User Mode Linux Re: New Step
Some of you asked for it, i finally finished it. Feedback is appreciated. Nobody wrote: > Thanks to Net Llama! we now have a Step on setting up User-Mode-Linux with static IP >networking . > You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/uml.html -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:45pm up 45 days, 6:05, 3 users, load average: 0.17, 0.29, 0.47 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
New Step
Thanks to Net Llama! we now have a Step on setting up User-Mode-Linux with static IP networking . You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/uml.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
How about Gentoo, Tim? It's fast & easy after the "pain" of the base install is over. My eWS 3.1.1 is permanently *nuked* Tom Jandl - Original Message - From: "Tim Wunder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2? > On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:03 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:58:41 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 19 September 2002 09:50 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > > > My advice is... go back to the distribution cd, re-install all > > > > that you > > > > suspect is broken. > > arggg! Installing the glibc2.2.4 rpms from eW3.1.1 resulted in an > unusable system, repaired with the linuxcare emergency boot disk > (thanks Lonnie). > > I give up... > RedHat 7.3, here I come. > Many thanks to those who've tried to help me thru this. > > Regards, > Tim > > -- > Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.3, Xfree86 > 4.1.0 > 8:00pm up 5:29, 5 users, load average: 0.52, 0.71, 0.98 > It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
iptables log analysis
anyone got an *existing* script that could list the ports being blocked by iptables in /var/log/messages plus the number of hits. like this: # chkhit /var/log/messages port,hits 25,10 139,1 6112,20 # sorting is not important. I think I need to use perl if I am to write one. can I do it with bash+utils only? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Thursday 19 September 2002 10:03 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:58:41 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 19 September 2002 09:50 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > My advice is... go back to the distribution cd, re-install all that you > > > suspect is broken. arggg! Installing the glibc2.2.4 rpms from eW3.1.1 resulted in an unusable system, repaired with the linuxcare emergency boot disk (thanks Lonnie). I give up... RedHat 7.3, here I come. Many thanks to those who've tried to help me thru this. Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.3, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 5:29, 5 users, load average: 0.52, 0.71, 0.98 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub splash screens revisited
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus-Peter Schrage spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > All of you who neither like the black & white Grub text screen nor the Red > Hat splashimage may d/load some improved screens here: > http://schragehome.de/splash/ > The splash screens are designed to be compliant with Grub's line placement > and not to render unreadable its messages. If you notice any problems, > please let me know. > To use the screens, best put the *xpm.gz file(s) to the /boot/grub folder > and add a line like this near the top of your /boot/grub/menu.lst: > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/sxs_logo_***.xpm.gz > ((hd0,1) = /dev/hda2 is the partition hosting my /boot directory, YMMV). > > Of course, these images are published under the Open Splash Licence which > is not yet written. > Klaus argh! screenshots man! screenshots! I'm not gonna reboot just to see what they are! of course, I could just unzip them and load them in an image viewer, but where's the fun in that? - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org printk(KERN_WARNING "Warning: defective CD-ROM (volume sequence number). Enabling \"cruft\" mount option.\n"); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/isofs/inode.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9io33SrrWWknCnMIRAnCYAJ92uX+8hR3I908MPsdE1FK6ovvXcwCfcMIY iRZ8uzDm/ujfl//u4Hfjrak= =zuA/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Joines spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > During a SuSE install with YaST2, there is an option to save your > settings on a floppy. Supposedly, you can later use this to do > unattended installs on other machines. Jason: please trim your posts. you added 3 lines of text, but the message was 4.3Kb in size. that's a bit much - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9io2sSrrWWknCnMIRAq0nAJ4/B3sBm0UH0j0l6UqU3yuQPsnYKwCfSxmv wHr7gFVjNibxJwEnOaQERgY= =3wg/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Joines spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > I believe what does the undoing is SuSEconfig, instead of YaST2. After > installing or changing something with YaST2, it runs SuSEconfig or you > can run it yourself. You can also disable it and you won't have to > worry about it messing with your changes. you are correct. SuSEconfig is the culprit. and with the 8.0, there is no more