Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 06:59:52PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > This a final patch ever get sent out? I'll send it out tomorrow once merge window is closed. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 29 January 2018 at 09:44, Mika Westerberg wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 01:31:00PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: >> On 26 January 2018 at 09:53, Mike Lothian wrote: >> > On 26 January 2018 at 08:31, Mika Westerberg >> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:07:56AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: >> >>> Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the >> >>> device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued >> >> >> >> That's not how it is supposed to work. Please send me full dmesg and in >> >> addition acpidump of the system (or attach it to the bugzilla bug). Also >> >> share your .config. >> > >> > I've attached my full dmesg and .config to the bug. The acpidump info >> > can be found at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051, >> > the current kernel has the attached patch to enable >> > AcpiGbl_ParseTableAsTermList, the bug also contains a dmesg without it >> >> I've attached the dmesg to the bug >> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 >> >> The important lines I think are: >> >> [ 26.988174] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in >> hotplug_event() >> [ 129.086070] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in >> hotplug_event() > > Indeed. Thanks! Let's continue debugging on bugzilla. This a final patch ever get sent out? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 01:31:00PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > On 26 January 2018 at 09:53, Mike Lothian wrote: > > On 26 January 2018 at 08:31, Mika Westerberg > > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:07:56AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > >>> Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the > >>> device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued > >> > >> That's not how it is supposed to work. Please send me full dmesg and in > >> addition acpidump of the system (or attach it to the bugzilla bug). Also > >> share your .config. > > > > I've attached my full dmesg and .config to the bug. The acpidump info > > can be found at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051, > > the current kernel has the attached patch to enable > > AcpiGbl_ParseTableAsTermList, the bug also contains a dmesg without it > > I've attached the dmesg to the bug > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 > > The important lines I think are: > > [ 26.988174] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in > hotplug_event() > [ 129.086070] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in > hotplug_event() Indeed. Thanks! Let's continue debugging on bugzilla. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 26 January 2018 at 09:53, Mike Lothian wrote: > On 26 January 2018 at 08:31, Mika Westerberg > wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:07:56AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: >>> Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the >>> device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued >> >> That's not how it is supposed to work. Please send me full dmesg and in >> addition acpidump of the system (or attach it to the bugzilla bug). Also >> share your .config. > > I've attached my full dmesg and .config to the bug. The acpidump info > can be found at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051, > the current kernel has the attached patch to enable > AcpiGbl_ParseTableAsTermList, the bug also contains a dmesg without it I've attached the dmesg to the bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 The important lines I think are: [ 26.988174] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in hotplug_event() [ 129.086070] ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.RP01: acpiphp_glue: Bus check in hotplug_event() -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 26 January 2018 at 08:31, Mika Westerberg wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:07:56AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: >> Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the >> device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued > > That's not how it is supposed to work. Please send me full dmesg and in > addition acpidump of the system (or attach it to the bugzilla bug). Also > share your .config. I've attached my full dmesg and .config to the bug. The acpidump info can be found at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051, the current kernel has the attached patch to enable AcpiGbl_ParseTableAsTermList, the bug also contains a dmesg without it -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 08:07:56AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the > device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued That's not how it is supposed to work. Please send me full dmesg and in addition acpidump of the system (or attach it to the bugzilla bug). Also share your .config. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 26 January 2018 at 06:33, Mika Westerberg wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:20:02PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: >> I've just tried this and the USB-C device was detected :D This is the >> first time it's ever been detected after boot >> >> 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge >> [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >>Kernel driver in use: pcieport >> 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge >> [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >>Kernel driver in use: pcieport >> 03:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge >> [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >>Kernel driver in use: pcieport >> 03:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge >> [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >>Kernel driver in use: pcieport >> 39:00.