Re: Kiwi Online
Thanks everyone for answers. > If you are using the internal winmodem with that driver, it is > normally /dev/modem or on one machine I used it was /dev/ttyS0 > Hope this helps Slmodem-daemon clearly reports me that I have to use /dev/ttySL0. >Read this page, and the outgoing links, carefully:- http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ Yes, it is good source of information, I have started there. I can send my ModemData.txt, if it will be usefull. Testing modem using minicom is something new. I will try and report back. > I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k external, > with a usb to serial connector set up as /dev/ttyUSB0 Did you have any problems with establishing connection using that modem? Any extra drivers? Because I'm thinking of buying usb-modem, if nothing will help. > Get a adsl connection with a switch/router. you will find Linux so much >easier. as we all know win modems are pain to get working. That's great idea, but I for some reasons I have to use dial-up. Thanks, Max
Re: Kiwi Online
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:33 +0300, max podolian wrote: > Thanks everyone for answers. > > > I gave up on winmodems years ago, and use an old dynalink 56k > external, > > with a usb to serial connector set up as /dev/ttyUSB0 > > Did you have any problems with establishing connection using that > modem? Any extra drivers? Because I'm thinking of buying usb-modem, if > nothing will help. I have never had a problem with this set up. However, it is not a usb modem. It is a serial dynalink 56k connected through a usb 2 serial cable. This set up has worked with a several 56k modems, including Diamond Dynalink, usrobetics, and so on. The drivers are included in the kernel, however not all usb2serial connectors seem to work. The last one I purchased from Dick Smith was not compatible with Ubuntu. Trick is to take the laptop and modem with you and test it before you buy. Gnome ppp can detect the modem as /dev/ttyUSB0 if the cable is compatible. Cheers Chris T
why oh why...
... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? I've lost mine again... I know it works as I get a 'click' when a new window opens. But playing anything at all - forget it. System says everything's fine. Gnome sound preferences widget can see both the analog stereo and the usb headset, and is allegedly outputting, at volume 100% to both. alsamixer has all sane values next to it. Just no output on either device. Can anyone point me to a decent, up to date ( this is ubuntu 9.10 ) troubleshooting guide. Or start a project to provide a sane alternative to alsa... (: Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Twisted Hop tomorrow??
Anyone up for it? I don't get out much (: Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: why oh why...
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Steve Holdoway wrote: > ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? > > I've lost mine again... I know it works as I get a 'click' when a new > window opens. But playing anything at all - forget it. > > System says everything's fine. > Gnome sound preferences widget can see both the analog stereo and the > usb headset, and is allegedly outputting, at volume 100% to both. > alsamixer has all sane values next to it. > > Just no output on either device. Can anyone point me to a decent, up to > date ( this is ubuntu 9.10 ) troubleshooting guide. > > Or start a project to provide a sane alternative to alsa... (: You mean like pulseaudio? In fact that's probably where your problem lies. Also you could try unloading and relading the relevant alsa modules.
Re: why oh why...
On Wed, June 16, 2010 09:43, Steve Holdoway wrote: > ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? > > I've lost mine again... I know it works as I get a 'click' when a new > window opens. But playing anything at all - forget it. > > System says everything's fine. > Gnome sound preferences widget can see both the analog stereo and the > usb headset, and is allegedly outputting, at volume 100% to both. > alsamixer has all sane values next to it. > > Just no output on either device. Can anyone point me to a decent, up to > date ( this is ubuntu 9.10 ) troubleshooting guide. > > Or start a project to provide a sane alternative to alsa... (: > > Cheers, > > Steve > I share your frustration with Linux sound. We started with OSS, which was okay *if* you had a card that was supported. Then ALSA came along and it was struggle for a bit in the beginning. To date it still has issues playing from more then one source at a time. So several sound daemons were made, esd, arts, etc. that tried to solve that problem. But then they don't play with apps that need real-time access to the hardware. And finally with the last few versions of Ubuntu there is a push for pulseaudio which I think is utter rubbish. It seems to me the real problem lies in ALSA's inability to work with more then one source. There are some workarounds that disable ALSA from locking the card to one app. I think that 10.04 is better in the PA area... but only just. For my mythtv frontend boxes I remove PA and just use ALSA. For a desktop, you might consider esound (esd) or look at upgrading PA with a PPA to a newer version. BTW, one thing I remember about 9.10 and PA is that sometimes launching the apps from a terminal worked. Yet I wouldn't get sound running from the gnome menus. Might be an environment issue with gnome-session not having access to the PA variables? Cheers, sV
Re: Twisted Hop tomorrow??
