Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Bari Ari wrote:

 ron minnich wrote:
 
 The two unknowable issues with IBM:
 - enable SPD
 - enable FLASH write
 
 they refuse to tell us.
 Was that with the T23? The T23 has a 830MP chipset and S3 graphics. What 
 did they use for the keyboard controller/super I/O?

that is with all IBMs.

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread Bari Ari
ron minnich wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Bari Ari wrote:

 

ron minnich wrote:

   

The two unknowable issues with IBM:
- enable SPD
- enable FLASH write
they refuse to tell us.
 

Was that with the T23? The T23 has a 830MP chipset and S3 graphics. What 
did they use for the keyboard controller/super I/O?
   

that is with all IBMs.

 

The few IBM's I've looked at mux all the SMBus and I2C lines that are 
used for SPD, smart battery, keyboard controller and DDC for CRT, etc, 
etc. The Flash ROM's and FWH write enables tend to be controlled through 
GPIO's on the Super I/O or keyboard/system management controller.

Bari

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Bari Ari wrote:

 The few IBM's I've looked at mux all the SMBus and I2C lines that are 
 used for SPD, smart battery, keyboard controller and DDC for CRT, etc, 
 etc. The Flash ROM's and FWH write enables tend to be controlled through 
 GPIO's on the Super I/O or keyboard/system management controller.

yes, and we can't find those enables.

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread Bari Ari
ron minnich wrote:

The two unknowable issues with IBM:
- enable SPD
- enable FLASH write
they refuse to tell us.

 

Was that with the T23? The T23 has a 830MP chipset and S3 graphics. What 
did they use for the keyboard controller/super I/O?

Bari

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Stefan Reinauer wrote:
There is not much you can do except gnireenigne
esrever existing firmware 
  Stefan

That's it, gnireenigne esrever, perfectly legal in the US (Sony v 
Connectix) as long as the code is not encrypted for copy protection or 
content access protection (DMCA).  Even then it is okay for developing 
interoperable software, but Judge Kaplan in the DeCSS case wrote that 
the law did not permit you to disseminate the information you gained 
from gnireenigne esrever (in the case of encryption).

-Steve



___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


RE: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, David Barr wrote:

 Ron, is the T23 running linuxbios?  When I joined the list (though I 
 
 later left) and was reading back-issues, I vaguely remember you as 
 
 having said you  couldn't get it on your lappy due to IBM's chipset 
 
 detail stinginess; has any/all of that changed, or am I perhaps 
 
 hallucinating?

it's on the list, but IBM has never helped much. 

We'd rather work with something like the lindows system, as we think they 
might actually help.

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread Roger
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 19:07, ron minnich wrote:
 On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Bari Ari wrote:
 
  The IBM A22-M uses the Intel 440BX chipset with the ATI Mobility Rage M3 
  for graphics. The 440BX is supported by LinuxBIOS and the VideoBIOS can 
  be extracted from the flash in the unit. Find out what they use for a 
  keyboard controller/superI/O and it may be workable. It may be one of 
  the Renasas (Hitachi) IKAP family.
 
 The two unknowable issues with IBM:
 - enable SPD
 - enable FLASH write

I thought the openbios/devbios code that i posted and made reference to
had the corresponding addresses for enabling flash write for the i440bx
chipset? (or is this another issue?  ...i thought it was really an mtd
issue.)

 
 they refuse to tell us.
 
 ron
 
 ___
 Linuxbios mailing list
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
-- 

Roger
http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Stefan Reinauer wrote:

 devbios generally knows how to do this for certain chipsets, including
 the 440. Unfortunately some mainboard vendors additionaly protect flash
 write with some undocumented GPIO circuit, so supporting the chipset
 alone is not enough. There is not much you can do except gnireenigne 
 esrever existing firmware or trying out all possible GPIO lines (and
 combine them etc) The first is probably illegal in some countries, the
 second might destroy your hardware, esp. on laptops.