monolithic config file. 8.1 (released in upcoming Oct) will be evern less monolithic config and damn near 100$ FHS/LSB compliant - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Design is like a religion - too much of it makes you inflexible and unpopular. - Linus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9io0dSrrWWknCnMIRAthGAKCA6Xg/zNsZYS4ougvx8AQtwFx+QQCfTKsF MjeBRn4Q5NdHFQVEtNExjrQ= =OrA6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:58:41 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 19 September 2002 09:50 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > > Tim, > > > > If you suspect your gcc or glibc is broken in some manor... what makes you > > think you can recompiled a new version and produce a correctly working > > copy? > > > > I've compiled gcc-2.95.3 and it works. And the gcc compile process is s'posed > to be smart enough to account for "broken" gcc's. It compiles the new gcc > with the old gcc in stage1. In stage 2, gcc is rebuilt with the gcc built in > stage 1, in stage 3, gcc is built with the new gcc in stage2. Stage2 and > stage3 files are then compared. > And it would generate a correctly working gcc, even if your glibc had a bug in it?Pretty slick. 8*) > > My advice is... go back to the distribution cd, re-install all that you > > suspect is broken. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 9:49pm up 191 days, 2:58, 6 users, load average: 1.44, 1.43, 1.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Thursday 19 September 2002 09:50 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: > Tim, > > If you suspect your gcc or glibc is broken in some manor... what makes you > think you can recompiled a new version and produce a correctly working > copy? > I've compiled gcc-2.95.3 and it works. And the gcc compile process is s'posed to be smart enough to account for "broken" gcc's. It compiles the new gcc with the old gcc in stage1. In stage 2, gcc is rebuilt with the gcc built in stage 1, in stage 3, gcc is built with the new gcc in stage2. Stage2 and stage3 files are then compared. > My advice is... go back to the distribution cd, re-install all that you > suspect is broken. If you reinstall glibc, it's best to shutdown and > restart before you do much else with your setup... > I'm gonna try gcc3.2 first. Call me crazy... > That said, I found the kde 2.2.2 source tarballs at ftp.rutgers.org. If any > one here needs or would like a complete copy, just ask. > glad to hear it > I'm recompiling the sources with the newer objprelink-2 and using the > combreloc of ld... this ought to be a pretty fast binary, even on very old > hardware. I hope... :') > Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.3, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 5:29, 5 users, load average: 0.52, 0.71, 0.98 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
Tim, If you suspect your gcc or glibc is broken in some manor... what makes you think you can recompiled a new version and produce a correctly working copy? My advice is... go back to the distribution cd, re-install all that you suspect is broken. If you reinstall glibc, it's best to shutdown and restart before you do much else with your setup... That said, I found the kde 2.2.2 source tarballs at ftp.rutgers.org. If any one here needs or would like a complete copy, just ask. I'm recompiling the sources with the newer objprelink-2 and using the combreloc of ld... this ought to be a pretty fast binary, even on very old hardware. I hope... :') Cheers all. On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:40:35 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ---snip--- > Well, 2.95.3 doesn't solve the problem. > According to http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/glib-linux-archive/0110/0007.html, I > need to get the latest 2.95.4pre source and apply the referenced pathc. > Problem is, that link is rather dated, and, well, the patch will likely not > work on 2.95.3 source code. 3.1.1 should fix my problem, but I *still* can't > get that to compile. > > If any kind soul wants to wander into #linux-users at irc.openprojects.net and > > give me a suggestion on how to *fix* this, I'll be quite happy... > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 9:32pm up 191 days, 2:41, 6 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 02:13 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: > > Well, I may just have to try that since it looks like compiling 3.1.1 is > failing: > case "compare" in compare | compare-lean ) stage=2 ;; * ) stage=`echo > compare | sed -e 's,^compare\([0-9][0-9]*\).*,\1,'` ;; esac; \ > if [ -f .bad_compare ]; then \ >echo "Bootstrap comparison failure!"; \ >cat .bad_compare; \ >exit 1; \ > else \ >case "compare" in \ > *-lean ) rm -rf stage$stage ;; \ > *) ;; \ >esac; true; \ > fi > Bootstrap comparison failure! > combine.o differs > dwarf2out.o differs > emit-rtl.o differs > gcc.o differs > gcse.o differs > real.o differs > regrename.o differs > ssa.o differs > tree.o differs > cp/decl.o differs > f/ste.o differs > java/class.o differs > make[1]: *** [compare] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/data/Source_files/gcc/gcc-build/gcc' > make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2 > Well, 2.95.3 doesn't solve the problem. According to http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/glib-linux-archive/0110/0007.html, I need to get the latest 2.95.4pre source and apply the referenced pathc. Problem is, that link is rather dated, and, well, the patch will likely not work on 2.95.3 source code. 3.1.1 should fix my problem, but I *still* can't get that to compile. If any kind soul wants to wander into #linux-users at irc.openprojects.net and give me a suggestion on how to *fix* this, I'll be quite happy... Regards, Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.3, Xfree86 4.1.0 8:00pm up 5:29, 5 users, load average: 0.52, 0.71, 0.98 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Free Software Foundation's open letter to the UnitedLinuxBoard