On Wed, June 16, 2010 09:46, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Anyone up for it? I don't get out much (: > Same here, maybe it's a geek thing. =) What time, 7-7:30? Cheers, sV
Re: why oh why...
Steve Holdoway wrote: ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? I've lost mine again... I know it works as I get a 'click' when a new window opens. But playing anything at all - forget it. System says everything's fine. Gnome sound preferences widget can see both the analog stereo and the usb headset, and is allegedly outputting, at volume 100% to both. alsamixer has all sane values next to it. Just no output on either device. Can anyone point me to a decent, up to date ( this is ubuntu 9.10 ) troubleshooting guide. Or start a project to provide a sane alternative to alsa... (: Cheers, Steve I dumped pa for alsa and had no probs since. What apps are you using? Barry
Re: why oh why...
Hi, Steve Holdoway wrote: Or start a project to provide a sane alternative to alsa... (: -->they have. It is called pulse. Sound is one area where linux fails quite badly. Indeed, it is proof that linux is not ready for the desktop of the ordinary user. If you cannot get sound to work for you, then what hope does the ordinary person have?? The biggest failing in linux sound is the software design of sound has not realised that the box has a variable number of sound cards. yes. Variable. 1 onboard sound device built into the hardware 1 usbheadset or bluetooth device or whatever that is plugged in/out at random. The asound.conf file architecture don't cope with this. Further - requiring the user to edit this file - which has (I am told) a lisp like syntax is berserk. There is a quote on the topic of sound from someone which (paraphrased) goes like: sound - welcome to the jungle. For the uninformed: Alsa - the only advanced thing about alsa is the first letter.. - rhymes with the word "ulcer". pulse - particularly useless linux sound engineers === I have been cursed with worrying about sound on a linux box for the last ten years. One project has 20 active sound channels (20 mics + 20 speakers) running at the same time. I have boxes here at home used by my family to do web serving flash/youtube. I have read comments from alsa "experts" on the mailing lists. The quality and helpfulness of their answers is apallingly bad. No wonder others struggle. My personal feeling is that sound on linux "has improved", but there is more room for improvement. = Why did it get this bad? Cause the alsa people live in an ivory tower, and don't watch real people use real sound on computers. I think too the management of the sound software libraries on linux have been poor. Not enough time has been spent on getting things 'right'. We have invented new sound systems, rather than fixing the existing sound systems. OSS was fantastic, and worked far better for telephony than pulse/alsa. Ok, rant mode off. However, each of the statements above is true. None are hyperbola.. yes, some lucky people claim to have sound working fine. Try this simple test. put some usb headphones into the computer. head phones work? go to a flash media site - headphones work? altered your asound.conf file yet? Derek. Derek J Smithies Ph.D. Christchurch, New Zealand -- "How did you make it work??" "the usual, got everything right"
Re: why oh why...
Steve Holdoway wrote, On 06/16/2010 09:43 AM: ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? Now I have that damn nursery song in my head... over and over. Thanks, Steve. -- Craig Falconer
Re: why oh why...
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 11:23 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: > Steve Holdoway wrote, On 06/16/2010 09:43 AM: > > ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? > > Now I have that damn nursery song in my head... over and over. > > Thanks, Steve. Any time, young man (: Eventually, a Microsoft solution was used to get it working. Uninstall alsa and pulse audio Install the above *reboot!* Set levels And I got my headphones and usb headset working again. But why did it break in the first place??? Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: why oh why...
> And I got my headphones and usb headset working again. But why did it > break in the first place??? > I got sick of the mic on my USB webcam/mic turning off and connected a mic to the audio-in socket. It has not failed since. -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 228 4698
Re: Twisted Hop tomorrow??
On 16 June 2010 09:46, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Anyone up for it? I don't get out much (: Sounds good.
Re: why oh why...
> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 11:23 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: >> Steve Holdoway wrote, On 06/16/2010 09:43 AM: >> > ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? >> I see there was an update to pulseaudio on Linuxmint/Ubuntu today so that will be the end of all of your problems. He he. Rob
Re: why oh why...
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 14:26 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 11:23 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: > >> Steve Holdoway wrote, On 06/16/2010 09:43 AM: > >> > ... cant linux get it's sound sorted out properly? > >> > I see there was an update to pulseaudio on Linuxmint/Ubuntu today so that > will be the end of all of your problems. He he. > > Rob > More like s/end/start/ in this case... (: Steve -- Steve Holdoway http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
