Re: tar troubles

2001-09-07 Thread Net Llama


--- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:05 pm, Net Llama dropped these
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  --- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Hi Lonni
 
   tar cvf mail.tar mail
 
  Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory?  If its a standard UNIX mail
  file, then its, well, a file.  tar is for creating archives of
  multiple files.  tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file. 
 Have
  you tried just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text
  editor, or even less (or more) ?
 
 Mail was a directory for kmail.  It had the drafts, inbox, outbox, 
 trash, and my custom folders under it.  
 
 Viewing it with less and vi filled the screen with @'s and ^'s.  Same 
 with xedit too.

Oh, well.  I was hoping.  When you created the archive, did you see it
add all the files?  Is it possible that you used a much newer version of
tar to create the archive than you're using to extract it?


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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-07 Thread Tom Wilson

On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:58 pm, Kurt Wall dropped these nuggets 
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 Tom Wilson wrote:
  I asked:
   What is the output of:
  
   $ file mail.tar
 
  mail.tar: ASCII text, with no line terminators

 It's not a tar file, then. Here's the output for a tarball:

 $ file test.tar
 test.tar: GNU tar archive

  Thanks.  I appreciate the help.

 Try

 $ vi -b mail.tar

 and see what you can see.

 Kurt

The vi -b mail.tar produced the same results as with plain vi.  @'s and 
^'s.  

I beginning to think that last time I did this I bonered it some how.  
sigh

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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-06 Thread Tom Wilson

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:40 pm, Myles Green dropped these 
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Hi Myles,

Sorry it took awhile to get back.  No problem with the questions.  
Answers dispersed throughout.


 A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was
 the command you used? 

tar cvf mail.tar mail

Did you check the file size of the .tar file
 against the original folder (IIRC, they should be very close to the
 same)? 

No I didn't.  But I did test it by untarring it after I had it tar up 
but before I copied it to zip disk.  It untared fine then.

Did you try unpacking the .tar.bz2 file with 'tar xyvf
 file.tar.bz2'? 

Got a y --invalid option

Can you see what's in the .tar file using some
 utility like KDE's Archiver or maybe midnight commander? 

KArchiver errors out with  I can't fork a decompressor.  I don't have 
midnight commander installed.

And lastly,
 have you done this successfully in the past?

I've successfully tarred them to backup but I've never had to try to 
restore them until now.  So I guess I haven't.  


 Sorry for all the questions but those are what came to mind.

No problem.  Thanks for the help.


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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-06 Thread Net Llama


--- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:40 pm, Myles Green dropped these 
 nuggets of information:
 
 Hi Myles,
 
 Sorry it took awhile to get back.  No problem with the questions.  
 Answers dispersed throughout.
 
 
  A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was
  the command you used? 
 
 tar cvf mail.tar mail

Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory?  If its a standard UNIX mail
file, then its, well, a file.  tar is for creating archives of multiple
files.  tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file.  Have you tried
just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text editor, or even
less (or more) ?

 Can you see what's in the .tar file using some
  utility like KDE's Archiver or maybe midnight commander? 
 
 KArchiver errors out with  I can't fork a decompressor.  I don't
 have 
 midnight commander installed.

Try something like xedit.  I strongly suspect that mail.tar = mail .
 



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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-06 Thread Tom Wilson

On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:05 pm, Net Llama dropped these nuggets 
of information:
 --- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snips]

Hi Lonni

  tar cvf mail.tar mail

 Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory?  If its a standard UNIX mail
 file, then its, well, a file.  tar is for creating archives of
 multiple files.  tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file.  Have
 you tried just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text
 editor, or even less (or more) ?

Mail was a directory for kmail.  It had the drafts, inbox, outbox, 
trash, and my custom folders under it.  

Viewing it with less and vi filled the screen with @'s and ^'s.  Same 
with xedit too.

[snips]
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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Tom Wilson wrote:
 I asked:
  What is the output of:
 
  $ file mail.tar
 
 mail.tar: ASCII text, with no line terminators 

It's not a tar file, then. Here's the output for a tarball:

$ file test.tar
test.tar: GNU tar archive

 Thanks.  I appreciate the help.

Try 

$ vi -b mail.tar 

and see what you can see.

Kurt
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Re: tar troubles

2001-09-05 Thread Myles Green

Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I moved from eDesktop 2.4 to Redhat 7.1 and when backing up and saving

 personal stuff, I tarred up my mail directory and bzip2 it up on to a 
 zip disk.
 
 Now when trying to retrieve my mail directory, it bunzip2's ok but it 
 won't untar.  
 
 tar xvf mail.tar puts me right back to a prompt with it still listed
as 
 mail.tar.  No error messages no nothing. Just the mail.tar file
staring 
 mockingly at me.  
 
 Nothing I try with the tar command works.  It just always goes back to

 the prompt.  Any ideas of how I can untar this?  I hate to lose all 
 those e-mail tips I've received over the years.

A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was the
command you used? Did you check the file size of the .tar file against
the original folder (IIRC, they should be very close to the same)? Did
you try unpacking the .tar.bz2 file with 'tar xyvf file.tar.bz2'?
Can you see what's in the .tar file using some utility like KDE's
Archiver or maybe midnight commander? And lastly, have you done this
successfully in the past? 

Sorry for all the questions but those are what came to mind.

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