Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:45, Bill Campbell wrote: I've always found Compaq and HP to be a PITA to work with because lots of things are proprietary, require special drivers, and even use non-standard mounting hardware. Ditto. I've never considered either of these boxen, at any time, for a Linux install. Clearly others have had good experiences though. Point is, I just don't purchase these animals because of their propretary innards. HP would the only 'like minded' Company that would want to purchase Compaq (or vice versa). -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
I use them for our frontdesk software. Last batch I bought, even though I was assured they had W98se came with ME. I wiped out ME and installed SEwhat a chore. Took me half a day to get them running right. But their business rated machines are very reliable. Have not tried to put linny on them though. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:45, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:45, Bill Campbell wrote: I've always found Compaq and HP to be a PITA to work with because lots of things are proprietary, require special drivers, and even use non-standard mounting hardware. Ditto. I've never considered either of these boxen, at any time, for a Linux install. Clearly others have had good experiences though. Point is, I just don't purchase these animals because of their propretary innards. HP would the only 'like minded' Company that would want to purchase Compaq (or vice versa). -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
HP to buy Compaq?!?
As you've all no doubt heard by now, HP is gobbling up Compaq for $25billion (US) making them #2 in the market... What does this bode for Dell? What will this mean for future Linux support? HP is fairly Linux-friendly...in my experience at least. Thoughts? -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
--- DOUGLAS HUNLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you've all no doubt heard by now, HP is gobbling up Compaq for $25billion (US) making them #2 in the market... What does this bode for Dell? What will this mean for future Linux support? HP is fairly Linux-friendly...in my experience at least. Thoughts? I'm not so sure how good it is. Neither of them were doing too well financially recently. Both laid off several thousand. Compaq announced that they were getting out of the workstation business. HP has been getting slaughtered in the workstation business. Since neither had a clue how to make it on their own, i dont' see how that will change together. FWIW, yes they are both supporters of Linux. Both had huge booths at Linuxworld, and both have fairly large internal sourceforge deployments. I expect massive layoffs from both, since there is quite a bit of overlap between the two companies. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
--- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 09:13, Net Llama wrote: --- DOUGLAS HUNLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you've all no doubt heard by now, HP is gobbling up Compaq for $25billion (US) making them #2 in the market... What does this bode for Dell? What will this mean for future Linux support? HP is fairly Linux-friendly...in my experience at least. Thoughts? I'm not so sure how good it is. Neither of them were doing too well financially recently. Both laid off several thousand. Compaq announced that they were getting out of the workstation business. HP has been getting slaughtered in the workstation business. Since neither had a clue how to make it on their own, i dont' see how that will change together. FWIW, yes they are both supporters of Linux. Both had huge booths at Linuxworld, and both have fairly large internal sourceforge deployments. I expect massive layoffs from both, since there is quite a bit of overlap between the two companies. Safe Harbor? Is it possible that HP is grabbing up Compaq to avoid getting purchased by another, yet-unamed, company? I supose its possible, however i don't know who is left to purchase them. IBM, Dell SUN are the only remaining competitors. IBM has never been in on the 'large buyout' program. SUN is hurting really bad right now, and can't afford to buy anything. Dell is a possibility though. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: HP to buy Compaq?!?
Selling hardware is high maintenance and low margins. It's hard to make a living that way. Brand name boxes have a reputation of being harder to upgrade or add components to and they are more expensive. White boxes are less expensive and easier to upgrade. Go figure! Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager, Digital Media Lynch Technologies Inc. 416-744-7191 1-888-622-3729 416-744-0406 FAX www.lynchdigital.com -Original Message- From: Net Llama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HP to buy Compaq?!? --- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 09:13, Net Llama wrote: --- DOUGLAS HUNLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you've all no doubt heard by now, HP is gobbling up Compaq for $25billion (US) making them #2 in the market... What does this bode for Dell? What will this mean for future Linux support? HP is fairly Linux-friendly...in my experience at least. Thoughts? I'm not so sure how good it is. Neither of them were doing too well financially recently. Both laid off several thousand. Compaq announced that they were getting out of the workstation business. HP has been getting slaughtered in the workstation business. Since neither had a clue how to make it on their own, i dont' see how that will change together. FWIW, yes they are both supporters of Linux. Both had huge booths at Linuxworld, and both have fairly large internal sourceforge deployments. I expect massive layoffs from both, since there is quite a bit of overlap between the two companies. Safe Harbor? Is it possible that HP is grabbing up Compaq to avoid getting purchased by another, yet-unamed, company? I supose its possible, however i don't know who is left to purchase them. IBM, Dell SUN are the only remaining competitors. IBM has never been in on the 'large buyout' program. SUN is hurting really bad right now, and can't afford to buy anything. Dell is a possibility though. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:19:46PM -0400, Wil McGilvery wrote: Selling hardware is high maintenance and low margins. It's hard to make a living that way. Brand name boxes have a reputation of being harder to upgrade or add components to and they are more expensive. White boxes are less expensive and easier to upgrade. I've always found Compaq and HP to be a PITA to work with because lots of things are proprietary, require special drivers, and even use non-standard mounting hardware. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Lord, the money we do spend on Government and it's not one bit better than the government we got for one third the money twenty years ago.'' Will Rogers ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
As you've all no doubt heard by now, HP is gobbling up Compaq for $25billion (US) making them #2 in the market... What does this bode for Dell? What will this mean for future Linux support? HP is fairly Linux-friendly...in my experience at least. Thoughts? Ok guys, I am a Compaq (aka Digital) employee and have been affected both by the Compaq-Intel deal and the newly announced HP deal. It is a merger of companies (but swallowed up is a good term too). It is not clear at this point what Unix will survive. As far as Linux is concerned, Compaq has been Linux friendly too since it had a Redhat and Suse distro for its alpha platform. And Intel is also going for linux too (believe it or not - I can say no more at this time). It was clearly a shock for us folks at the Spitbrook Road facility in Nashua, NH. But when you think about it, in light of the Intel agreement, not all that suprising. Being a general purpose developer sort myself, I am lucky in that I don't have to stick with an OS and can move as I desire. So I am going to stick it out and will probably end up working for Intel next year. But one can never tell, so quickly can things change! :-) = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
Well, I heard on the way home that the deal is a long way from done. It has to go through regulatory approvals in both the US and Europe. The speculation was that these wouldn't be a walk over. HP was forecasting about 14,000 would be laid off but not for two years (time needed to sort things out???). Gerry -- The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne Geoffrey Chaucer ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
