Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] powerpc/powernv: remove opal_sensor_mutex
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 17:39 +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > The opal sensor mutex protects the opal_sensor_read call which > can return a OPAL_BUSY code on IBM Power systems if a previous > request is in progress. > > This can be handled at user level with a retry. It can, but how does it actually look in practice? It looks like the only use of opal_get_sensor_data() is show_sensor() in drivers/hwmon/ibmpowernv.c. Because that's a sysfs attribute folks will be generally just dumping that with cat, or reading it in a shell script, neither of which will cope nicely with EBUSY I think? cheers ___ Linuxppc-dev mailing list Linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/linuxppc-dev
Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] powerpc/powernv: remove opal_sensor_mutex
On 03/30/2015 04:09 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote: > On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 17:39 +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: >> The opal sensor mutex protects the opal_sensor_read call which >> can return a OPAL_BUSY code on IBM Power systems if a previous >> request is in progress. >> >> This can be handled at user level with a retry. > > It can, but how does it actually look in practice? > > It looks like the only use of opal_get_sensor_data() is show_sensor() in > drivers/hwmon/ibmpowernv.c. > > Because that's a sysfs attribute folks will be generally just dumping > that with cat, or reading it in a shell script, neither of which will > cope nicely with EBUSY I think? It won't, I agree but it should only happen when running concurrent cat commands on the hwmon sysfs files. The event should be rare enough. Anyhow, this is not a big issue. We can drop that patch. The real "issue" is the time it takes to get some values back from the FSP. This is what user space has been most surprised about. Thanks, C. ___ Linuxppc-dev mailing list Linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/linuxppc-dev
Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] powerpc/powernv: remove opal_sensor_mutex
On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 08:51 +0200, Cedric Le Goater wrote: > On 03/30/2015 04:09 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 17:39 +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > >> The opal sensor mutex protects the opal_sensor_read call which > >> can return a OPAL_BUSY code on IBM Power systems if a previous > >> request is in progress. > >> > >> This can be handled at user level with a retry. > > > > It can, but how does it actually look in practice? > > > > It looks like the only use of opal_get_sensor_data() is show_sensor() in > > drivers/hwmon/ibmpowernv.c. > > > > Because that's a sysfs attribute folks will be generally just dumping > > that with cat, or reading it in a shell script, neither of which will > > cope nicely with EBUSY I think? > > It won't, I agree but it should only happen when running concurrent cat > commands on the hwmon sysfs files. The event should be rare enough. Rare enough maybe, but a real pain in the .. to cope with in a shell script if you're trying to automate something. > Anyhow, this is not a big issue. We can drop that patch. The real "issue" > is the time it takes to get some values back from the FSP. This is what > user space has been most surprised about. OK. The other option would be to move the mutex into the sysfs show routine, so only that is synchronous. That would give you nice behaviour from cat, ie. it would sleep on contention but still be killable with ctrl-c. cheers ___ Linuxppc-dev mailing list Linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/linuxppc-dev
Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] powerpc/powernv: remove opal_sensor_mutex
On 03/30/2015 08:59 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote: > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 08:51 +0200, Cedric Le Goater wrote: >> On 03/30/2015 04:09 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote: >>> On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 17:39 +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: The opal sensor mutex protects the opal_sensor_read call which can return a OPAL_BUSY code on IBM Power systems if a previous request is in progress. This can be handled at user level with a retry. >>> >>> It can, but how does it actually look in practice? >>> >>> It looks like the only use of opal_get_sensor_data() is show_sensor() in >>> drivers/hwmon/ibmpowernv.c. >>> >>> Because that's a sysfs attribute folks will be generally just dumping >>> that with cat, or reading it in a shell script, neither of which will >>> cope nicely with EBUSY I think? >> >> It won't, I agree but it should only happen when running concurrent cat >> commands on the hwmon sysfs files. The event should be rare enough. > > Rare enough maybe, but a real pain in the .. to cope with in a shell script if > you're trying to automate something. > >> Anyhow, this is not a big issue. We can drop that patch. The real "issue" >> is the time it takes to get some values back from the FSP. This is what >> user space has been most surprised about. > > OK. The other option would be to move the mutex into the sysfs show routine, > so > only that is synchronous. That would give you nice behaviour from cat, ie. it > would sleep on contention but still be killable with ctrl-c. Let's keep it how it is and see if it is possible to the improve OPAL side first. I will send you an updated patchset shortly. Thanks for the review. C. ___ Linuxppc-dev mailing list Linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org https://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/linuxppc-dev