Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-26 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:40:28 -0500 Milton Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I trimmed the cc list for the implementation discussion).

  Yep, good thing.

snip

  
Whoops, my bad, in the non threaded case, there's no
  mask at all, only an unmask+eoi at the end, maybe that's
  an oversight!
  
 No, not an oversight.  The point is, don't mask/unmask
 between ack/eoi while handling the interrupt.  For many
 irq controllers, the eoi must be done from the same cpu,
 hence the mask and eoi before actually handling the
 interrupt in the general case.   Its a feature of xics
 that we don't have to play that game, but can do the
 cpu and device eoi separately.

  Ok, will try to play with this a bit more.

snip

  
That may be, but I'm only looking at the code (read no
  specifications at hand) and it looks like a black box to
  me.
  
 PowerPC External Interrupt Architecture is defined in
 appendix A of Power.org™ Standard for 
 Power Architecture™ Platform Requirements
 (Workstation, Server), available to Power.org members.
 The developer-level membership in Power.org is free.
 (see www.power.org).

  I already have that one and started to dig into the interrupt stuff, but as
with all normative stuff it's boring to the extreme and not always without
flaws. Looks like I know what I'll be reading this WE.

  
 That said, it likely won't mention the eHEA in enough
 detail to note that the interrupt gets cleared on
 unmask.
  
 On the other hand, I have actually seen the source
 to implementations of the xics logic, so I have a
 very good understanding of it (and know of a few
 implementation features, shall we say).

  Good to know.

  
  
   The path lengh for mask and unmask is always VERY slow
   and single  threaded global lock and single context in
   xics.  It is designed and  tuned to run at driver
   startup and shutdown (and adapter reset and  reinitalize
   during pci error processing), not during normal irq 
   processing.
  
Now, that is quite interesting then. Those mask() and
  unmask() should then be called shutdown() and startup()
  and not at each interrupt or am I misunderstanding you.
  
 Basically, yes.  but linux likes to let drivers mask at
 other times, and that is the facility we have.

  Darn, do those drivers really need that heavywheight masking
at the source or something simpler could be accomplished by
fiddling with the processor priority in mask and unmask?

  
   The XICS hardware implicitly masks the specific source
   as part of  interrupt ack (get_irq), and implicitly
   undoes this mask at eoi.   In  addition, it helps to
   manage the cpu priority by supplying the previous 
  priority as part of the get_irq process and providing for
   the priority  to be restored (lowered only) as part of
   the eoi.  The hardware does  support setting the cpu
  priority independently.
  
This confirms, then, that the mask and unmask methods
  should be empty for the xics.
  
   
   We should only be using this implicit masking for xics,
   and not the  explicit masking for any normal interrupt
   processing.
  
OK
  
I don't know if 
   this means making the mask/unmask setting a bit in
   software,
  
Used by whom? 
  
 The thought here was if we can't change the caller, then
 maybe we could try to figure out what the caller was
 trying to accomplish and defer what was requested based
 on context.   Obviously, we are better off changing the
 caller.

  That will not be so easy as we'll change behaviour for every user of
the genirq layer.

  
  
   and the 
   enable/disable to actually call what we do now on
   mask/unmask, or if it  means we need a new flow type on
  real time.
  
Maybe a new flow type is not necessary considering what
  you said.
  
 Maybe not, but I think it would be preferred ... we do have
 the source to both sides.

  That's straightforward to do in the non threaded case, however, in the
threaded case the xics code would have to also manage the hardirq thread
as we would not be able to reuse the generic one (because of the unmask it
does at the very end).

snip

   I think the flows we want on xics are:
   
   (non-threaded)
   getirq (implicit source specific mask until eoi)
   handle interrupt
   eoi (implicit cpu priority restore)
  
Yep
  
   
   (threaded)
   getirq (implicit source specific mask until eoi)
   explicit cpu priority restore
  ^
How do you go about doing that? Still not clear to me.
  
 xics_set_cpu_priority(0xff)

  OK

  
 of course, there needs to be some kind of 
 struct irq_chip method to call it.

  Yep, excepted that it's currently not provided by irq_chip.

  
   handle interrupt
   eoi (implicit cpu priority restore to same as
   explicit level) 
   Where the cpu priority restore allows receiving other
   interrupts of the  same priority from the hardware.
   
   So I guess the question is can the rt kernel interrupt
   processing take  advantage of xics auto mask,
 

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:15:17 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:35 +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
  Hi Ben,
  
  On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:17:47 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 04:58 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:
The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.
   
   Note also that the XICS code thus assumes, iirc, as does the cell IIC
   code, that eoi is called on the -same- cpu that fetched the interrupt
   initially. That assumption can be broken with IRQ threads no ?
  
No, the fetch and the eoi are both done in interrupt context before
  the hardirq thread is woken up.
  
On the other hand, the mask+eoi and the unmask may well happen
  on different cpus as there's only one hardirq thread per irq on
  the system. Don't know if this is a problem with the XICS though.
 
 Ok, that's the right approach then. It should work. I don't know what
 the specific problems with HEA are at this stage.

  Yep, except as it behaves in way that the current -rt fasteoi flow
cannot handle.

 It doesn't seem to
 make sense to implement a set_irq_type(), what would it do ? The
 XICS doesn't expose any concept of interrupt type...

  That's what I gathered from looking at the sources.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

  

  

   
  
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 09:18 +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
 
  Ok, that's the right approach then. It should work. I don't know
 what
  the specific problems with HEA are at this stage.
 
   Yep, except as it behaves in way that the current -rt fasteoi flow
 cannot handle.

We probably need to make a special xics flow handler for -rt that does
what Milton suggested, ie, bring down the CPU priority right away and
only EOI later or something like that, instead of masking/unmasking.

I don't know what are the other potential issues with the HEA though.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:14:07 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
  There may be some implicit assumption in that we expect the cpu 
  priority to be returned to normal by the EOI, but there is nothing in 
  the hardware that requires the EOI to come from the same cpu as 
  accepted the interrupt for processing, with the exception of the IPI 
  which is per-cpu (and the only interrupt that is per-cpu).
 
 Well, there is one fundamental one: The XIRR register we access is
 per-CPU, so if we are to return the right processor priority, we must
 make sure we write the right XIRR.

  That's already the case as the irq fetch (xx_xirr_info_get()) and
eoi (xx_xirr_info_set()) are both done in interrupt context, therefore on
the same cpu.

 
 Same with Cell, MPIC, actually and a few others. In general I'd say most
 fast_eoi type PICs have this requirement.
 
  It would probably mean adding the concept of the current cpu priority 
  vs interrupts and making sure we write it to hardware at irq_exit() 
  time when deferring the actual irq handlers.
 
