RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html
So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create an account the way the page says to do so? It's guaranteed to be an FAQ which will bother everyone more than the time it would take to fix it on the page. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: Ronald G. Minnich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:13 PM To: Alan Mimms Cc: Andreas Thienemann; linuxbios@clustermatic.org Subject: RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote: One problem tho: no form for creating usernames. Was this intentional? yes. Creating users who can edit the pages is going to pass through sysops so we don't have people randomly dropping in and trashing the pages. Plan 9 wiki had a terrible time with this until they locked things down. Every once in a while all the Plan 9 wiki would end up with links to porn sites. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html
I think it would be MOST helpful if the linuxbios web site reflected true and accurate recent information. It appears to be very out of date and doesn't even say how to get to freebios2 IIRC. If I knew more of what WAS true and correct, I would offer to help update the site. But alas, I am just lurking on this mailing list and absorbing what I can... Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bari Ari Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:40 AM To: linuxbios@clustermatic.org Subject: Re: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html Importance: Low Also on Slashdot earlier today: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/02/28/1126226.shtml Stallman Calls For Action on Free BIOS Ronald G. Minnich wrote: if you see errors let me know (I did not write this but they will take input). I know the comment about linuxbios being stripped-down linux is not quite right; anything else? Nevertheless it is really great to see the FSF weigh in on this issue. If your company is a supporter of linuxbios, or other free bioses such as U-boot etc., then you should definitely contact the FSF and get your name listed. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html
Woo. Very nice. Thanks to all - maybe we can create some nice content for this cool new container! I will do what I can when I have some content to share. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald G. Minnich Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:13 PM To: Andreas Thienemann Cc: linuxbios@clustermatic.org Subject: RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html Importance: Low On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Andreas Thienemann wrote: [new website] volunteers? Well, I would volunteer to a) create the new webpage and b) set it up with some kind of CMS so that someone else can fill it with content. OK, guys, we've got a new web site for linuxbios, courtesy Stefan. Check it out: wiki.linuxbios.org Only problem: I have been trying to get linuxbios running on one of our epia boards and failed horribly. that's because somebody appears to have busted linuxbios/epia recently :-( ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html
One problem tho: no form for creating usernames. Was this intentional? Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Mimms Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:28 PM To: Ronald G. Minnich; Andreas Thienemann Cc: linuxbios@clustermatic.org Subject: RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html Importance: Low Woo. Very nice. Thanks to all - maybe we can create some nice content for this cool new container! I will do what I can when I have some content to share. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald G. Minnich Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:13 PM To: Andreas Thienemann Cc: linuxbios@clustermatic.org Subject: RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html Importance: Low On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Andreas Thienemann wrote: [new website] volunteers? Well, I would volunteer to a) create the new webpage and b) set it up with some kind of CMS so that someone else can fill it with content. OK, guys, we've got a new web site for linuxbios, courtesy Stefan. Check it out: wiki.linuxbios.org Only problem: I have been trying to get linuxbios running on one of our epia boards and failed horribly. that's because somebody appears to have busted linuxbios/epia recently :-( ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: Off topic CF questions
We have information from a Compact Flash manufacturer that says you should have hardware to solve this problem - I do not believe there is a software solution. The problem is caused by the fact (as you state) that CF stores metadata in the flash blocks along with the disk block data. If the metadata is corrupted by an aborted write, it can affect all of the disk blocks stored in the flash block, and the metadata can even be so corrupt that you lose unrelated blocks. Our most common scenario for failure is to lose disk block #0, which, of course, is the boot block for our OS. We solve this using hardware. You need to use buffers to disconnect the CF's ATA reset, output-enable and write-enable signals from their source on the bus, and hold up DC power to the pull-ups, the buffers and the CF itself for at least 10ms-20ms after detecting the imminent loss of power. This is being implemented in our new hardware designs, and we have not yet gotten one back from fabrication to test. But it sure looks like it will work to solve the problem. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:47 PM To: LinuxBIOS Subject: Off topic CF questions This is a bit off topic, but I need some pointers and we seem to have quite a few really smart people on this list. ;-) I'm trying to learn about the issues and solutions to using CF cards for data logging in appliances where the power may be pulled at any time. There are sort of two classes of logging. One would be classic write only logging. The other would be things like total run time, an odometer, that sort of thing where you might want to something that amounts to erase the old value and over write it with a new one. Obviously the second case would degenerate a bit with at least double buffering and could get as bad as a write only log history. I say write only, meaning that the download/reset/erase procedure could be under controlled conditions and not a concern. My issue is that CF cards present and IDE abstraction that hides the underlying block sizes and the fact that FLASH is erased as a block (and unknown block) and rewritten from scratch. I have absolutely no idea what size these blocks are such that I might separate my read-only partitions from my write only partitions with a buffer partition. I also have absolutely no idea what happens to these things when the power is pulled, esp. in the middle of an erase/write cycle or how these erase/write cycles might be optimised. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ty -- Tyson D Sawyer iRobot Corporation Senior Systems EngineerMilitary Systems Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robots for the Real World 603-654-3400 ext 206 http://www.irobot.com ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: AMD64: Something's missing?
One thing that encryption in the bootstrap CAN do is prevent Trojan attacks against the kernel image. If attackers can't find out what the encryption key is they can't create a substitute Trojan kernel. It plugs a hole. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: SONE Takeshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:18 AM To: Evan Langlois Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64: Something's missing? On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:26:01PM +0200, Evan Langlois wrote: EtherBoot can boot lots of things from the network or an IDE hard disk. FILO can boot from IDE hard disk, IDE CDROM, floppy, and maybe more? 9load I don't know much about except that it is used to load the plan9 kernel. I don't know much about FILO. Can anyone comment on its compatibility with the LILO graphical features (displaying graphical menus/splash screens), and is there any support available for encrypted filesystems? FILO is not aimed at being compatible with LILO. Assuming FILO works like LILO, and doesn't know about filesystems, I'm assuming encryption would be difficult, and it might therefore be best to chain-load another boot-loader, but I'd want the encryption keys to be in the ROM to make it as difficult as possible to get to them. FILO has filesystem routines borrowed from GRUB, so it works like GRUB rather than LILO. Encryption in the BIOS itself may be a positive feature, not just for corporate users that want to protect their IP, but laptop users and such (in which case the key would be asked for on boot) that don't want sensitive information leaking out just because a laptop was stolen. Encryption in boot process doesn't make sense to me. What you want to protect is the data in the storage, not the boot image (kernel). Encryption of the storage is OS's bussiness, and the OS will ask you the password before decrypting any data. -- Takeshi ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
RE: config tool + tree enumeration
Hello Lu, Is there anything in CVS yet for K8 CPU support? I didn't see anything a week or so ago. The AMD folks say it's there and production level. ? Thanks. Alan Mimms, Senior Architect F5 Networks, Inc. Spokane Development Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: YhLu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:06 AM To: ron minnich Cc: Stefan Reinauer; Eric W. Biederman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: config tool + tree enumeration Ron, In s2880, If I don't change the 0 to 1. I will get two copy of bus1 devices in the Linux. In S2885, it is OK, if I don't change it. In Arima, You still can not see bus1 device now? Regards Yinghai Lu -- : ron minnich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 2003929 10:00 : YhLu : Stefan Reinauer; Eric W. Biederman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Re: config tool + tree enumeration On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, YhLu wrote: Stefan, It's bus 1, that LinuxBIOS and OpenBIOS find really well, only Linux refuses to see it. Do you update the irq_table.c's interrupt router bus no. from to 0 to 1? that's not the problem. The problem is that linux does not see bus 1 at all. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios