Re: 'nice' or something like it
All this exists in 2.4. However, I only have seen nice as a command line interface to this. If you have a C program that you want to change, you can look at the getpriortiy/setpriotiry commands. They are only available form a C program. One of the Linux process scheduling modes (SCHED_RR) is what you are after. It is similar to the default mode, excepteach process is only allowed to run for a maximum time quantum. But, as I say, I have not seen a command line interface to this. At least not in my distro. Maybe there is a package out there that will let you do this. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: Is there any way to tell the system to give a certain process no more than x% of the CPU? 'nice' seems to only change the scheduling priority, but a single process can still use 100% indefinitely if there is no competition. I have an app I want to throttle even if the system is otherwise idle. Under the 2.2.x kernels there was the kernel fair-scheduling patch which did this. I don't know that there is anything like that under 2.4.x. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Set system date time
dont' miss the step-by-step article on setting system time. Many thanks for reply. dl ntp rdate now -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22 ^ ^8:50pm up 5 days, 8:41, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Set system date time
Bill rdate worked very nice. many thanks -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Has open software gone nuts?
http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[COLUG] Interesting Article
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Copyright Lawsuit Is Turnabout for SCO October 13, 2003 By JOHN MARKOFF SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 12 - The SCO Group, the company that touched off a computer industry slugfest last spring by suing I.B.M. over its use of Unix software, may find itself embarrassed by a similar claim against a company once related to SCO. Since filing a lawsuit claiming that I.B.M. added parts of the Unix operating system to the freely distributed Linux software, SCO has threatened other computer companies, the open source software movement and hundreds of corporations that rely on Linux, saying they are unfairly using Unix software that SCO owns. But in an unpublicized case, one of SCO's former sister companies, Lineo, has agreed to quietly settle a third party's accusations that it engaged in the same kind of copyright infringement that is at the heart of SCO's claim against I.B.M., industry executives who have been briefed on the matter said. The case spotlights the behind-the-scenes role of Canopy, an investment firm formed by Ray Noorda, the founder of Novell and a personal computer industry pioneer. Canopy is SCO's largest shareholder and formerly controlled Lineo. Mr. Noorda, who has retired, acquired the rights to the Unix operating system from ATT in 1992 while he was running Novell. He hoped to use Unix in his strategy to compete with Microsoft. Later that strategy shifted to backing the freely distributed Linux operating system, and Mr. Noorda helped finance a number of Linux software companies, including Caldera Systems, which last year changed its name to SCO Group. Lineo, was spun out of Caldera in 1999 and sold to Motorola last December. Lineo was sued last year by MontaVista, a maker of software for specialized computers used in consumer and industrial applications that is based in Sunnyvale, Calif. The MontaVista executives said they had been notified that software their programmers had written and licensed under the GNU General Public License - the license that governs companies that distribute Linux software - had appeared, with copyrights removed, in Lineo's software. The license, which allows for the free distribution of software, still requires that the copyright notices be retained. Neither side would comment on the settlement, which was put under a court seal last month. SCO, based in Lindon, Utah, has been pursuing its litigation since shortly after Darl McBride took over as chief executive in June 2001 and decided that the company's commercial Linux strategy was failing. Under Mr. McBride, SCO has aggressively pursued what it contends are its intellectual property rights over the parts of the Unix operating system that it says I.B.M. transferred to Linux. IBM and others in the open source movement note that SCO has provided little, if any, public evidence that its copyright has been violated. Canopy is now SCO's largest shareholder, with two seats on the company's board, and has played an important role, analysts say, in shaping SCO's legal strategy. All roads lead to Canopy, said Laura Didio, a computer industry analyst at the Yankee Group. They've been pretty clever in the way they've played this. Although it styles itself as a low-profile early stage investment firm, Canopy has had other significant legal successes. In 2000 the firm won a $250 million antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft over its earlier DOS operating system. In August another Canopy-owned company, Center 7, won a $40 million ruling against Computer Associates. Although neither party would comment on why the Lineo-MontaVista lawsuit had been sealed, legal experts said that it was probably because it might have a direct bearing on the dispute between SCO and I.B.M. One possibility involves a legal defense known as innocent infringement in which a copyright violator infringes unknowingly. If it became public knowledge that Lineo admitted guilt but settled for a relatively trivial sum by invoking that argument, it might come back to haunt SCO. If there are transcripts and pleadings that have been sealed in which Lineo makes the innocent infringement argument, that's a defense that I.B.M. and others could use in their lawsuits, said Jack Russo, an intellectual property lawyer at Russo and Hale in Palo Alto, Calif. There is not a lot of law in this area and my sense is they are worried that this is something that I.B.M. could run with. In a telephone interview, Canopy's chief executive acknowledged that Lineo had infringed on MontaVista's copyrights but blamed the transgression on the work of Hexamark Technologies, an Indian outsourcing company that worked for Lineo. This story may speak more to the dangers and cautions of working with these outsourced companies, said Ralph Yarro, chief executive of the Canopy Group. He added that when the incident took place Canopy was no longer the majority shareholder of Lineo. Mr. Yarro, who is also chairman of SCO and led Canopy's
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could loosely be expressed as what is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine. I personally don't believe that such an interpretation has any real benefit, although I'm certain that proponents of the GPL might disagree. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Set system date time