 I think we need something like a special -rt variant of the fast_eoi
 handler that masks  eoi's in ack() before the thread is spun off, and
 unmasks instead of eoi() when the irq processing is complete.

  This is what is already done in the threaded case:

- fetch + mask + eoi  in interrupt context

- unmask in the thread when processing is complete.


  Sebastien.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:22:41 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 09:18 +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
  
   Ok, that's the right approach then. It should work. I don't know
  what
   the specific problems with HEA are at this stage.
  
Yep, except as it behaves in way that the current -rt fasteoi flow
  cannot handle.
 
 We probably need to make a special xics flow handler for -rt that does
 what Milton suggested, ie, bring down the CPU priority right away

  Do you mean creating a custom fasteoi handler into xics.c? Also, it's
not clear to me from looking at the code how you go about changing the
cpu priority.

 and
 only EOI later or something like that, instead of masking/unmasking.
 
 I don't know what are the other potential issues with the HEA though.

  Don't know either, but that I can test.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

   Do you mean creating a custom fasteoi handler into xics.c? Also, it's
 not clear to me from looking at the code how you go about changing the
 cpu priority.

Yup. I think the priority is the CPPR.. Milton can give you more
details, if not, I'll pick it up tomorrow when at the office.

Ben.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:36:19 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
Do you mean creating a custom fasteoi handler into xics.c? Also, it's
  not clear to me from looking at the code how you go about changing the
  cpu priority.
 
 Yup. I think the priority is the CPPR.. Milton can give you more
 details, if not, I'll pick it up tomorrow when at the office.
 

  Thanks Ben, will look into this.

  Nite

  Sebastien.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:42:15 -0500 Milton Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
Hi Milton,
  On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Milton Miller 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon Sep 15 at 18:04:06 EST in 2008, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
  When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are
  masked, then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the
  end of hardirq processing.  That's fine as any interrupt comming
  in-between will still be processed since the kernel replays those
  pending interrupts.
 
  Is this to generate some kind of software managed nesting and priority
  of the hardware level interrupts?
 
No, not really. This is only to be sure to not miss interrupts coming
  from the same source that were received during threaded hardirq 
  processing.
  Some instrumentation showed that it never seems to happen in the eHEA
  interrupt case, so I think we can forget this aspect.
 
 I don't trust the interrupt can never happen during hea hardirq, 
 because I think there will be a race between their rearming the next 
 interrupt and the unmask being called.

  So do I, it was just to make sure I was not hit by another interrupt while
handling the previous one and thus reduce the number of hypothesis.

  I sure do not say that it cannot happen, just that that path is not taken
when I have the eHEA hang.

 
 I was trying to understand why the mask and early eoi, but I guess its 
 to handle other more limited interrupt controllers where the interrupts 
 stack in hardware instead of software.
 
Also, the problem only manifests with the eHEA RX interrupt. For 
  example,
  the IBM Power Raid (ipr) SCSI exhibits absolutely no problem under an 
  RT
  kernel. From this I conclude that:
 
IPR - PCI - XICS is OK
eHEA - IBMEBUS - XICS is broken with hardirq preemption.
 
I also checked that forcing the eHEA interrupt to take the non 
  threaded
  path does work.
 
 For a long period of time, XICS dealt only with level interrupts.   
 First Micro Channel, and later PCI buses.  The IPI is made level by 
 software conventions.  Recently, EHCA, EHEA, and MSI interrupts were 
 added which by their nature are edge based.  The logic that converts 
 those interrupts to the XICS layer is responsible for the resend when 
 no cpu can accept them, but not to retrigger after an EOI.

 OK

 
Here is a side by side comparison of the fasteoi flow with and 
  without hardirq
  threading (sorry it's a bit wide)
 (removed)
the non-threaded flow does (in interrupt context):
 
  mask

  Whoops, my bad, in the non threaded case, there's no mask at all, only an
unmask+eoi at the end, maybe that's an oversight!


  handle interrupt
  unmask
  eoi
 
the threaded flow does:
 
  mask
  eoi
  handle interrupt
  unmask
 
If I remove the mask() call, then the eHEA is no longer hanging.
 
 Hmm, I guess I'm confused.  You are saying the irq does not appear if 
 it occurs while it is masked?

  Looks like it is, but I cannot say for sure, the only observable effect
is that I do not get any more interrupts coming from the eHEA.

  Well, in that case, I would guess that 
 the hypervisor is checking if the irq is previously pending while it 
 was masked and resetting it as part of the unmask.   It can't do it on 
 level, but can on the true edge sources.  I would further say the 
 justification for this might be the hardware might make it pending from 
 some previous stale event that might result in the false interrupt on 
 startup were it not to do this clear.
 
  The reason I ask is the xics controller can do unlimited nesting
  of hardware interrupts.  In fact, the hardware has 255 levels of
  priority, of which 16 or so are reserved by the hypervisor, leaving
  over 200 for the os to manage.  Higher numbers are lower in priority,
  and the hardware will only dispatch an interrupt to a given cpu if
  it is currenty at a lower priority.  If it is at a higher priority
  and the interrupt is not bound to a specific cpu it will look for
  another cpu to dispatch it.  The hardware will not re-present an
  irq until the it is EOId (managed by a small state machine per
  interrupt at the source, which also handles no cpu available try
  again later), but software can return its cpu priority to the
  previous level to recieve other interrupt sources at the same level.
  The hardware also supports lazy update of the cpu priority register
  when an interrupt is presented; as long as the cpu is hard-irq
  enabled it can take the irq then write is real priority and let the
  hw decide if the irq is still pending or it must defer or try another
  cpu in the rejection scenerio.  The only restriction is that the
  EOI can not cause an interrupt reject by raising the priority while
  sending the EOI command.
 
  The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
  single-threaded 

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-25 Thread Milton Miller
(I trimmed the cc list for the implementation discussion).
 
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:42:15 -0500 Milton Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
 Hi Milton,
   On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Milton Miller
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon Sep 15 at 18:04:06 EST in 2008, Sebastien
  Dugue wrote:  When entering the low level handler,
  level sensitive interrupts are  masked, then eio'd in
  interrupt context and then unmasked at the  end of
  hardirq processing.  That's fine as any interrupt
  comming  in-between will still be processed since the
  kernel replays those  pending interrupts.
  
   Is this to generate some kind of software managed
  nesting and priority  of the hardware level
  interrupts? 
 No, not really. This is only to be sure to not miss
   interrupts coming from the same source that were
   received during threaded hardirq  processing.
   Some instrumentation showed that it never seems to
   happen in the eHEA interrupt case, so I think we can
   forget this aspect. 
  I don't trust the interrupt can never happen during hea
  hardirq,  because I think there will be a race between
  their rearming the next  interrupt and the unmask being
  called.
 
   So do I, it was just to make sure I was not hit by
 another interrupt while handling the previous one and thus
 reduce the number of hypothesis.
 
