Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: I have all the time needed but not the expertise anymore. The only thing that I can contribute is time and labour, there would have to be a dedicated list for this too, easy nuff I guess. dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org printk(MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke!\n); -- 2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_MASQUERADE.c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/KRsP2MO5UukaubkRApqxAKCUsS8qzRQ1Mdsrz75/LUSGPpvQJgCdE4ZT PRWskJX15B8WUGFwRjUTM9A= =oPwY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Doug, mate! Do you not remember one angry old fart a couple of years ago that was not going to let go of Caldera. He tried updating for a while till he became a real nuciance on a certain list. It became too involved and masochistic even though I do have leanings that way. Not only that my memory retention spans 90 seconds. I remember. I also remember personally maintaining my eD 2.4 and submitting the notes to you, Kurt, Marcus and others.. Learned a hell of a lot trying to figure out how Caldera had to do things 'their' way for this package, and 'that' way for this other package... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you being competent. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/KRt12MO5UukaubkRAiZ9AKCbDXG5ayWAJjvXyMKbF3vOHU1zkwCdEvPr rUHXQbzc6NXWoZ/AFRslnac= =Vi/F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:36 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Doug, mate! Do you not remember one angry old fart a couple of years ago that was not going to let go of Caldera. He tried updating for a while till he became a real nuciance on a certain list. It became too involved and masochistic even though I do have leanings that way. Not only that my memory retention spans 90 seconds. I remember. I also remember personally maintaining my eD 2.4 and submitting the notes to you, Kurt, Marcus and others.. Learned a hell of a lot trying to figure out how Caldera had to do things 'their' way for this package, and 'that' way for this other package... Umm, yes there were quite a few of us involved at the time. That is the frustrating tart for me in that in a short time my memory has got so faulty. If I do not do thing repetitiously or within a short space of time the knowledge is lost. I also do not have a copy of Caldera anymore. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:13:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. There's a lot of that going around. As of yesterday I am a layoff statistic. My prior employer has been laying off 30-50 people a quarter for as long as I can remember. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
Quoth Collins Richey: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:13:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. There's a lot of that going around. As of yesterday I am a layoff statistic. My prior employer has been laying off 30-50 people a quarter for as long as I can remember. Sorry to hear that, Collins. Their loss. Kurt -- It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this. -- Bertrand Russell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:01:04 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Collins Richey: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:13:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. There's a lot of that going around. As of yesterday I am a layoff statistic. My prior employer has been laying off 30-50 people a quarter for as long as I can remember. Sorry to hear that, Collins. Their loss. If I had just a little more cold hard cash laid away, I would say my gain. I enjoyed my work, but I never realized the almost invisible stress that I was subjected to. I'm sleeping better, wide awake and alert in the daytime. This should last until I start the interview process grin. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On 07/31/03 19:25, Collins Richey wrote: If I had just a little more cold hard cash laid away, I would say my gain. I enjoyed my work, but I never realized the almost invisible stress that I was subjected to. I'm sleeping better, wide awake and alert in the daytime. This should last until I start the interview process grin. best of luck. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:25pm up 16 days, 22:08, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.14, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:05 am, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:13:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:35 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: dedicated lists (yes plural), CVS repository, and various other 'needs' can be up and running in minutes. Since I'm currently unemployed, I got nothing else taking up my time... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Oh! so you have retired too grin. There's a lot of that going around. As of yesterday I am a layoff statistic. My prior employer has been laying off 30-50 people a quarter for as long as I can remember. I was lucky and got retired before this all came in. The problem is that if you are over 25 your ratshit these days. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
Keith Antoine wrote: I was lucky and got retired before this all came in. The problem is that if you are over 25 your ratshit these days. The senior menu in nice at restaurants. ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on why is this a pipe dream? almost the whole damn distro is 100% OSS (the only exceptions being a little bit of the management guis). I'm sure the community could certainly break out an old copy of eD 2.4 and then make it current hell, we could even provide resources for it on the SxS site (within reason) We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in starting such a project unless: 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion I'm quite happy to get involved with this, but i don't want to spend many hours for something that will die from neglect. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking: We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in starting such a project unless: 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion I'm quite happy to get involved with this, but i don't want to spend many hours for something that will die from neglect. true dat. just want to keep reminding people that if they are willing to put their money where their mouth is, we can help a lot... - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org Whatever kind of look you were going for,.. you missed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/KBE22MO5UukaubkRAmX4AJ9lBFa4dOAfV3ksAcn8lt1uyzK4sACgmPca MBC4Fnkn1FKEvbKxbwSPXdc= =fbmr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote: Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking: We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in starting such a project unless: 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion I'm quite happy to get involved with this, but i don't want to spend many hours for something that will die from neglect. true dat. just want to keep reminding people that if they are willing to put their money where their mouth is, we can help a lot... Indeed. I've got lots of ideas, but i don't have the time or skillz to do it solo. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:12 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking: Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on why is this a pipe dream? almost the whole damn distro is 100% OSS (the only exceptions being a little bit of the management guis). I'm sure the community could certainly break out an old copy of eD 2.4 and then make it current hell, we could even provide resources for it on the SxS site (within reason) - -- Doug, mate! Do you not remember one angry old fart a couple of years ago that was not going to let go of Caldera. He tried updating for a while till he became a real nuciance on a certain list. It became too involved and masochistic even though I do have leanings that way. Not only that my memory retention spans 90 seconds. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:40 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: true dat. just want to keep reminding people that if they are willing to put their money where their mouth is, we can help a lot... I have all the time needed but not the expertise anymore. The only thing that I can contribute is time and labour, there would have to be a dedicated list for this too, easy nuff I guess. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:39 am, Net Llama! wrote: We've gone this route before. I mentioend that there's no point in starting such a project unless: 0) A sufficient number of people are willing to contribute 1) All of those people have the time to see it through to completion I'm quite happy to get involved with this, but i don't want to spend many hours for something that will die from neglect. I agree it could be done, but I proved that a lone yachtsman was not the way. It would have to be a comitted group effort. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:48 am, Net Llama! wrote: Indeed. I've got lots of ideas, but i don't have the time or skillz to do it solo. Ummm, just as a test case, are there people out there interested enough to get involved, as advisors and ideas men plus wall bouncers grin. WARNING, this could be addictive. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bring back eD? (was Re: I am dissatisfied)
Doug, Skippy I am in school finally in last year, 5 classes left, I would like to join in an adventure like this. I still like the old Calder 2.4 system some of the 3.1.1 too. I am an experinced developer, but never on a system lke this. There are some thing I would like to see too. It will take many of us and some one of Kurt, DEP, Bruce types to guide the project I would assume. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