Jim Bonnet wrote: > m.w.chang wrote: > >> >> Mr. Love and his comrades offending another bunch of people after >> freeloaders? >> >> http://www.lwn.net/Articles/10257/ >> > With all do respect- > Do you understand that Ransom Love IS NOT A PART OF UNITED LINUX AT ALL? > Why make statements when you obviously don't know the facts. Agreed 100%. m.w., you're making a fool of yourself with your insesant wisecraks regarding Ransom Love. > > http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=229 > > > Further so we don't start spreading FUD, The UL Closed Beta WAS > distributed like ANY other version of Linux, with 2 CD's and one sources > CD. *ahem* redhat limbo *ahem* -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05pm up 45 days, 2:25, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.09, 0.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updated Step
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:38:33 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:21:47 -0400 > begin Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:42:54 -0400 Nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/ to incorporate the > > > > following: > > > > > > I was awaiting this with breathless anticipation! > > > > smartass :) > > someone who can sit on an ice cream cone and tell you what flavor it > is;-^) > Nope, just a troll who's happy with life under the bridge! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? - Code Python gentoo(since 01/01/01) now 1.4beta kernel 2.4.18+ ext3 GCC3.2 xfce-sylpheed-skipstone ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
Jason Joines wrote: > > Bill Campbell wrote: > > >On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:09:38PM -0400, dep wrote: > > > > > >>just finished participating in the ul news conference. many > >>interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is > >>out. i wrote it up here: > >> > >>http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=229 > >> > >> > > > >The part about the installation/management being done via YAST may well be > >enough to keep me from going with UnitedLinux. YAST has been the main > >reason we haven't done anything serious with SuSE. I don't like the idea > >of the monolithic configuration that makes it difficult for the > >knowledgeable admin to make changes without fear of having them undone the > >next time somebody runs YAST. > > > >Bill > >-- > >INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC > >UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way > >FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 > >URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > > > >``I don't care how little your country is, you got a right to run it like > >you want to. When the big nations quit meddling, then the world will have > >peace.'' > >Will Rogers > >___ > >Linux-users mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > > > > > I believe what does the undoing is SuSEconfig, instead of YaST2. After > installing or changing something with YaST2, it runs SuSEconfig or you > can run it yourself. You can also disable it and you won't have to > worry about it messing with your changes. > > Jason Joines > Open Source = Open Mind Use SeSE7.2. Yast and SuSE Config are root functions. Only way they can be run is by the system administrator or a user with root permissions or password. Thus the Yast/SuSE.conf problem is not a system problem but a system administrator problem. Lee > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
grub splash screens revisited
All of you who neither like the black & white Grub text screen nor the Red Hat splashimage may d/load some improved screens here: http://schragehome.de/splash/ The splash screens are designed to be compliant with Grub's line placement and not to render unreadable its messages. If you notice any problems, please let me know. To use the screens, best put the *xpm.gz file(s) to the /boot/grub folder and add a line like this near the top of your /boot/grub/menu.lst: splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/sxs_logo_***.xpm.gz ((hd0,1) = /dev/hda2 is the partition hosting my /boot directory, YMMV). Of course, these images are published under the Open Splash Licence which is not yet written. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