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation DSL6340 USB 3.1 Controller >> [Alpine Ridge] >>Subsystem: Device : >>Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd > > Yes, this is how it should work. All those PCI bridges + xHCI are > hotplugged when you plug in a USB-C device. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in > the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Whether CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y or CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=n the device doesn't show unless echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan is issued -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:20:02PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > I've just tried this and the USB-C device was detected :D This is the > first time it's ever been detected after boot > > 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge > [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >Kernel driver in use: pcieport > 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge > [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >Kernel driver in use: pcieport > 03:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge > [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >Kernel driver in use: pcieport > 03:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge > [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] >Kernel driver in use: pcieport > 39:00.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation DSL6340 USB 3.1 Controller > [Alpine Ridge] >Subsystem: Device : >Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd Yes, this is how it should work. All those PCI bridges + xHCI are hotplugged when you plug in a USB-C device. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 09:31:08PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > I've tried with and without those being set, neither help, having > CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y on causes my NVMe drive to disappear after > suspend You *must* have those set, othewise the xHCI will not work. Can you do so that you enable those options, boot without anything connected to the USB-C port. Then when the system is up and running plug in your USB-C device and see if it works or not. If it does not then send me full dmesg. NVMe missing after suspend is a different issue, though. > I'll switch back into windows and check I've the latest firmware for > Thunderbolt, is there a way to do that on linux too? I don't think that is needed since hotplug works in Windows. You can upgrade NVM from Linux as well. See Documentation/admin-guide/thunderbolt.rst. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 25 January 2018 at 21:31, Mike Lothian wrote: > > Hi > > I've tried with and without those being set, neither help, having > CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y on causes my NVMe drive to disappear after > suspend > > I'll switch back into windows and check I've the latest firmware for > Thunderbolt, is there a way to do that on linux too? > > Thanks > > Mike So I noticed on one of the other bugs regarding NVMe devices going missing after suspend that issuing a echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan got them to reappear I've just tried this and the USB-C device was detected :D This is the first time it's ever been detected after boot 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] Kernel driver in use: pcieport 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] Kernel driver in use: pcieport 03:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] Kernel driver in use: pcieport 03:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation DSL6340 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge [Alpine Ridge 2C 2015] Kernel driver in use: pcieport 39:00.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation DSL6340 USB 3.1 Controller [Alpine Ridge] Subsystem: Device : Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd Here's the output of lsusb -v lsusb -v Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 3.10 bDeviceClass9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 3 bMaxPacketSize0 9 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0003 3.0 root hub bcdDevice4.15 iManufacturer 3 Linux 4.15.0-rc8-agd5f+ xhci-hcd iProduct2 xHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 :39:00.0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 31 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes3 Transfer TypeInterrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes bInterval 12 bMaxBurst 0 Hub Descriptor: bLength 12 bDescriptorType 42 nNbrPorts 2 wHubCharacteristic 0x000a No power switching (usb 1.0) Per-port overcurrent protection bPwrOn2PwrGood 10 * 2 milli seconds bHubContrCurrent 0 milli Ampere bHubDecLat 0.0 micro seconds wHubDelay 0 nano seconds DeviceRemovable0x00 Hub Port Status: Port 1: .02a0 lowspeed L1 Port 2: .02a0 lowspeed L1 Binary Object Store Descriptor: bLength 5 bDescriptorType15 wTotalLength 43 bNumDeviceCaps 2 SuperSpeed USB Device Capability: bLength10 bDescriptorType16 bDevCapabilityType 3 bmAttributes 0x02 Latency Tolerance Messages (LTM) Supported wSpeedsSupported 0x0008 Device can operate at SuperSpeed (5Gbps) bFunctionalitySupport 3 Lowest fully-functional device speed is SuperSpeed (5Gbps) bU1DevExitLat 10 micro seconds