pi is on campaign process. 
 Everything including code/document/datasheet/hardware material etc. 
 will be availabel as soon as possible.

I don't think that neither You (EmbedStudio) or Actions Semi understand
s what Open Source means.

There's no mention of Actions Techology SoCs in the latest mainline
kernel tree and neither in relevant mailing lists. Besides I can't even
find a proper datasheet or programmers manual for S500 SoC. And good
luck with PowerVR.

Therefore please stop spamming because this list is for discussing
Allwinner SoC hardware and relevant Open Source projects.

 
 2015-05-27 6:13 GMT+08:00 jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com:
  What is the github link to the mentioned source code for the 
  Android 5.0 port?
  
  On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Embed Studio 
  embedstudioi...@gmail.com wrote:
   The Lemon Pi is a very low-cost open source single-board computer 
   (SBC) equipped with a powerful ARM quad-core Cortex A9 
   microprocessor integrated with an Imagination PowerVR SGX544 
   GPU.There are a lot of the same characteristics between Lemon Pi 
   and Raspberry Pi 2,such as the price,the size and the compatible 
   40 pin interface and so on.But the Lemon Pi has more powerful 
   computing and Imagination GPU hardware acceleration capacity,more 
   IO interface expansion etc.More importantly, Lemon Pi supports 
   many specifictions that Raspberry Pi 2 does not support, such as 
   USB3.0 host, OpenCL that Imagination PowerVR SGX544 supports, 
   android 5.0. S500, which is one of Actions Semi open cource 
   chipset series called ActDuino, is adopted on the Lemon Pi.
   The specification is as following.
   Operating system  Ubuntu 12.04 + OpenGL ES/OpenCL/GPU 
   acceleration on Kernel 3.10 LTS
   Android 5.0 on Kernel 3.10 LTS
   Full source code is accessible via our Github
   SoC   S500
   CPU   Quad-core Cortex-A9 @28nm
   GPU   Imagination PowerVR SGX544
 (OpenGL ES2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.0.1, OpenCL)
   RAM   1GB
   Screen interface  MIPI DSI
   Internal storage interfaceSupport eMMC 4.5 up to 64GB
   External storage interfaceMicro SD/TF card extensible 
   (card socket)
   Video capture FHD 1080P@30fps H.264
   TV OutHDMI 1.4 with HDCP and CVBS(integrated in Headphone 
   connector)
   Audio output/Input3.5 Headphone connector with wire 
   control
   USB   USB2.0 x 2 + USB3.0 (support OTG)
   CameraMIPI CSI2
   buttons   On/Off, Reset, ADFU(Actions Device Firmware Update) key
   IR Receiver   support remote control
   IO Expansion(40 pin)  +3.3V,+5V,GND,I2C,UART,SPI,PCM,UART,I2S,
   GPIO x16
   Ethernet  10/100 Mbps
   PMU and Audio Codec   ATC2603C
   Power DCIN5V/700mA
   Size  85mm x 56mm approx
   Nowadays the Lemon Pi is going on Indiegogo campaign at
   http://igg.me/at/lemonpi  ; (https://www.indiegogo.com/pr
   ojects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board  ; ),you can visit 
   it for more details.
   Many thanks for your time to read my letter.Don't hesitate to 
   ask any question or give advice to us. We will keep you updated 
   and respond to you as soon as possible. 
   I expect to receive your reply.
   Thanks.
   

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
What is the github link to the mentioned source code for the Android 5.0
port?

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Embed Studio embedstudioi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The Lemon Pi is a very low-cost open source single-board computer (SBC)
 equipped with a powerful ARM quad-core Cortex A9 microprocessor integrated
 with an Imagination PowerVR SGX544 GPU.There are a lot of the same
 characteristics between Lemon Pi and Raspberry Pi 2,such as the price,the
 size and the compatible 40 pin interface and so on.But the Lemon Pi has
 more powerful computing and Imagination GPU hardware acceleration
 capacity,more IO interface expansion etc.More importantly, Lemon Pi
 supports many specifictions that Raspberry Pi 2 does not support, such as
 USB3.0 host, OpenCL that Imagination PowerVR SGX544 supports, android 5.0.
 S500, which is one of Actions Semi open cource chipset series called
 ActDuino, is adopted on the Lemon Pi.
 The specification is as following.
 Operating systemUbuntu 12.04 + OpenGL ES/OpenCL/GPU acceleration on
 Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Android 5.0 on Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Full source code is accessible via our GithubSoCS500CPUQuad-core
 Cortex-A9 @28nmGPUImagination PowerVR SGX544 (OpenGL ES2.0/1.1, OpenVG
 1.0.1, OpenCL)RAM1GBScreen interfaceMIPI DSIInternal storage interfaceSupport
 eMMC 4.5 up to 64GBExternal storage interfaceMicro SD/TF card extensible
 (card socket)Video captureFHD 1080P@30fps H.264TV OutHDMI 1.4 with HDCP
 and CVBS(integrated in Headphone connector)Audio output/Input3.5
 Headphone connector with wire controlUSBUSB2.0 x 2 + USB3.0 (support OTG)
 CameraMIPI CSI2buttonsOn/Off, Reset, ADFU(Actions Device Firmware Update)
 keyIR Receiversupport remote controlIO Expansion(40 
 pin)+3.3V,+5V,GND,I2C,UART,SPI,PCM,UART,I2S,GPIO
 x16Ethernet10/100 MbpsPMU and Audio CodecATC2603CPower DCIN5V/700mASize85mm
 x 56mm approxNowadays the Lemon Pi is going on Indiegogo campaign at
 http://igg.me/at/lemonpi   (
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board
 ),you can visit it for more details.
 Many thanks for your time to read my letter.Don't hesitate to ask any
 question or give advice to us. We will keep you updated and respond to you
 as soon as possible.
 I expect to receive your reply.
 Thanks.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi,

Stupid question: isn't this kinda off-topic for this list as the SoC on the
LemonPi isn't an Allwinner part?

