Re: sdX? Shozbot.
The assignment order is part of the SCSI standard. In fact, the logcial device numbers(s), LUN number(s) and SCSI ID number(s) are all ordered per the standard. Oh please, Peck, stop taking the pillz slap The scsi standards have nothing to do with the mismanagement in applied design at the Linux front end. It's a dog's breakfast discovering which unit is assigned what. As Bill pointed out, having used your faithful hard drive Lun=6 , you install 'something else' at Lun=2 and bang, your hard drive has gone awol. Pure and simple, this is a poorly thought out part of the driver topology. Complaining about it is as useful as saying all cheese should be green, I'm not complaining, I'm asking for the /source/documentation for some overides as I know they existed in Kernel 2.2x and am looking for same at 2.4x ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: sdX? Shozbot.
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:38:20 -1200 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The assignment order is part of the SCSI standard. In fact, the logcial device numbers(s), LUN number(s) and SCSI ID number(s) are all ordered per the standard. Oh please, Peck, stop taking the pillz slap OK... Here is the deal regarding Linux and SCSI, afaict: Every project, from the SANE people all the way to those who wrote the /dev bullsh!t They have no standard and make it up as they go. They use whatever sd* or sg* they damn well please, when they please. There is no guidance. It's a matter of time until multiple projects are using the same device assignment. Won't that be fun...?... I approached the SANE people about this and they got ugly about it. But, that's OK because the way that group of rocket doctors put thier backend together, they are gonna be one of the first ones to shoot themselves. Incidentally, have you ever looked at the crap (errr... I mean code) the SANE people call an API? I'm asking for the /source/documentation for some overides as I know they existed in Kernel 2.2x and am looking for same at 2.4x Since you are voluteering, why don't you write the Linux standard for SCSI device assignments. The timing is right All the Kernel people know this needs to be addressed *now* and I'm sure they'd love your help. If they let you, I'll help. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
sdX? Shozbot.
I'm doing some research into this permanent #)(*)(*#$_ pain in the posterior when mounting scsi devices. There is, or was, a kernel append statement that would pre-empt this nonsense and assign hard numbers, does anyone know where that info is? -- http://linux-sxs.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: sdX? Shozbot.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 04:00:09PM -0800, Net Llama wrote: Mike, what pain in the ass are you referring to here?? My guess would be the assignment of device names. Generally they're assigned in order of SCSI-ID and host adapter. The first SCSI hard drive found is /dev/sda1, second, /dev/sda2, etc. The time this can be a severe pain is if one has installed a primary hard drive using the default settings from the vendor (often SCSI-ID=6 since they supply two jumpers), and a new drive is installed with a lower ID. It helps to have a systematic plan when setting up SCSI devices. Being an old SCO hand, I tend to put the tape no ID=2 and CD on ID=5 because that was their standard starting on my first Tandy 4000 386-16 running Xenix. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. From the moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.'' Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler. Date unknown. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