bU2DevExitLat 512 micro seconds SuperSpeedPlus USB Device Capability: bLength28 bDescriptorType16 bDevCapabilityType 10 bmAttributes 0x0023 Sublink Speed Attribute count 3 Sublink Speed ID count 1 wFunctionalitySupport 0x0001 bmSublinkSpeedAttr[0] 0x00050034 Speed Attribute ID: 4 5Gb/s Symmetric RX SuperSpeed bmSublinkSpeedAttr[1] 0x000500b4 Speed Attribute ID: 4 5Gb/s Symmetric TX SuperSpeed bmSublinkSpeedAttr[2] 0x000a4035 Speed Attribute ID: 5 10Gb/s Symmetric RX SuperSpeedPlus bmSublinkSpeedAttr[3] 0x000a40b5 Speed Attribute ID: 5 10Gb/s Symmetric TX SuperSpeedPlus can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered Bus 003 Device 003: ID 18d1:4ee2 Google Inc. Nexus Device (debug) Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 at 10:52 Mika Westerberg wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:35:49PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote: > > +Mika > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > > > connected during boot > > > > > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > > > responding, assume dead > > > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > > > well.) > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > > > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > > > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > > > > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it > > > booted > > > > > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) > > > > Did you update the Thunderbolt firmware? > > > > Mika, perhaps you can provide steps how to do that? > > If it works in Windows then I suspect this is not related to the > firmware. > > Mike, do you have PCI hotplug enabled in your .config? Following needs > to be set: > > CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=y > CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y > > If not, please enabled them and try again. Hi I've tried with and without those being set, neither help, having CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y on causes my NVMe drive to disappear after suspend I'll switch back into windows and check I've the latest firmware for Thunderbolt, is there a way to do that on linux too? Thanks Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:35:49PM +0200, Heikki Krogerus wrote: > +Mika > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > > connected during boot > > > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > > responding, assume dead > > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > > well.) > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > Hi > > > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted > > > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) > > Did you update the Thunderbolt firmware? > > Mika, perhaps you can provide steps how to do that? If it works in Windows then I suspect this is not related to the firmware. Mike, do you have PCI hotplug enabled in your .config? Following needs to be set: CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=y CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=y If not, please enabled them and try again. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
+Mika On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > bugzilla > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > connected during boot > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > responding, assume dead > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > well.) > > > > thanks, > > > > greg k-h > > > Hi > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) Did you update the Thunderbolt firmware? Mika, perhaps you can provide steps how to do that? Cheers, -- heikki -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 24 January 2018 at 10:42, Oliver Neukum wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 24.01.2018, 10:30 + schrieb Mike Lothian: > > echo "file $NAMEOFKERNELSOURCEFILEYOUWANT +mfp" > > /sys/kernel/debug/dynamic_debug/control > > HTH > Oliver > OK so I'm enabling dynamic debugging in the kernel (DYNAMIC_DEBUG) Which files would you like me to monitor? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
Am Mittwoch, den 24.01.2018, 10:30 + schrieb Mike Lothian: > On 24 January 2018 at 10:04, Oliver Neukum wrote: > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 24.01.2018, 09:36 + schrieb Mike Lothian: > > > > > > > > > I've played around with this some more, if the device is connected > > > after boot nothing shows when it's plugged in > > > > > > I did however get more messages out when I disconnected the device > > > after booting with it (see attached) > > > > > > > That is the normal case of PCI disconnect of XHCI and Thunderbolt > > stuff. It confirms that you have the Intel chipsets that does > > a PCI disconnect while nothing is plugged in. > > > > This really needs PCI hotplugging to work. > > Could you activate dynamic debugging for PCI and ACPI? > > > > You might, if your BIOS is crap, try only native hotplug > > with ACPI hotplug disabled. > > > > Regards > > Oliver > > > > Still nothing if I connect the device with PCI Hotplugging with no > ACPI Hotplugging > > What do I need to do to activate dynamic debugging? echo "file $NAMEOFKERNELSOURCEFILEYOUWANT +mfp" > /sys/kernel/debug/dynamic_debug/control HTH Oliver -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On 24 January 2018 at 10:04, Oliver Neukum wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 24.01.2018, 09:36 + schrieb Mike Lothian: >> >> I've played around with this some more, if the device is connected >> after boot nothing shows when it's plugged in >> >> I did however get more messages out when I disconnected the device >> after booting with it (see attached) >> > > That is the normal case of PCI disconnect of XHCI and Thunderbolt > stuff. It confirms that you have the Intel chipsets that does > a PCI disconnect while nothing is plugged in. > > This really needs PCI hotplugging to work. > Could you activate dynamic debugging for PCI and ACPI? > > You might, if your BIOS is crap, try only native hotplug > with ACPI hotplug disabled. > > Regards > Oliver > Still nothing if I connect the device with PCI Hotplugging with no ACPI Hotplugging What do I need to do to activate dynamic debugging? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