Thanks,

Julian Calaby

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Embed Studio embedstudioi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The Lemon Pi is a very low-cost open source single-board computer (SBC)
 equipped with a powerful ARM quad-core Cortex A9 microprocessor integrated
 with an Imagination PowerVR SGX544 GPU.There are a lot of the same
 characteristics between Lemon Pi and Raspberry Pi 2,such as the price,the
 size and the compatible 40 pin interface and so on.But the Lemon Pi has
 more powerful computing and Imagination GPU hardware acceleration
 capacity,more IO interface expansion etc.More importantly, Lemon Pi
 supports many specifictions that Raspberry Pi 2 does not support, such as
 USB3.0 host, OpenCL that Imagination PowerVR SGX544 supports, android 5.0.
 S500, which is one of Actions Semi open cource chipset series called
 ActDuino, is adopted on the Lemon Pi.
 The specification is as following.
 Operating systemUbuntu 12.04 + OpenGL ES/OpenCL/GPU acceleration on
 Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Android 5.0 on Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Full source code is accessible via our GithubSoCS500CPUQuad-core
 Cortex-A9 @28nmGPUImagination PowerVR SGX544 (OpenGL ES2.0/1.1, OpenVG
 1.0.1, OpenCL)RAM1GBScreen interfaceMIPI DSIInternal storage interfaceSupport
 eMMC 4.5 up to 64GBExternal storage interfaceMicro SD/TF card extensible
 (card socket)Video captureFHD 1080P@30fps H.264TV OutHDMI 1.4 with HDCP
 and CVBS(integrated in Headphone connector)Audio output/Input3.5
 Headphone connector with wire controlUSBUSB2.0 x 2 + USB3.0 (support OTG)
 CameraMIPI CSI2buttonsOn/Off, Reset, ADFU(Actions Device Firmware Update)
 keyIR Receiversupport remote controlIO Expansion(40 
 pin)+3.3V,+5V,GND,I2C,UART,SPI,PCM,UART,I2S,GPIO
 x16Ethernet10/100 MbpsPMU and Audio CodecATC2603CPower DCIN5V/700mASize85mm
 x 56mm approxNowadays the Lemon Pi is going on Indiegogo campaign at
 http://igg.me/at/lemonpi   (
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board
 ),you can visit it for more details.
 Many thanks for your time to read my letter.Don't hesitate to ask any
 question or give advice to us. We will keep you updated and respond to you
 as soon as possible.
 I expect to receive your reply.
 Thanks.

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Re: [linux-sunxi] Lemon Pi on Indiegogo campaign,$35 ARM Quad-core A9 and Imagination PowerVR SGX544 open source board

2015-05-26 Thread Embed Studio
SDK is being prepared. you know, Lemon Pi is on campaign process.
Everything including code/document/datasheet/hardware material etc. will be
availabel as soon as possible.

2015-05-27 6:13 GMT+08:00 jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com:

 What is the github link to the mentioned source code for the Android 5.0
 port?

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Embed Studio embedstudioi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The Lemon Pi is a very low-cost open source single-board computer (SBC)
 equipped with a powerful ARM quad-core Cortex A9 microprocessor integrated
 with an Imagination PowerVR SGX544 GPU.There are a lot of the same
 characteristics between Lemon Pi and Raspberry Pi 2,such as the price,the
 size and the compatible 40 pin interface and so on.But the Lemon Pi has
 more powerful computing and Imagination GPU hardware acceleration
 capacity,more IO interface expansion etc.More importantly, Lemon Pi
 supports many specifictions that Raspberry Pi 2 does not support, such as
 USB3.0 host, OpenCL that Imagination PowerVR SGX544 supports, android 5.0.
 S500, which is one of Actions Semi open cource chipset series called
 ActDuino, is adopted on the Lemon Pi.
 The specification is as following.
 Operating systemUbuntu 12.04 + OpenGL ES/OpenCL/GPU acceleration on
 Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Android 5.0 on Kernel 3.10 LTS
 Full source code is accessible via our GithubSoCS500CPUQuad-core
 Cortex-A9 @28nmGPUImagination PowerVR SGX544 (OpenGL ES2.0/1.1, OpenVG
 1.0.1, OpenCL)RAM1GBScreen interfaceMIPI DSIInternal storage interfaceSupport
 eMMC 4.5 up to 64GBExternal storage interfaceMicro SD/TF card extensible
 (card socket)Video captureFHD 1080P@30fps H.264TV OutHDMI 1.4 with HDCP
 and CVBS(integrated in Headphone connector)Audio output/Input3.5
 Headphone connector with wire controlUSBUSB2.0 x 2 + USB3.0 (support OTG)
 CameraMIPI CSI2buttonsOn/Off, Reset, ADFU(Actions Device Firmware
 Update) keyIR Receiversupport remote controlIO Expansion(40 
 pin)+3.3V,+5V,GND,I2C,UART,SPI,PCM,UART,I2S,GPIO
 x16Ethernet10/100 MbpsPMU and Audio CodecATC2603CPower DCIN5V/700mASize85mm
 x 56mm approxNowadays the Lemon Pi is going on Indiegogo campaign at
 http://igg.me/at/lemonpi   (
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board
 ),you can visit it for more details.
 Many thanks for your time to read my letter.Don't hesitate to ask any
 question or give advice to us. We will keep you updated and respond to you
 as soon as possible.
 I expect to receive your reply.
 Thanks.

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