Re: ping - ignore
David A. Bandel babbled on about: there's a big difference between having sendmail installed and having it running (accepting on port 25). Programs can invoke sendmail without sendmail running. What I'm talking about (and most of the configurations entail) is having it listening on a socket 24x7. yes. in your sendmail startup script, there should be somewhere options passed to sendmail. they typically look like '-bd -q30m' . I usually change mine to be '-q5m' . Notice that I remove the '-bd'. This prevents sendmail from starting up in daemon mode. It comes up in 'flush queue' mode only and sends any mail that it needs to every 5 minutes. works for me -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:48:26 -0700 Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:36:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate sendmail. me too ;) Nobody in this group can ignore! Sendmail is a principal reason why linux will never appeal to the masses. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
no. to be exact, it's the CLI - command-line interface. these days, everyone wants to be lazy and easy. Keyboard is very intimidating for most people. anyway, I planned to conquer the sendmail daemon without using m4... :) Nobody in this group can ignore! Sendmail is a principal reason why linux will never appeal to the masses. -- The pivotal point is the second chance, judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
Myles Green wrote: % On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:36:42 -0500 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % I hate sendmail. % % me too ;) To be more precise, I hate sendmail.cf. Kurt -- Westheimer's Discovery: A couple of months in the laboratory can frequently save a couple of hours in the library. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:05:50 -0700 Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David A. Bandel wrote: Nobody in this group can ignore! Sendmail is a principal reason why linux will never appeal to the masses. This is a good example of a daemon 99.9% of Linux users should never use. My two MX boxes run sendmail. No other system does (and shouldn't). If you don't have an MX address pointing to the box, it shouldn't be running a mail server. I agree, and I try to set my systems up that way (well, exim slipped through on one debian system). And you mean any mail server, not just sendmail. correct. In that case though, what do you do with programs like cron or other servers that want to notify someone by mail (even if someone is local to the box)? I expect there's a way to do it, but I've never seen a discussion that didn't involve an MTA. there's a big difference between having sendmail installed and having it running (accepting on port 25). Programs can invoke sendmail without sendmail running. What I'm talking about (and most of the configurations entail) is having it listening on a socket 24x7. There are also Perl programs like send-email (? -- need to check on Freshmeat) that are much lighter and will do the job admirably. You just point them at your e-mail server (the one authorized to send e-mail to the world that you can relay through -- no, not the thousands of Korean open relays, your official, legal mail server). Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:36:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate sendmail. me too ;) -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