Am Mittwoch, den 24.01.2018, 09:36 + schrieb Mike Lothian: > > I've played around with this some more, if the device is connected > after boot nothing shows when it's plugged in > > I did however get more messages out when I disconnected the device > after booting with it (see attached) > That is the normal case of PCI disconnect of XHCI and Thunderbolt stuff. It confirms that you have the Intel chipsets that does a PCI disconnect while nothing is plugged in. This really needs PCI hotplugging to work. Could you activate dynamic debugging for PCI and ACPI? You might, if your BIOS is crap, try only native hotplug with ACPI hotplug disabled. Regards Oliver -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 at 08:46 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > PCI Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug are disabled on my system due to bug > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112121 where by my NVMe > > drive would disappear from the system after suspend making my system > > inoperable > > Ah, well that explains why this doesn't work, you need that in order to > have the PCI device show back up again when you plug a device in. > > > I tried enabling PCI Hotplug, PCIE Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug - the > > USB-C device still didn't appear when plugged in > > Really? No kernel messages at all when you plug a device in? > > > The suspend bug still remained and when trying with > > CONFIG_ACPI_PCI_SLOT the whole system refused to boot (unable to find > > systemd), I'm guessing the hard drive didn't enumerate > > It sounds like your machine has a lot of ACPI issues :( > > greg k-h Hi I've played around with this some more, if the device is connected after boot nothing shows when it's plugged in I did however get more messages out when I disconnected the device after booting with it (see attached) Regards Mike dmesg.extra.info.xz Description: application/xz
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 08:39:10AM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 at 04:07 Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > > > connected during boot > > > > > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > > > responding, assume dead > > > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > > > well.) > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > > > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > > > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > > > > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it > > > booted > > > > > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) > > > > I can't see web links at the moment, but are you sure you have PCI > > hotplug enabled in your kernel? Same for ACPI PCI hotplug? That's how > > the controller usually shows up in the system, and that's a PCI issue, > > not a USB issue. > > > > thanks, > > > > greg k-h > > Hi > > PCI Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug are disabled on my system due to bug > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112121 where by my NVMe > drive would disappear from the system after suspend making my system > inoperable Ah, well that explains why this doesn't work, you need that in order to have the PCI device show back up again when you plug a device in. > I tried enabling PCI Hotplug, PCIE Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug - the > USB-C device still didn't appear when plugged in Really? No kernel messages at all when you plug a device in? > The suspend bug still remained and when trying with > CONFIG_ACPI_PCI_SLOT the whole system refused to boot (unable to find > systemd), I'm guessing the hard drive didn't enumerate It sounds like your machine has a lot of ACPI issues :( greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 at 04:07 Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > > connected during boot > > > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > > responding, assume dead > > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > > well.) > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > greg k-h > > > > > > Hi > > > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted > > > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) > > I can't see web links at the moment, but are you sure you have PCI > hotplug enabled in your kernel? Same for ACPI PCI hotplug? That's how > the controller usually shows up in the system, and that's a PCI issue, > not a USB issue. > > thanks, > > greg k-h Hi PCI Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug are disabled on my system due to bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112121 where by my NVMe drive would disappear from the system after suspend making my system inoperable I tried enabling PCI Hotplug, PCIE Hotplug and ACPI Hotplug - the USB-C device still didn't appear when plugged in The suspend bug still remained and when trying with CONFIG_ACPI_PCI_SLOT the whole system refused to boot (unable to find systemd), I'm guessing the hard drive didn't enumerate Regards Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:43:27PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > > bugzilla > > > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > > connected during boot > > > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > > responding, assume dead > > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > > well.) > > > > thanks, > > > > greg k-h > > > Hi > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) I can't see web links at the moment, but are you sure you have PCI hotplug enabled in your kernel? Same for ACPI PCI hotplug? That's how the controller usually shows up in the system, and that's a PCI issue, not a USB issue. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