   I sure do not say that it cannot happen, just that that
 path is not taken when I have the eHEA hang.
 
  I was trying to understand why the mask and early eoi,
  but I guess its  to handle other more limited interrupt
  controllers where the interrupts  stack in hardware
  instead of software. 
 Also, the problem only manifests with the eHEA RX
   interrupt. For  example,
   the IBM Power Raid (ipr) SCSI exhibits absolutely no
   problem under an  RT
   kernel. From this I conclude that:
  
 IPR - PCI - XICS is OK
 eHEA - IBMEBUS - XICS is broken with hardirq
  preemption. 
 I also checked that forcing the eHEA interrupt to
   take the non  threaded
   path does work.
  
  For a long period of time, XICS dealt only with level
  interrupts.First Micro Channel, and later PCI buses.
   The IPI is made level by  software conventions. 
  Recently, EHCA, EHEA, and MSI interrupts were  added
  which by their nature are edge based.  The logic that
  converts  those interrupts to the XICS layer is
  responsible for the resend when  no cpu can accept them,
  but not to retrigger after an EOI.
 
  OK
 
  
 Here is a side by side comparison of the fasteoi
   flow with and  without hardirq
   threading (sorry it's a bit wide)
  (removed)
 the non-threaded flow does (in interrupt context):
  
   mask
 
   Whoops, my bad, in the non threaded case, there's no
 mask at all, only an unmask+eoi at the end, maybe that's
 an oversight!
 
No, not an oversight.  The point is, don't mask/unmask
between ack/eoi while handling the interrupt.  For many
irq controllers, the eoi must be done from the same cpu,
hence the mask and eoi before actually handling the
interrupt in the general case.   Its a feature of xics
that we don't have to play that game, but can do the
cpu and device eoi separately.
 
   handle interrupt
   unmask
   eoi
  
 the threaded flow does:
  
   mask
   eoi
   handle interrupt
   unmask
  
 If I remove the mask() call, then the eHEA is no
   longer hanging. 
  Hmm, I guess I'm confused.  You are saying the irq does
  not appear if  it occurs while it is masked?
 
   Looks like it is, but I cannot say for sure, the only
 observable effect is that I do not get any more interrupts
 coming from the eHEA.
 
(removed features of xics)
 
 
   That may be, but I'm only looking at the code (read no
 specifications at hand) and it looks like a black box to
 me.
 
PowerPC External Interrupt Architecture is defined in
appendix A of Power.org™ Standard for 
Power Architecture™ Platform Requirements
(Workstation, Server), available to Power.org members.
The developer-level membership in Power.org is free.
(see www.power.org).
 
That said, it likely won't mention the eHEA in enough
detail to note that the interrupt gets cleared on
unmask.
 
On the other hand, I have actually seen the source
to implementations of the xics logic, so I have a
very good understanding of it (and know of a few
implementation features, shall we say).
 
 
  The path lengh for mask and unmask is always VERY slow
  and single  threaded global lock and single context in
  xics.  It is designed and  tuned to run at driver
  startup and shutdown (and adapter reset and  reinitalize
  during pci error processing), not during normal irq 
  processing.
 
   Now, that is quite interesting then. Those mask() and
 unmask() should then be called shutdown() and startup()
 and not at each interrupt or am I misunderstanding you.
 
Basically, yes.  but linux likes to let drivers mask at
other times, and that 

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Milton Miller
Jan-Bernd wrote:
 Ben, can you / your team look into the implementation
 of the set_irq_type functionality needed for XICS?

I'm not volunteering to look at or implement any changes for how xics
works with generic irq, but I'm trying to understand what the rt kernel
is trying to accomplish with this statement:

On Mon Sep 15 at 18:04:06 EST in 2008, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
 When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are
 masked, then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the
 end of hardirq processing.  That's fine as any interrupt comming
 in-between will still be processed since the kernel replays those
 pending interrupts.

Is this to generate some kind of software managed nesting and priority
of the hardware level interrupts?

The reason I ask is the xics controller can do unlimited nesting
of hardware interrupts.  In fact, the hardware has 255 levels of
priority, of which 16 or so are reserved by the hypervisor, leaving
over 200 for the os to manage.  Higher numbers are lower in priority,
and the hardware will only dispatch an interrupt to a given cpu if
it is currenty at a lower priority.  If it is at a higher priority
and the interrupt is not bound to a specific cpu it will look for
another cpu to dispatch it.  The hardware will not re-present an
irq until the it is EOId (managed by a small state machine per
interrupt at the source, which also handles no cpu available try
again later), but software can return its cpu priority to the
previous level to recieve other interrupt sources at the same level.
The hardware also supports lazy update of the cpu priority register
when an interrupt is presented; as long as the cpu is hard-irq
enabled it can take the irq then write is real priority and let the
hw decide if the irq is still pending or it must defer or try another
cpu in the rejection scenerio.  The only restriction is that the
EOI can not cause an interrupt reject by raising the priority while
sending the EOI command.

The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.

We used to lower the priority to allow other interrupts in, but we
realized that in addition to the questionable latency in doing so,
it only caused unlimited stack nesting and overflow without per-irq
stacks.  We currently set IPIs above other irqs so we typically
only process them during a hard irq (but we return to base level
after IPI and could take another base irq, a bug).


So, Sebastien, with this information, is does the RT kernel have
a strategy that better matches this hardware?

milton
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 04:58 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:
 The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
 single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
 path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
 poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
 which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.

Note also that the XICS code thus assumes, iirc, as does the cell IIC
code, that eoi is called on the -same- cpu that fetched the interrupt
initially. That assumption can be broken with IRQ threads no ?

Ben.


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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Milton Miller

On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:17 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 04:58 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:

The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.


Note also that the XICS code thus assumes, iirc, as does the cell IIC
code, that eoi is called on the -same- cpu that fetched the interrupt
initially. That assumption can be broken with IRQ threads no ?


There may be some implicit assumption in that we expect the cpu 
priority to be returned to normal by the EOI, but there is nothing in 
the hardware that requires the EOI to come from the same cpu as 
accepted the interrupt for processing, with the exception of the IPI 
which is per-cpu (and the only interrupt that is per-cpu).


It would probably mean adding the concept of the current cpu priority 
vs interrupts and making sure we write it to hardware at irq_exit() 
time when deferring the actual irq handlers.


The MPIC hardware, on the other hand, maintains a queue of pending 
interrupts (It has been about a decade but the number 4-5 comes to 
mind), and the hardware must receive the EOI on the cpu that took it.  
I am guessing that the handling described (take level irq, mask it, eoi 
it, dispatch the thread, then unmask it after processing) is a result 
to work within those limitations.  Do you know the cell IIC to know if 
its mpic or xics in this regard?