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: Bill rdate worked very nice. many thanks Glad I could help. I don't think rdate sets the hardware clock though so you may want to run ``hwclock -u -w'' to update that from the correct system time. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on. -- William S. Burroughs ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could loosely be expressed as what is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine. I personally don't believe that such an interpretation has any real benefit, although I'm certain that proponents of the GPL might disagree. There is no interpretation. The GPL clearly explicitly requires that you release the source for your work, and all derrivitive works. The FSF is enforcing that requirement. I'll ask again, how would you propose that the GPL be enforced, if not via: 0) Polite requests, then if ignored 1) Less polite requests, then if still ignored 2) Legal action -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:59:18 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. I see nothing wrong with it. How would you propose that the GPL be enforced? What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could loosely be expressed as what is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine. I personally don't believe that such an interpretation has any real benefit, although I'm certain that proponents of the GPL might disagree. No. The GPL simply means that if you distribute software that I wrote or a derivative thereof, you must distribute it under the GPL. If you don't want to, then don't use my code. Write your own. At least the GPL gives you the choice. Think about it. Do you want to spend your time writing a piece of software, distribute it along with the source code so that others can improve upon it, and have someone steal it and close the source. Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Hawking Switches [OT]
Does anyone out there have any familiarity/feelings/horror stories with/for/about Hawking Technologies switches? In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no interpretation. The GPL clearly explicitly requires that you release the source for your work, and all derrivitive works. The FSF is enforcing that requirement. I'll ask again, how would you propose that the GPL be enforced, if not via: 0) Polite requests, then if ignored 1) Less polite requests, then if still ignored 2) Legal action Right. If anyone takes the GPL source they also take the licence. Don't like the GPL? Don't use GPL'd software. Actually, some people winding up this situation, (vide Subject) when clearly it is at a reasonable, and debated level, is not helpful to the OSS and FSF positions. It helps create quotable internal squabbles arguments for those whose livelihoods depend on M$ continued monopoly of the market* ( *US government agreed). Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hawking Switches [OT]
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 16:46, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Does anyone out there have any familiarity/feelings/horror stories with/for/about Hawking Technologies switches? I have one of the small 5 port (non managed) autosensing ones for home. I like that I can use any port for the uplink. My one complaint is that it seems to run pretty warm, but I haven't noticed any problems because of that. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:38:07 -0600 http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. If copyrights are not enforced the courts rule that they are not enforcable. The GPL is very clear that if you choose to use GPL code, you must release your changes, with source, to the general community. You can always choose to write your own. This does have bearing on the SCO circus. If the GPL is not defended, some elements of the case get even more muddy and linux could lose more than just the FUD war. -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
Quoth Collins Richey: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. Naturally, you're reading a slanted article from a magazine that doesn't understand the issues. Linksys and Broadcom tried to pull a fast one, got caught, and now are engaging in spin control via the media. Kurt -- Your lucky number is 3552664958674928. Watch for it everywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
Collins Richey wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html This type of legal-schmegal wrangling is what we expect from SCO and its brethren. It smells no better when it comes from OSS. Business's ultimate goal is to be a monopoly in the particular area they inhabit and to have that monopoly requires that you have exclusive access to whatever your product / idea is and that no one can duplicate your work. If you are a programmer then you (generally) get paid to code. Companies want that `one time' investment to be multiplied by a large return. So letting the code out isn't going to keep people locked in. Hence the general incompatibility with GPL'd software. So reading this article I noticed that the writer was trying to bias the readers thinking toward `the FSF uses the GPL to dredge for hush money'. However at no point do we see the similar levels of legal maneuvering, trickery and mischief at law that characterise the SCO case. The GPL, in my opinion, seeks to dislodge the culture of greed that large multi-national companies pursue, and to allow the technology age to be available to 3rd world and under priviledged people no matter what nation they exist in. However the cost is, as stated in the article, that if you build on the GPL then it's an open house. -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 When you're not looking at it, this fortune is written in FORTRAN. Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 10:10:00 up 11 days, 8:11, 1 user, load average: 2.16, 2.15, 1.77 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hawking Switches [OT]
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:46:59 -0700 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone out there have any familiarity/feelings/horror stories with/for/about Hawking Technologies switches? Not their switches, but their ADSL Routers. Bought several AR-710 BlackHawks. They work just fine. A little more expensive than some others, but they serve me well. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Set system date time
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:50:34 +0800 M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont' miss the step-by-step article on setting system time. Many thanks for reply. dl ntp rdate now -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22 ^ ^8:50pm up 5 days, 8:41, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users MW I guess I missed that, I did look ,but may have had bad eye sight. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