> > Hi Mike, > > You did not specify what provides the USB-C port. > > I suppose that your USB-C port is actually a Thunderbolt 3 port from an Intel > controller. > > What you describe is a well known bug that affects all Thunderbolt 3 ports > and this bug has always existed in Linux, including until now. > > > I also have a Dell laptop, some Intel NUCs and some ATX motherboards with > Thunderbolt 3 ports, all of which have this bug. > > On the other hand, all the USB C ports that I have seen, which are connected > to other USB controllers, e.g. from ASMedia, those work normally, they do not > have this bug. > > Best regards ! Hi I'm not sure what chip is in the laptop, most of the time it doesn't show up at all Is there a bug report I can follow? Is this issue even being worked on? Thanks Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:43:27 + Mike Lothian wrote: > Hi > > I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one > for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week > http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers > > If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted > > I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) > > Regards > > Mike > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in > the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Hi Mike, You did not specify what provides the USB-C port. I suppose that your USB-C port is actually a Thunderbolt 3 port from an Intel controller. What you describe is a well known bug that affects all Thunderbolt 3 ports and this bug has always existed in Linux, including until now. I also have a Dell laptop, some Intel NUCs and some ATX motherboards with Thunderbolt 3 ports, all of which have this bug. On the other hand, all the USB C ports that I have seen, which are connected to other USB controllers, e.g. from ASMedia, those work normally, they do not have this bug. Best regards ! -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 at 17:30 Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > > Hi > > > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > > bugzilla > > > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > > connected during boot > > > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > > appears in the dmesg: > > > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > > responding, assume dead > > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > > 2015 so this isn't a regression > > Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the > past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS > update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as > well.) > > thanks, > > greg k-h Hi I've applied all BIOS updates for my laptop including the pulled one for Spectre/Meltdown & ME bugs the other week http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukdhs1/product-support/servicetag/8k5w662/drivers If it helps, I don't have this issue in Windows but I rarely have it booted I thought it might have something to do with an ACPI failure (see bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198051) Regards Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 05:12:03PM +, Mike Lothian wrote: > Hi > > I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was > informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in > bugzilla > > So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are > connected during boot > > Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message > appears in the dmesg: > > [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 > [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not > responding, assume dead > [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up > > No further connections or disconnections display anything further in > the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A > > I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of > 2015 so this isn't a regression Is there a BIOS update for the laptop? This has been seen a lot in the past on lots of different laptops but was always resolved by the BIOS update (the latest one for mine also updates the xhci controller as well.) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
USB-C Devices only show up if connected at boot
Hi I raised https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198557 but was informed by Greg bugs should be raised on the mailing list not in bugzilla So USB-C devices only show up in dmesg or for use if they are connected during boot Once booted and the device is disconnected the following message appears in the dmesg: [ 100.814687] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, device number 3 [ 100.882840] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: xHCI host controller not responding, assume dead [ 100.882843] xhci_hcd :39:00.0: HC died; cleaning up No further connections or disconnections display anything further in the dmesg, the device works fine if connected via USB-A I've witnessed this behaviour since getting the laptop at the end of 2015 so this isn't a regression The full dmesg can be seen here https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=273801 Thanks for any help you can offer Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