The other unknown is the (very few) platforms that present as xics but 
are really firmware on mpic.  If they do a full virtual layer and don't 
take shortcuts but do eoi/mask like described here they should work, 
but I would not be surprised that does not hold true :-(.


milton

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Sebastien Dugue

  Hi Milton,

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Milton Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Jan-Bernd wrote:
  Ben, can you / your team look into the implementation
  of the set_irq_type functionality needed for XICS?
 
 I'm not volunteering to look at or implement any changes for how xics
 works with generic irq, but I'm trying to understand what the rt kernel
 is trying to accomplish with this statement:
 
 On Mon Sep 15 at 18:04:06 EST in 2008, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
  When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are
  masked, then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the
  end of hardirq processing.  That's fine as any interrupt comming
  in-between will still be processed since the kernel replays those
  pending interrupts.
 
 Is this to generate some kind of software managed nesting and priority
 of the hardware level interrupts?

  No, not really. This is only to be sure to not miss interrupts coming
from the same source that were received during threaded hardirq processing.
Some instrumentation showed that it never seems to happen in the eHEA
interrupt case, so I think we can forget this aspect.

  Also, the problem only manifests with the eHEA RX interrupt. For example,
the IBM Power Raid (ipr) SCSI exhibits absolutely no problem under an RT
kernel. From this I conclude that:

  IPR - PCI - XICS is OK
  eHEA - IBMEBUS - XICS is broken with hardirq preemption.

  I also checked that forcing the eHEA interrupt to take the non threaded
path does work.


  Here is a side by side comparison of the fasteoi flow with and without hardirq
threading (sorry it's a bit wide)


fasteoi flow:


Non threaded hardirq|   
threaded hardirq
|
   interrupt context|  interrupt context
hardirq thread
   -|  -
--
|
|
clear IRQ_REPLAY and IRQ_WAITING|   clear IRQ_REPLAY and 
IRQ_WAITING
|
increment percpu interrupt count|   increment percpu 
interrupt count
|
if no action or IRQ_INPROGRESS or IRQ_DISABLED  |   if no action or 
IRQ_INPROGRESS or IRQ_DISABLED
|
  set IRQ_PENDING   | set IRQ_PENDING
|
  mask  | mask
|
  eoi   | eoi
|
  done  | done
|
set IRQ_INPROGRESS  |   set IRQ_INPROGRESS
|
|
|   wakeup IRQ thread
|
|   mask
|
|   eoi
|
|   done --
|  \
|   
\
|   
 \
|   
  -- loop
|
clear IRQ_PENDING   |   
clear IRQ_PENDING
|
call handle_IRQ_event   |   
call handle_IRQ_event
|
|   
check for prempt
|
|   
  until IRQ_PENDING cleared
|
|
clear IRQ_INPROGRESS|   
  clear IRQ_INPROGRESS
|
if not IRQ_DISABLED |   

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Sebastien Dugue

  Hi Ben,

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:17:47 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 04:58 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:
  The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
  single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
  path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
  poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
  which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.
 
 Note also that the XICS code thus assumes, iirc, as does the cell IIC
 code, that eoi is called on the -same- cpu that fetched the interrupt
 initially. That assumption can be broken with IRQ threads no ?

  No, the fetch and the eoi are both done in interrupt context before
the hardirq thread is woken up.

  On the other hand, the mask+eoi and the unmask may well happen
on different cpus as there's only one hardirq thread per irq on
the system. Don't know if this is a problem with the XICS though.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

 
 Ben.
 
 
 
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Milton Miller

On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Sebastien Dugue wrote:

  Hi Milton,
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Milton Miller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon Sep 15 at 18:04:06 EST in 2008, Sebastien Dugue wrote:

When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are
masked, then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the
end of hardirq processing.  That's fine as any interrupt comming
in-between will still be processed since the kernel replays those
pending interrupts.


Is this to generate some kind of software managed nesting and priority
of the hardware level interrupts?


  No, not really. This is only to be sure to not miss interrupts coming
from the same source that were received during threaded hardirq 
processing.

Some instrumentation showed that it never seems to happen in the eHEA
interrupt case, so I think we can forget this aspect.


I don't trust the interrupt can never happen during hea hardirq, 
because I think there will be a race between their rearming the next 
interrupt and the unmask being called.


I was trying to understand why the mask and early eoi, but I guess its 
to handle other more limited interrupt controllers where the interrupts 
stack in hardware instead of software.


  Also, the problem only manifests with the eHEA RX interrupt. For 
example,
the IBM Power Raid (ipr) SCSI exhibits absolutely no problem under an 
RT

kernel. From this I conclude that:

  IPR - PCI - XICS is OK
  eHEA - IBMEBUS - XICS is broken with hardirq preemption.

  I also checked that forcing the eHEA interrupt to take the non 
threaded

path does work.


For a long period of time, XICS dealt only with level interrupts.   
First Micro Channel, and later PCI buses.  The IPI is made level by 
software conventions.  Recently, EHCA, EHEA, and MSI interrupts were 
added which by their nature are edge based.  The logic that converts 
those interrupts to the XICS layer is responsible for the resend when 
no cpu can accept them, but not to retrigger after an EOI.


  Here is a side by side comparison of the fasteoi flow with and 
without hardirq

threading (sorry it's a bit wide)

(removed)

  the non-threaded flow does (in interrupt context):

mask
handle interrupt
unmask
eoi

  the threaded flow does:

mask
eoi
handle interrupt
unmask

  If I remove the mask() call, then the eHEA is no longer hanging.


Hmm, I guess I'm confused.  You are saying the irq does not appear if 
it occurs while it is masked?  Well, in that case, I would guess that 
the hypervisor is checking if the irq is previously pending while it 
was masked and resetting it as part of the unmask.   It can't do it on 
level, but can on the true edge sources.  I would further say the 
justification for this might be the hardware might make it pending from 
some previous stale event that might result in the false interrupt on 
startup were it not to do this clear.



The reason I ask is the xics controller can do unlimited nesting
of hardware interrupts.  In fact, the hardware has 255 levels of
priority, of which 16 or so are reserved by the hypervisor, leaving
over 200 for the os to manage.  Higher numbers are lower in priority,
and the hardware will only dispatch an interrupt to a given cpu if
it is currenty at a lower priority.  If it is at a higher priority
and the interrupt is not bound to a specific cpu it will look for
another cpu to dispatch it.  The hardware will not re-present an
irq until the it is EOId (managed by a small state machine per
interrupt at the source, which also handles no cpu available try
again later), but software can return its cpu priority to the
previous level to recieve other interrupt sources at the same level.
The hardware also supports lazy update of the cpu priority register
when an interrupt is presented; as long as the cpu is hard-irq
enabled it can take the irq then write is real priority and let the
hw decide if the irq is still pending or it must defer or try another
cpu in the rejection scenerio.  The only restriction is that the
EOI can not cause an interrupt reject by raising the priority while
sending the EOI command.