Federico Voges wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:54:16 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:09:38PM -0400, dep wrote: > > >just finished participating in the ul news conference. many > >interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is > >out. i wrote it up here: > > > >http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=229 > > The part about the installation/management being done via YAST may well be > enough to keep me from going with UnitedLinux. YAST has been the main > reason we haven't done anything serious with SuSE. I don't like the idea > of the monolithic configuration that makes it difficult for the > knowledgeable admin to make changes without fear of having them undone the > next time somebody runs YAST. > > > Besides that, I really like Lizard because you can start the install, > set all the configuration options and leave the installation running. > When you came back, you have the system installed. You don't have to > stay arround answering questions every three install steps (and wait > for reboots, etc). > > What I'd really like is and unatended install option that is well > documenten and easy to setup. Lizard unatended install is almost > imposible to understand and a pain to setup. > > I must confest that RedHat's kickstart is good (at least is easy to > understand and configure). The big problem is that the gui has about 50 > dependencies. The first time I used it I installed it on a minimal > system and ended up with allmost a full install ;) > > > Federico Voges > Socio gerente > > Intrasoft > Malabia 2137 14 A > (1425) Buenos Aires > Argentina > > Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar > > PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users During a SuSE install with YaST2, there is an option to save your settings on a floppy. Supposedly, you can later use this to do unattended installs on other machines. Jason Joines Open Source = Open Mind ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: unitedlinux news conference
Bill Campbell wrote: >On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:09:38PM -0400, dep wrote: > > >>just finished participating in the ul news conference. many >>interesting developments, not the least being that ransom love is >>out. i wrote it up here: >> >>http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=229 >> >> > >The part about the installation/management being done via YAST may well be >enough to keep me from going with UnitedLinux. YAST has been the main >reason we haven't done anything serious with SuSE. I don't like the idea >of the monolithic configuration that makes it difficult for the >knowledgeable admin to make changes without fear of having them undone the >next time somebody runs YAST. > >Bill >-- >INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC >UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way >FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 >URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > >``I don't care how little your country is, you got a right to run it like >you want to. When the big nations quit meddling, then the world will have >peace.'' >Will Rogers >___ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > I believe what does the undoing is SuSEconfig, instead of YaST2. After installing or changing something with YaST2, it runs SuSEconfig or you can run it yourself. You can also disable it and you won't have to worry about it messing with your changes. Jason Joines Open Source = Open Mind ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small computer
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 05:22:13AM -0500, ronnie gauthier wrote: >A while ago someone had asked about small sized computer boxes. You >could darn near slip this one in your pocket. >http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=n52-1042 Tigerdirect is a ground breaking company. They were one of the first to send us unsolicited faxes, and e-mail. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``The fact is that the Constitution was indended to protect us from the government, and we cannot expect the government to enforce it willingly'' -- Dave E. Hoffmann, Reason Magazine March 2002 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Free Software Foundation's open letter to theUnitedLinuxBoard
Jim Bonnet wrote: > > m.w.chang wrote: > > >Snip > > Mr. Love and his comrades offending another bunch of people after > > freeloaders? > > > > http://www.lwn.net/Articles/10257/ > > > Further my .02$- The author needed to do some more research and checking: > > 1) Get a spell checker > > > 3) Goto http://www.caldera.com/products/beta/ and see for his self how > the closed beta was distributed by SCO > > Regards- > Jim Bonnet Believe the word is supposed to be himself (one word) not his self. As far as Love, he was there long enough to leave behind his copy of "Sam's Linux Business Foulups for idiots." Lee > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Free Software Foundation's open letter to the UnitedLinuxBoard
On Thursday 19 September 2002 08:22 am, you wrote: > Further so we don't start spreading FUD, The UL Closed Beta WAS > distributed like ANY other version of Linux, with 2 CD's and one sources > CD. > > Further my .02$- The author needed to do some more research and checking: > > 1) Get a spell checker > > 2) Send the mail to someone besides WEBMASTER?! at unitedlinux.com and > the alias's associated with each of the 4 companies. The names of > parties involved with UL were listed in the conference call if they > listened. > > 3) Goto http://www.caldera.com/products/beta/ and see for his self how > the closed beta was distributed by SCO > > Regards- > Jim Bonnet Yeah... don't confuse us with the facts, its more fun to call SCO a parasite. :) Cheers, Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Free Software Foundation's open letter to the UnitedLinuxBoard