I did in fact try all GPIO combinations on the T23 GPIO lines, as well as
on the T22.  Interestingly enough, some of them will reset the laptop. But
I never found the combination, after much work, that would open up SPD or 
enable FLASH write. Some of these designers put an extra flipflop in such 
that the control bits are sticky -- you can turn the SPD off, for 
example, but not back on.

We found out how to do this type of thing on the L440GX, and the hardware 
was not simple.

ron



___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030811 10:02]:
  The two unknowable issues with IBM:
  - enable SPD
  - enable FLASH write
 
 I thought the openbios/devbios code that i posted and made reference to
 had the corresponding addresses for enabling flash write for the i440bx
 chipset? (or is this another issue?  ...i thought it was really an mtd
 issue.)
  
devbios generally knows how to do this for certain chipsets, including
the 440. Unfortunately some mainboard vendors additionaly protect flash
write with some undocumented GPIO circuit, so supporting the chipset
alone is not enough. There is not much you can do except gnireenigne 
esrever existing firmware or trying out all possible GPIO lines (and
combine them etc) The first is probably illegal in some countries, the
second might destroy your hardware, esp. on laptops.

  Stefan

-- 
Architecture Team
SuSE Linux AG
___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread YhLu
Why not try 64 bit?

Yinghai Lu

--
: ron minnich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: 200385 16:20
: YhLu
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, YhLu wrote:

 You need to change _RAMBASE to 0x4000.

thank you, that did it. I now have an HDAMA running as a 2-cpu bproc slave 
node, in 32-bit mode, with an IBM T23 laptop as the master.

ron
___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-14 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, YhLu wrote:

 You need to change _RAMBASE to 0x4000.

thank you, that did it. I now have an HDAMA running as a 2-cpu bproc slave 
node, in 32-bit mode, with an IBM T23 laptop as the master.

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


RE: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-11 Thread David Barr
Ron, is the T23 running linuxbios?  When I joined the list (though I 

later left) and was reading back-issues, I vaguely remember you as 

having said you  couldn't get it on your lappy due to IBM's chipset 

detail stinginess; has any/all of that changed, or am I perhaps 

hallucinating?

 

I have access to a fairly largish supply of A22-M series, and as 

president of my local student ACM chapter (named Beta Iota Tau, 

nerdily enough) am desparately searching for more projects for the 

upcoming  semester/year.

 

Short Summary:  Does linuxBios work on your T23?  If so, can I have 

all the juicy (or at least some moderately damp) details?

 

TIA,

-David H. Barr.

 

thank you, that did it. I now have an HDAMA running as a 2-cpu bproc

 slave

node, in 32-bit mode, with an IBM T23 laptop as the master.

 

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-10 Thread Adam Agnew



 David Barr wrote:

  I have access to a fairly largish supply of A22-M series, and as
 
 president of my local student ACM chapter (named Beta Iota Tau,
 
 nerdily enough) am desparately searching for more projects for the
 
 upcoming  semester/year.
 
 

Also take a look at the flash. If it's soldered on, you'll need to have a
socket put on before you should dare trying to flash it. Use one laptop to
get a working image, then you can flash the rest with their flash still
soldered on. Also, put a layer of foam under the keyboard for when you lay
it down in its socket in order to be able to turn the laptop on. The
underside of those keyboards is metal and can short out the motherboard. I
never thought to look and learned that lesson the hard way, one dead
T23. Let me know if you need to find a place to have a socket put on for
the flash.

- Adam Agnew

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


Re: smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-07 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, YhLu wrote:

 Why not try 64 bit?

that's next. I am waiting for something. You'll see :-)

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios


smp, newconfig, hdama

2003-08-05 Thread ron minnich

fails. 

ah well it was too good to last. 

LinuxBIOS is saying that CPU #1 did not initialize. 

just FYI, this is doubtless a setup problem.

ron

___
Linuxbios mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios