Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-18 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 05:00:12AM +0100, Damjan wrote:
  I'm using UTF-8 as my default encoding and I have not encountered any
  serious problems so far (midnight commander is a counter-example)
 well (its complaining season again), 
 - slrn doesn't work in UTF-8 terminals, and it seems it not gonna work in
   the near future 

I'm using tin :)

 - mutt will work but you have to compile it against ncursesw
   (that means getting the ncurses 5.3 source and recompiling also)

mutt from Debian doesn't have any problems at all!

 - aren't there some patches for mc?

Maybe, but I'm not aware of one. I'll just wait for 4.7.0, which is
supposed to be utf-8 clean :)

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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-18 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 09:41:48AM +0100, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:
  - mutt will work but you have to compile it against ncursesw
(that means getting the ncurses 5.3 source and recompiling also)
 
 mutt from Debian doesn't have any problems at all!

Debian has a mutt-utf8 package that's compiled against ncursesw.

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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-18 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 03:57:30AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote:
  mutt from Debian doesn't have any problems at all!
 Debian has a mutt-utf8 package that's compiled against ncursesw.

Not quite - it's some kind of additional packages - maybe it includes just
the updated binary, I don't really know or care - it works!

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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-17 Thread Jungshik Shin



On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Jungshik Shin wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote:

  On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:01:56PM +0100, Helge Hielscher wrote:
 
   1) I have some mp3-Files with ID3-Tag, most of these files use the
   ISO-8859-1 encoding, but some use a russian encoding. Which programms
   can display the russian ID3-Tags? I have tried XMMS, but with no
   success.

   If you have a mix of mp3 files with id3v1 tag in ISO-8859-1
 and other mp3 files with id3v1 tag in KOI8-R, the only way to display
 both kinds of tags correctly *simultaneously*(in a single xmms
 session) is to convert both tags to UTF-8 and run xmms under UTF-8 locale.

  One problem with this  is that most portable mp3 players in the
market can't handle UTF-8 although they support a dozen or more
languages. Consequently, you may have to reconvert id3v1 tags
in your mp3 files if you need to store them in portable
mp3 players. They shpport multiple languages by assuming that
there's a one-to-one correspondence between languages and
encodings. This is plainly wrong, but there's not much they
can do given that id3v1 tag does not have any means of indicating
which encoding is used and for the vast majority of mp3 files
circulated and made on the net the aforementioned one-to-one mapping
is valid.

 BTW, id3v2 tags don't have this problem.

  We can just hope that id3v2 will be widely used soon and
a new generations of mp3 portable players will support it.

  BTW, a number of PDAs, mobile phones and other devices
might share the problem arising from the misguided assumption that
languages/scripts and encodings are tightly bound to each other(the
same is true of stupid web mail services like Hotmail, Yahoo mail,
etc). Hopefully, more wide use of Linux in those devices and better
UTF-8 support in Linux will change the situation.


  Jungshik

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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-17 Thread Damjan
  packers/archivers (tar,ace,rar)? Are there any known problems?
 
 I'm using UTF-8 as my default encoding and I have not encountered any
 serious problems so far (midnight commander is a counter-example)

well (its complaining season again), 

- slrn doesn't work in UTF-8 terminals, and it seems it not gonna work in
  the near future 

- mutt will work but you have to compile it against ncursesw
  (that means getting the ncurses 5.3 source and recompiling also)

- aren't there some patches for mc?




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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-15 Thread Mike FABIAN
Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] さんは書きました:

 2) Now that I have set my locales to de_DE.uft8

use de_DE.UTF-8, *not* de_DE.utf8, otherwise XSupportsLocale() will
return False on most systems and you will get problems with X11 programs.

 I could use a tool that converts filenames (mostly 8859-1, some
 russian) to unicode? Where can I find/get such a tool?

I use a tiny script using iconv to convert file names. It's attached. 



mviconv
Description: Binary data

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mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-14 Thread Helge Hielscher
Hello,

a few questions:

1) I have some mp3-Files with ID3-Tag, most of these files use the 
ISO-8859-1 encoding, but some use a russian encoding. Which programms 
can display the russian ID3-Tags? I have tried XMMS, but with no 
success. Is there a way to convert all ID3-Tags to Unicode? How does 
ogg-Vorbis handle this issue?

2) Now that I have set my locales to de_DE.uft8 I could use a tool that 
converts filenames (mostly 8859-1, some russian) to unicode? Where can I 
find/get such a tool?

3) Do .zip Files store the encoding of the filenames somewhere and will 
unzip convert the encodings to utf8? How about uft8 and the other 
packers/archivers (tar,ace,rar)? Are there any known problems?

Regards and TIA,
Helge

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Re: mp3-tags, zip-archives, tool to convert filenames to UTF

2003-02-14 Thread Vasilis Vasaitis
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:01:56PM +0100, Helge Hielscher wrote:

 success. Is there a way to convert all ID3-Tags to Unicode? How does 
 ogg-Vorbis handle this issue?

  Ogg Vorbis comment values are encoded in UTF-8 by default, see:

http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html

 3) Do .zip Files store the encoding of the filenames somewhere and will 
 unzip convert the encodings to utf8? How about uft8 and the other 
 packers/archivers (tar,ace,rar)? Are there any known problems?

  I would expect these to behave pretty much like filesystems
themselves do.

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