Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-07 Thread Rick Sivernell

ennis

  I agree with you, but I think, & my opinion only, that a break up of M$ 
would do more harm to Unix/Linux. That Apps-DEV sw being free from the OS, 
would allow for the migration of apps to Unix/Linux OS's. Yes Linux would 
boom as Winders people came over to use M$ apps that would work & run the 
same as Winders. The problem would be the quality of the sw would ruin 
Linux/Unix. The winders OS would evently die just like OS2.

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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-07 Thread dep

On Friday 07 September 2001 10:46, Rick Sivernell wrote:

| This is not Bush's doing, this was started in Clinton's time and we
| all know that he screwed everything up includeing himself.

you're right, of course, though i think that the most important thing 
to remember is that clinton's justice department had msft over the 
barrel in 1994, when it could have prevented much of what has taken 
place, but then inexplicably backed off.

i have a little piece today on linuxtoday in which i offer the 
appraisal that this route is far better for linux than the breakup 
would have been -- a breakup would have maintained an operating 
system monopoly while (perhaps) making life a little easier for 
non-microsoft developers of applications software, that's all.

i wrote my piece last night and was amused this morning to see that 
in its analysis piece the washington post came to much the same 
conclusion, though of course their piece was not written with linux 
in mind.
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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-07 Thread Rick Sivernell

On Friday 07 September 2001 08:34 am, you wrote:
> dep wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 September 2001 15:53, Zoki (News) wrote:
> > | Today Net Llama was heard saying:
> > |
> > | 
> > |
> > | ->Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got
> > | thrown ->away.
> > |
> > |
> > | *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves
> > | but also of the American public and the rest of the World
> > | population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in
> > | the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even
> >
> >If you want see a real hosing of the taxpayers wait until the government
> > shifts to XP and
>
> replaces all of its computers that are over two years old to accommodate
> it. Not to mention the lease payments. Bush with another busted budget to
> blame on the dumocrats.
>
This is not Bush's doing, this was started in Clinton's time and we all know 
that he screwed everything up includeing himself.
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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-07 Thread Lee

dep wrote:

> On Thursday 06 September 2001 15:53, Zoki (News) wrote:
> | Today Net Llama was heard saying:
> |
> | 
> |
> | ->Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got
> | thrown ->away.
> |
> |
> | *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves
> | but also of the American public and the rest of the World
> | population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in
> | the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even

>If you want see a real hosing of the taxpayers wait until the government shifts to XP 
>and
replaces all of its computers that are over two years old to accommodate it. Not to 
mention the
lease payments. Bush with another busted budget to blame on the dumocrats.

>
> | more.
>

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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-06 Thread Joel Hammer

This is bigger than our inclinations.
The NY TIMES had a glowing review of windows XP. GLOWING.
The important message is that to run it any computer two years old will be
too slow (memory hog, cpu needful). So, the PC industry is hoping that
windows XP will be the "must have" app that will ignite sales again.
Certainly, a bunch of people like us using a low overhead OS like linux will
never do anything to ignite PC sales. To delay windows XP because of some
lapses in good conduct by certain MS$ executives might cost many people
their jobs and hurt the reelection chances of some politicians.
Joel

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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-06 Thread dep

On Thursday 06 September 2001 15:53, Zoki (News) wrote:
| Today Net Llama was heard saying:
|
| 
|
| ->Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got
| thrown ->away.
|
|
| *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves
| but also of the American public and the rest of the World
| population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in
| the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even
| more.

all of the above is sheer nonsense. breaking up msft would have 
accomplished nothing except creation of an opsys monopoly and an apps 
monopoly, and unbundling ie wouldn't have accomplished anything, 
either. read the full release. they've subpoenaed everything that 
msft has been up to since the original ruling and will go for a 
remedy that might actually do some good, rather than seem draconian 
while actually accomplishing nothing.
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Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-06 Thread Zoki (News)

Today Net Llama was heard saying:



->Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got thrown
->away.


*** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves but
also of the American public and the rest of the World population. Further
more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in the back to go on with
what they were doing and certainly even more.

Pitiful.

Zoran.

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M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?

2001-09-06 Thread Net Llama

In case anyone hasn't yet seen:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010906/ts/microsoft_justice_dc_1.html

Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got thrown
away.

--- burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 September 2001 23:01, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> 
> >
> >   I read some of this and this must be someones idea of a joke.
> M$ludge is
> > not that arrougant or just stupid are they
> 
> Err... yes and yes. 
> 
> It's hard and requires a talent for high farce, but try to put
> yourself in 
> the Redmond mindset - think like Fuzzy Allchin or Thickasa Bollard:
> 
> - It is Microsoft's Constitutional right and God-given destiny to
> dominate 
> the computer industry... it's the American Way.
> 
> - After all, Bill Gates really invented the PC and the whole industry,
> after 
> IBM, Steve Jobs and Texas Instruments screwed it up... so it's "our"
> football 
> and "our" sandbox.
> 
> - Why would any one want to use anything else, when it's obviously 
> inferior... after all, it isn't Microsoft.
> 
> - If you have coded anything to run on a PC, then obviously you are
> either 
> stealing our code, or trespassing on our turf.
> 
> - These Linux fanatics are unAmerican, tofu-eating,
> birkenstock-wearing 
> socialist commies who haven't grown up yet. They don't know what the
> real 
> world is - it's Microsoft.
> 
> - Businesses that have adopted Linux have been misled by Linux
> Lies(tm) and 
> disinformation spread by a few pony-tailed fuzzy-thinking jobless
> parasites. 
> It's not their fault. It is our mission to educate them so they can
> rejoin 
> the real world and pay licence fees like evgeryone else... after all,
> it's 
> for their own good.
> 
> Along a similar vein, Microsoft took out a double page ad in last
> month's 
> Linux magazine - a first ever. When asked by LM why they were doing
> this, 
> Redmond reportedly replied that it finally occured to them that hadn't
> done a 
> good job of explaining to folks that Microsoft really was the best
> software 
> around. As a result, a few businesses such as ISPs had strayed to the
> dark 
> side. Their aim was to set the record straight so these folks could
> return to 
> the fold, thus putting the galaxy back in balance.
> 
> -- 
> burns
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> 
> -- 
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