The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.

We used to lower the priority to allow other interrupts in, but we
realized that in addition to the questionable latency in doing so,
it only caused unlimited stack nesting and overflow without per-irq
stacks.  We currently set IPIs above other irqs so we typically
only process them during a hard irq (but we return to base level
after IPI and could take another base irq, a bug).


So, Sebastien, with this information, is does the RT kernel have
a strategy that better matches this 

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

 There may be some implicit assumption in that we expect the cpu 
 priority to be returned to normal by the EOI, but there is nothing in 
 the hardware that requires the EOI to come from the same cpu as 
 accepted the interrupt for processing, with the exception of the IPI 
 which is per-cpu (and the only interrupt that is per-cpu).

Well, there is one fundamental one: The XIRR register we access is
per-CPU, so if we are to return the right processor priority, we must
make sure we write the right XIRR.

Same with Cell, MPIC, actually and a few others. In general I'd say most
fast_eoi type PICs have this requirement.

 It would probably mean adding the concept of the current cpu priority 
 vs interrupts and making sure we write it to hardware at irq_exit() 
 time when deferring the actual irq handlers.

I think we need something like a special -rt variant of the fast_eoi
handler that masks  eoi's in ack() before the thread is spun off, and
unmasks instead of eoi() when the irq processing is complete.

Ben.


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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:35 +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
 Hi Ben,
 
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:17:47 +1000 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 04:58 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:
   The per-interrupt mask and unmask calls have to go through RTAS, a
   single-threaded global context, which in addition to increasing
   path length will really limit scalability.  The interrupt controller
   poll and reject facilities are accessed through hypervisor calls
   which are comparable to a fast syscall, and parallel to all cpus.
  
  Note also that the XICS code thus assumes, iirc, as does the cell IIC
  code, that eoi is called on the -same- cpu that fetched the interrupt
  initially. That assumption can be broken with IRQ threads no ?
 
   No, the fetch and the eoi are both done in interrupt context before
 the hardirq thread is woken up.
 
   On the other hand, the mask+eoi and the unmask may well happen
 on different cpus as there's only one hardirq thread per irq on
 the system. Don't know if this is a problem with the XICS though.

Ok, that's the right approach then. It should work. I don't know what
the specific problems with HEA are at this stage. It doesn't seem to
make sense to implement a set_irq_type(), what would it do ? The
XICS doesn't expose any concept of interrupt type...

Ben.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:42 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:
 
 I was trying to understand why the mask and early eoi, but I guess its 
 to handle other more limited interrupt controllers where the interrupts 
 stack in hardware instead of software.

No Milton, we must do it that way, because the EOI must be done on the
right CPU even on XICS, or we won't get the CPU priority back properly.

Ben.

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-24 Thread Milton Miller

On Sep 24, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:42 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:


I was trying to understand why the mask and early eoi, but I guess its
to handle other more limited interrupt controllers where the 
interrupts

stack in hardware instead of software.


No Milton, we must do it that way, because the EOI must be done on the
right CPU even on XICS, or we won't get the CPU priority back properly.


Ben and I had a online chat, and he pointed out I needed to be more 
specific in saying what I was thinking.



I think the flows we want on xics are:

(non-threaded)
getirq (implicit source specific mask until eoi)
handle interrupt
eoi (implicit cpu priority restore)

(threaded)
getirq (implicit source specific mask until eoi)
explicit cpu priority restore
handle interrupt
eoi (implicit cpu priority restore to same as explicit level)



cpu takes interrupt, checks soft disabled
if so,
set hard disabled
else
call get_irq
if threaded
write cppr to restore this cpu irq dispatch state to 
non-interrupt
mark irq thread as irq pending
else
handle interrupt
eoi (cppr = base)

irq thread will
handle interrupt
eoi
wait for marked pending again

The part Ben did not follow was that the cppr write to base priority is 
done by the interrupted cpu (like the mask and eoi in the current flow) 
and only the final eoi (where the mask is in the existing flow) is done 
on which ever cpu happens to run the irq thread.



(optional) As I was discussing with Paul, when taking an irq when 
soft-disabled but still hard enabled, it is possible to write the cppr 
such that it would reject the pending irq and have it be considered for 
dispatch to another cpu.   But it would increase pathlength on both the 
go-to-hard-disabled and return-from-hard-disabled and the hardware will 
have some latency as it will likely send it back to the io source until 
it retrys, so we would only want to do this if the hard-disable period 
is sufficiently long.


milton

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption, eHCA is close

2008-09-23 Thread Jan-Bernd Themann
Hi,

I think these are the functional changes that need to be included in
the ibmebus driver. We'll add a RT flag in the final version to enable
these changes only for RT-Linux for now. 
Ben, can you / your team look into the implementation
of the set_irq_type functionality needed for XICS?

Regards,
Jan-Bernd  Christoph

diff -Nurp b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
--- b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c 2008-09-22 00:29:55.0 +0200
+++ a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c 2008-09-23 12:04:53.0 +0200
@@ -216,12 +216,16 @@ int ibmebus_request_irq(u32 ist, irq_han
unsigned long irq_flags, const char *devname,
void *dev_id)
 {
+   int ret;
unsigned int irq = irq_create_mapping(NULL, ist);
 
if (irq == NO_IRQ)
return -EINVAL;
 
-   return request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
+   ret = request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
+   set_irq_type(irq, IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING);
+
+   return ret;
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(ibmebus_request_irq);
 


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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-18 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:53:54 +0200 Christoph Raisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.09.2008 10:04:06:
  [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with
  hardirq preemption
 
  Sebastien Dugue
 
  to:
 
  15.09.2008 10:07
 
  Cc:
 
  linux-ppc, linux-kernel, Linux-rt, netdev, Jan-Bernd Themann, Thomas
  Q Klein, Christoph Raisch, jean-pierre.dion, gilles.carry, tinytim
 
 
  WARNING: HACK - HACK - HACK
  Not-Signed-off-by: Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ---
  --- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
  +++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
  @@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
  -   return request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
  +   ret = request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
  +
  +   desc = irq_desc + irq;
  +   desc-status = ~(IRQ_TYPE_SENSE_MASK | IRQ_LEVEL);
  +   desc-status |= IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING;
  +
  +   return ret;
 This looks a bit like a set_irq_type call.

  Yep.

 Don't know if this is fully implemented for xics though...

  No, the xics does not implement a set_type() method.

   }
   EXPORT_SYMBOL(ibmebus_request_irq);
 
  diff --git a/kernel/irq/chip.c b/kernel/irq/chip.c
  index b7b397a..6d366ca 100644
  --- a/kernel/irq/chip.c
  +++ b/kernel/irq/chip.c
  @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct
  irq_desc *desc)
  action = desc-action;
  if (unlikely(!action || (desc-status  (IRQ_INPROGRESS |
  IRQ_DISABLED {
  -  desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING;
  +  desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING | IRQ_MASKED;
 if (desc-chip-mask)
desc-chip-mask(irq);
 goto out;
  @@ -439,9 +439,10 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct
  irq_desc *desc)
  desc-status |= IRQ_INPROGRESS;
  /*
   * In the threaded case we fall back to a mask+eoi sequence:
  +* excepted for edge interrupts which are not masked.
   */
  if (redirect_hardirq(desc)) {
  -  if (desc-chip-mask)
  +  if (desc-chip-mask  !(desc-status  IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_BOTH))
desc-chip-mask(irq);
 goto out;
  }
  diff --git a/kernel/irq/manage.c b/kernel/irq/manage.c
  index 3bffa20..3e39c71 100644
  --- a/kernel/irq/manage.c
  +++ b/kernel/irq/manage.c
  @@ -788,9 +788,12 @@ static void do_hardirq(struct irq_desc *desc)
 thread_simple_irq(desc);
  else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_level_irq)
 thread_level_irq(desc);
  -   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_fasteoi_irq)
  -  thread_fasteoi_irq(desc);
  -   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_edge_irq)
  +   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_fasteoi_irq) {
  +  if (desc-status  IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_BOTH)
  + thread_edge_irq(desc);
  +  else
  + thread_fasteoi_irq(desc);
  +   } else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_edge_irq)
 thread_edge_irq(desc);
  else
 thread_do_irq(desc);
  --
  1.6.0.1.308.gede4c
 
 According to the specs at some point in the system the HEA IRQs have a edge
 characteristic.
 But since PCI-E edge and level can both be forwarded through a message
 interface
 (HEA is not PCI-E, it's only connected to the same internal bus, where the
 PHB resides)

  Good to know, the problem here seems to be that the xics is using the
fasteoi flow handler, which under unconditionally masks the irq. Will have to
dig in the genirq stuff a bit more to understand what the differences are
between -rt and mainline.

 
 Anybody from the xics experts want to comment on this?

  It would be really interresting to know if the eHCA exhibits the same
problem under -rt as it's the only other user of the ibmebus.
Unfortunately I don't have the hardware to test.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.


 
 
 
 Gruss / Regards
 Christoph R.   Jan-Bernd
 
 
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption, eHCA is close

2008-09-18 Thread Christoph Raisch

Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18.09.2008 11:27:13:


   It would be really interresting to know if the eHCA exhibits the same
 problem under -rt as it's the only other user of the ibmebus.
 Unfortunately I don't have the hardware to test.


eHCA is very close from the interrupt generation and handling perspective,
so yes, could be an issue there as well.


Gruss / Regards
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption, eHCA is close

2008-09-18 Thread Sebastien Dugue
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:42:05 +0200 Christoph Raisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18.09.2008 11:27:13:
 
 
It would be really interresting to know if the eHCA exhibits the same
  problem under -rt as it's the only other user of the ibmebus.
  Unfortunately I don't have the hardware to test.
 
 
 eHCA is very close from the interrupt generation and handling perspective,
 so yes, could be an issue there as well.

  That's what I was speculating.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

 
 
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 Christoph Raisch
 
 
 
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-16 Thread Anton Vorontsov
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 03:13:32PM +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
[...]
  we are a bit worried about putting this into the mainstream part of non real
  time linux.
 
   Heck, I sure do not want this to be applied mainstream nor into any tree.
 The sole purpose of this patch was to trigger some reaction from the people 
 who
 know the hardware and try to understand where the problem lies.
 
  There interrupts work perfectly fine, and it was a bit of a
  challenge to get there for all cases / configurations / machines.
 
   Agreed, but the fact that it fails with hardirq preemption leads me to
 believe (without any more knowledge about the harware) that there might be
 something amiss with this driver (or the code concerning the XICS)
 nevertheless.
 
  
  Could you try to enable these changes only for RT-Linux via a real-time
  kconfig switch?
 
   Nope, this is just a quick hack that allows me to have a functional eHEA 
 under
 the rt kernel. I want to understand what the problem is:
 
   - Is the eHEA really delivering level interrupts to the XICS?
 
   - Is the XICS loosing interrupts when they are masked?

There is a known bug in the -rt kernels, the bug causes handlers
to lose edge interrupts.

See this patch:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/6/30/372

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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-16 Thread Sebastien Dugue

  Hi Anton,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:59:47 +0400 Anton Vorontsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 03:13:32PM +0200, Sebastien Dugue wrote:
 [...]
   we are a bit worried about putting this into the mainstream part of non 
   real
   time linux.
  
Heck, I sure do not want this to be applied mainstream nor into any tree.
  The sole purpose of this patch was to trigger some reaction from the people 
  who
  know the hardware and try to understand where the problem lies.
  
   There interrupts work perfectly fine, and it was a bit of a
   challenge to get there for all cases / configurations / machines.
  
Agreed, but the fact that it fails with hardirq preemption leads me to
  believe (without any more knowledge about the harware) that there might be
  something amiss with this driver (or the code concerning the XICS)
  nevertheless.
  
   
   Could you try to enable these changes only for RT-Linux via a real-time
   kconfig switch?
  
Nope, this is just a quick hack that allows me to have a functional eHEA 
  under
  the rt kernel. I want to understand what the problem is:
  
- Is the eHEA really delivering level interrupts to the XICS?
  
- Is the XICS loosing interrupts when they are masked?
 
 There is a known bug in the -rt kernels, the bug causes handlers
 to lose edge interrupts.
 
 See this patch:
 
 http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/6/30/372

  Yes, I've been following that thread back then and my hack is based on your
patch. So yes, it seems to be the same problem and it lies in the way -rt 
handles
the fasteoi flow.

  But looking at the comments from the XICS code, it seems that its wired for
level only interrupts. Therefore without any more specs, it's still not clear to
me that there's not a bug with the way the xics handles eHEA interrupts.

  Are the eHEA interrupts really level interrupts? If so why do they get lost
when masked?

  I just found that not masking that particular interrupt in the fasteoi path
makes the thing work!

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

 
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Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-15 Thread Jan-Bernd Themann
Hi,

we are a bit worried about putting this into the mainstream part of non 
real time linux.
There interrupts work perfectly fine, and it was a bit of a challenge to 
get there for all
cases / configurations / machines.

Could you try to enable these changes only for RT-Linux via a real-time 
kconfig switch?
This way we make sure we don't break the scheme for eHEA / eHCA. 