m.w.chang wrote: > > Mr. Love and his comrades offending another bunch of people after > freeloaders? > > http://www.lwn.net/Articles/10257/ > With all do respect- Do you understand that Ransom Love IS NOT A PART OF UNITED LINUX AT ALL? Why make statements when you obviously don't know the facts. http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=229 Further so we don't start spreading FUD, The UL Closed Beta WAS distributed like ANY other version of Linux, with 2 CD's and one sources CD. Further my .02$- The author needed to do some more research and checking: 1) Get a spell checker 2) Send the mail to someone besides WEBMASTER?! at unitedlinux.com and the alias's associated with each of the 4 companies. The names of parties involved with UL were listed in the conference call if they listened. 3) Goto http://www.caldera.com/products/beta/ and see for his self how the closed beta was distributed by SCO Regards- Jim Bonnet ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Updated Step
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:21:47 -0400 begin Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Collins spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:42:54 -0400 Nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/ to incorporate the > > > following: > > > > I was awaiting this with breathless anticipation! > > smartass :) someone who can sit on an ice cream cone and tell you what flavor it is ;-^) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On 9/19/2002 12:49 AM, someone claiming to be Collins wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:51:43 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with >>the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? I suppose I *could* install multiple >> >>compilers and figger this out on my own, but I was hoping someone >>with more experience would offer a clue. I'm leaning toward trying >>3.1.1. >> > > > You have no compelling reason to upgrade the compiler unless you just > like to tinker. That being said, why 3.1.1 when 3.2 is the more or > less stable version of the new compiler? > From what I've read, there are potential problems with 3.2 and KDE/QT. But, it doesn't matter, 3.1.1 wouldn't compile for me and I suspect that 3.2 wouldn't either. I took Doug's advice and compiled/installed 2.95.3 last night. My compelling reason to upgrade the compiler is that, according to most of the information I found, an upgraded compiler was required for compiling with glibc-2.2.5. I upgraded glibc to 2.2.5 because I was having compile problems, kept getting atexit errors that seemed to be attributed to a problem with glibc. As of right now, it looks like I'm on the path to finally fixing my system. gcc-2.95.3 installed beautifully last night, and 'make World' of xfree86-4.2.1 completed without any atexit errors. Today, my project is to do a 'make install' in X and see if I can get that to work. Then, to find out if *that* finally fixes the problem I'm having with OpenOffice.org-1.0.1 crashing X. But, as I said, that's only the way it looks *right now*... Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Update GCC from 2.95.2: 2.95.3, 3.1.1, or 3.2?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:51:43 -0400 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, my question is: Should I update to gcc 3.2, 3.1.1 or stick with > the 2.95.x tree and use 2.95.3? I suppose I *could* install multiple > > compilers and figger this out on my own, but I was hoping someone > with more experience would offer a clue. I'm leaning toward trying > 3.1.1. > You have no compelling reason to upgrade the compiler unless you just like to tinker. That being said, why 3.1.1 when 3.2 is the more or less stable version of the new compiler? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? - Code Python gentoo(since 01/01/01) now 1.4beta kernel 2.4.18+ ext3 GCC3.2 xfce-sylpheed-skipstone ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small computer
I asked. I have seen this. It is quite nice. The proviso on my question was that it had to hold a full length PCI card. On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 05:22:13 -0500 ronnie gauthier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A while ago someone had asked about small sized computer boxes. You > could darn near slip this one in your pocket. > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=n52-1042 > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> > http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
small computer
A while ago someone had asked about small sized computer boxes. You could darn near slip this one in your pocket. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=n52-1042 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
The Free Software Foundation's open letter to the UnitedLinux Board
Mr. Love and his comrades offending another bunch of people after freeloaders? http://www.lwn.net/Articles/10257/ -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