Regards,
Jan-Bernd  Christoph

Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 15.09.2008 10:04:06:

 
 WARNING: HACK - HACK - HACK
 
   Under the RT kernel (with hardirq preemption) the eHEA driver hangs 
right
 after booting. Fiddling with the hardirqs and softirqs priorities allows 
to
 run a bit longer but as soon as the network gets under load, the hang
 returns. After investigating, it appears that the driver is loosing 
 interrupts.
 
   To make a long story short, looking at the code, it appears that the 
XICS
 maps all its interrupts to level sensitive interrupts (I don't know 
 if it's the
 reality or if it's due to an incomplete implementation - no datasheets
 available to check) and use the fasteoi processing flow.
 
   When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are 
masked,
 then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the end of hardirq
 processing.
 That's fine as any interrupt comming in-between will still be processed 
since
 the kernel replays those pending interrupts.
 
   However, it appears that the eHEA interrupts are behaving as edge 
sensitive
 interrupts and are routed through the XICS which process those as level
 sensitive using the fasteoi handler __OR__ the XICS loses interruptswhen 
they
 are masked.
 
   Therefore the masking done in the handler causes any interrupt 
 happening while
 in the handler to be lost.
 
   So this patch maps the interrupts being requested through
 ibmebus_request_irq() as edge sensitive interrupts (this concerns 
 both the eHEA
 and the eHCA - only users of ibmebus_request_irq()) and changes the way 
edge
 interrupts are processed by the fasteoi handler.
 
   It works for the eHEA, dunno for the eHCA.
 
   So, unless all the designers of the XICS  eHEA have been shot to keep 
it
 a secret, could someone knowledgeable shed some light on this issue.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Sebastien.
 
 Not-Signed-off-by: Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---
  arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c |   11 ++-
  kernel/irq/chip.c |5 +++--
  kernel/irq/manage.c   |9 ++---
  3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c 
b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
 index 9971159..5200323 100644
 --- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
 +++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
 @@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
  #include linux/kobject.h
  #include linux/dma-mapping.h
  #include linux/interrupt.h
 +#include linux/irq.h
  #include linux/of.h
  #include linux/of_platform.h
  #include asm/ibmebus.h
 @@ -213,11 +214,19 @@ int ibmebus_request_irq(u32 ist, irq_handler_t 
handler,
   void *dev_id)
  {
 unsigned int irq = irq_create_mapping(NULL, ist);
 +   struct irq_desc *desc;
 +   int ret;
 
 if (irq == NO_IRQ)
return -EINVAL;
 
 -   return request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
 +   ret = request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
 +
 +   desc = irq_desc + irq;
 +   desc-status = ~(IRQ_TYPE_SENSE_MASK | IRQ_LEVEL);
 +   desc-status |= IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING;
 +
 +   return ret;
  }
  EXPORT_SYMBOL(ibmebus_request_irq);
 
 diff --git a/kernel/irq/chip.c b/kernel/irq/chip.c
 index b7b397a..6d366ca 100644
 --- a/kernel/irq/chip.c
 +++ b/kernel/irq/chip.c
 @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct 
 irq_desc *desc)
 action = desc-action;
 if (unlikely(!action || (desc-status  (IRQ_INPROGRESS |
 IRQ_DISABLED {
 -  desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING;
 +  desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING | IRQ_MASKED;
if (desc-chip-mask)
   desc-chip-mask(irq);
goto out;
 @@ -439,9 +439,10 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct 
 irq_desc *desc)
 desc-status |= IRQ_INPROGRESS;
 /*
  * In the threaded case we fall back to a mask+eoi sequence:
 +* excepted for edge interrupts which are not masked.
  */
 if (redirect_hardirq(desc)) {
 -  if (desc-chip-mask)
 +  if (desc-chip-mask  !(desc-status  IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_BOTH))
   desc-chip-mask(irq);
goto out;
 }
 diff --git a/kernel/irq/manage.c b/kernel/irq/manage.c
 index 3bffa20..3e39c71 100644
 --- a/kernel/irq/manage.c
 +++ b/kernel/irq/manage.c
 @@ -788,9 +788,12 @@ static void do_hardirq(struct irq_desc *desc)
thread_simple_irq(desc);
 else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_level_irq)
thread_level_irq(desc);
 -   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_fasteoi_irq)
 -  thread_fasteoi_irq(desc);
 -   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_edge_irq)
 +   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_fasteoi_irq) {
 +  if (desc-status  

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-15 Thread Thomas Klein

Hi,

we are a bit worried about putting this into the mainstream part of non real
time linux. There interrupts work perfectly fine, and it was a bit of a
challenge to get there for all cases / configurations / machines.

Could you try to enable these changes only for RT-Linux via a real-time
kconfig switch? This way we make sure we don't break the scheme for
eHEA / eHCA.

Regards,
Jan-Bernd, Christoph


Sebastien Dugue wrote:

WARNING: HACK - HACK - HACK

  Under the RT kernel (with hardirq preemption) the eHEA driver hangs right
after booting. Fiddling with the hardirqs and softirqs priorities allows to
run a bit longer but as soon as the network gets under load, the hang
returns. After investigating, it appears that the driver is loosing interrupts.

  To make a long story short, looking at the code, it appears that the XICS
maps all its interrupts to level sensitive interrupts (I don't know if it's the
reality or if it's due to an incomplete implementation - no datasheets
available to check) and use the fasteoi processing flow.

  When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are masked,
then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the end of hardirq
processing.
That's fine as any interrupt comming in-between will still be processed since
the kernel replays those pending interrupts.

  However, it appears that the eHEA interrupts are behaving as edge sensitive
interrupts and are routed through the XICS which process those as level
sensitive using the fasteoi handler __OR__ the XICS loses interrupts when they
are masked.

  Therefore the masking done in the handler causes any interrupt happening while
in the handler to be lost.

  So this patch maps the interrupts being requested through
ibmebus_request_irq() as edge sensitive interrupts (this concerns both the eHEA
and the eHCA - only users of ibmebus_request_irq()) and changes the way edge
interrupts are processed by the fasteoi handler.

  It works for the eHEA, dunno for the eHCA.

  So, unless all the designers of the XICS  eHEA have been shot to keep it
a secret, could someone knowledgeable shed some light on this issue.

  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

Not-Signed-off-by: Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
 arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c |   11 ++-
 kernel/irq/chip.c |5 +++--
 kernel/irq/manage.c   |9 ++---
 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
index 9971159..5200323 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
 #include linux/kobject.h
 #include linux/dma-mapping.h
 #include linux/interrupt.h
+#include linux/irq.h
 #include linux/of.h
 #include linux/of_platform.h
 #include asm/ibmebus.h
@@ -213,11 +214,19 @@ int ibmebus_request_irq(u32 ist, irq_handler_t handler,
void *dev_id)
 {
unsigned int irq = irq_create_mapping(NULL, ist);
+   struct irq_desc *desc;
+   int ret;
 
 	if (irq == NO_IRQ)

return -EINVAL;
 
-	return request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);

+   ret = request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
+
+   desc = irq_desc + irq;
+   desc-status = ~(IRQ_TYPE_SENSE_MASK | IRQ_LEVEL);
+   desc-status |= IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING;
+
+   return ret;
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(ibmebus_request_irq);
 
diff --git a/kernel/irq/chip.c b/kernel/irq/chip.c

index b7b397a..6d366ca 100644
--- a/kernel/irq/chip.c
+++ b/kernel/irq/chip.c
@@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct irq_desc *desc)
action = desc-action;
if (unlikely(!action || (desc-status  (IRQ_INPROGRESS |
 IRQ_DISABLED {
-   desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING;
+   desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING | IRQ_MASKED;
if (desc-chip-mask)
desc-chip-mask(irq);
goto out;
@@ -439,9 +439,10 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct irq_desc *desc)
desc-status |= IRQ_INPROGRESS;
/*
 * In the threaded case we fall back to a mask+eoi sequence:
+* excepted for edge interrupts which are not masked.
 */
if (redirect_hardirq(desc)) {
-   if (desc-chip-mask)
+   if (desc-chip-mask  !(desc-status  IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_BOTH))
desc-chip-mask(irq);
goto out;
}
diff --git a/kernel/irq/manage.c b/kernel/irq/manage.c
index 3bffa20..3e39c71 100644
--- a/kernel/irq/manage.c
+++ b/kernel/irq/manage.c
@@ -788,9 +788,12 @@ static void do_hardirq(struct irq_desc *desc)
thread_simple_irq(desc);
else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_level_irq)
thread_level_irq(desc);
-   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_fasteoi_irq)
-   thread_fasteoi_irq(desc);
-   else if (desc-handle_irq == handle_edge_irq)
+   else 

Re: [PATCH HACK] powerpc: quick hack to get a functional eHEA with hardirq preemption

2008-09-15 Thread Sebastien Dugue

  Hi Thomas, Jan-Bernd, Christoph,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:35:16 +0200 Thomas Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 we are a bit worried about putting this into the mainstream part of non real
 time linux.

  Heck, I sure do not want this to be applied mainstream nor into any tree.
The sole purpose of this patch was to trigger some reaction from the people who
know the hardware and try to understand where the problem lies.

 There interrupts work perfectly fine, and it was a bit of a
 challenge to get there for all cases / configurations / machines.

  Agreed, but the fact that it fails with hardirq preemption leads me to
believe (without any more knowledge about the harware) that there might be
something amiss with this driver (or the code concerning the XICS)
nevertheless.

 
 Could you try to enable these changes only for RT-Linux via a real-time
 kconfig switch?

  Nope, this is just a quick hack that allows me to have a functional eHEA under
the rt kernel. I want to understand what the problem is:

  - Is the eHEA really delivering level interrupts to the XICS?

  - Is the XICS loosing interrupts when they are masked?

  - ...?

 This way we make sure we don't break the scheme for
 eHEA / eHCA.

  Sure, I do not want to break anything, quite the opposite in fact ;-)


  Thanks,

  Sebastien.

 
 Regards,
 Jan-Bernd, Christoph
 
 
 Sebastien Dugue wrote:
  WARNING: HACK - HACK - HACK
  
Under the RT kernel (with hardirq preemption) the eHEA driver hangs right
  after booting. Fiddling with the hardirqs and softirqs priorities allows to
  run a bit longer but as soon as the network gets under load, the hang
  returns. After investigating, it appears that the driver is loosing 
  interrupts.
  
To make a long story short, looking at the code, it appears that the XICS
  maps all its interrupts to level sensitive interrupts (I don't know if it's 
  the
  reality or if it's due to an incomplete implementation - no datasheets
  available to check) and use the fasteoi processing flow.
  
When entering the low level handler, level sensitive interrupts are 
  masked,
  then eio'd in interrupt context and then unmasked at the end of hardirq
  processing.
  That's fine as any interrupt comming in-between will still be processed 
  since
  the kernel replays those pending interrupts.
  
However, it appears that the eHEA interrupts are behaving as edge 
  sensitive
  interrupts and are routed through the XICS which process those as level
  sensitive using the fasteoi handler __OR__ the XICS loses interrupts when 
  they
  are masked.
  
Therefore the masking done in the handler causes any interrupt happening 
  while
  in the handler to be lost.
  
So this patch maps the interrupts being requested through
  ibmebus_request_irq() as edge sensitive interrupts (this concerns both the 
  eHEA
  and the eHCA - only users of ibmebus_request_irq()) and changes the way edge
  interrupts are processed by the fasteoi handler.
  
It works for the eHEA, dunno for the eHCA.
  
So, unless all the designers of the XICS  eHEA have been shot to keep it
  a secret, could someone knowledgeable shed some light on this issue.
  
Thanks,
  
Sebastien.
  
  Not-Signed-off-by: Sebastien Dugue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ---
   arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c |   11 ++-
   kernel/irq/chip.c |5 +++--
   kernel/irq/manage.c   |9 ++---
   3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
  index 9971159..5200323 100644
  --- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
  +++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/ibmebus.c
  @@ -41,6 +41,7 @@
   #include linux/kobject.h
   #include linux/dma-mapping.h
   #include linux/interrupt.h
  +#include linux/irq.h
   #include linux/of.h
   #include linux/of_platform.h
   #include asm/ibmebus.h
  @@ -213,11 +214,19 @@ int ibmebus_request_irq(u32 ist, irq_handler_t 
  handler,
  void *dev_id)
   {
  unsigned int irq = irq_create_mapping(NULL, ist);
  +   struct irq_desc *desc;
  +   int ret;
   
  if (irq == NO_IRQ)
  return -EINVAL;
   
  -   return request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
  +   ret = request_irq(irq, handler, irq_flags, devname, dev_id);
  +
  +   desc = irq_desc + irq;
  +   desc-status = ~(IRQ_TYPE_SENSE_MASK | IRQ_LEVEL);
  +   desc-status |= IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_RISING;
  +
  +   return ret;
   }
   EXPORT_SYMBOL(ibmebus_request_irq);
   
  diff --git a/kernel/irq/chip.c b/kernel/irq/chip.c
  index b7b397a..6d366ca 100644
  --- a/kernel/irq/chip.c
  +++ b/kernel/irq/chip.c
  @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ handle_fasteoi_irq(unsigned int irq, struct irq_desc 
  *desc)
  action = desc-action;
  if (unlikely(!action || (desc-status  (IRQ_INPROGRESS |
   IRQ_DISABLED {
  -   desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING;
  +   desc-status |= IRQ_PENDING | IRQ_MASKED;