Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:14:37PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: >> Okay, I think I see the problem. >> >> You have a touchscreen device, not a touchpad, right? >> >> Touchscreen and touchpad behaviours are different in xf86-input-wacom. >> >> This difference determined by 'WCM_LCD' flag set on device in >> wcmDeviceTypeKeys() from wcmValidateDevice.c. >> >> Then, in wcmSingleFingerPress() from wcmTouchFilter.c this flag is being >> checked: >> - if it's ON, we make left button press when finger touches the screen >> and button release when finger outs. This seems to be your case. >> - if it's OFF, we just move the cursor. This seems to be my case. It >> seems that tap clicking and tap-and-drag works in this case only. >> >> So, if you are hacking sources anyway, you may try to remove WCM_LCD >> flag from your device and see if it helps. > > > It should not even be set. the tablet_id is 0xA001 for the egalax, > nothing in that sourcefile sets WCM_LCD then. Any idea why it's LCD > anyway? > > I'll try to hack in an xinput setting to allow setting WCM_LCD on the > fly. > > I already tried looking at xsetwacom.c but I could not make no heads nor > tail of that. There was no enum, whatsoever, identifying the settings. > Only strings. Bizarre. >> >> Alexey. Look for usbGenericTouchscreenQuirks() in wcmUSB.c to see how its detected as touchscreen. WCM_TPC also sets WCM_LCD I think (or the other way around). Your asking for a touchscreen to not act as a touchscreen. This will never be an accepted patch for either xf86-input-wacom or other touchscreen drivers such as xf86-input-evdev. They may accept support to say "My touchpad was misdetected as a touchscreen, please treat as a touchpad" but it doesn't exist in either xf86-input-wacom nor xf86-input-evdev right now. You could use that as a way of getting what you want. Sounds like your on the right track to hack up the driver for what ever custom application you have. Chris -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:14:37PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > Okay, I think I see the problem. > > You have a touchscreen device, not a touchpad, right? > > Touchscreen and touchpad behaviours are different in xf86-input-wacom. > > This difference determined by 'WCM_LCD' flag set on device in > wcmDeviceTypeKeys() from wcmValidateDevice.c. > > Then, in wcmSingleFingerPress() from wcmTouchFilter.c this flag is being > checked: > - if it's ON, we make left button press when finger touches the screen > and button release when finger outs. This seems to be your case. > - if it's OFF, we just move the cursor. This seems to be my case. It > seems that tap clicking and tap-and-drag works in this case only. > > So, if you are hacking sources anyway, you may try to remove WCM_LCD > flag from your device and see if it helps. It should not even be set. the tablet_id is 0xA001 for the egalax, nothing in that sourcefile sets WCM_LCD then. Any idea why it's LCD anyway? I'll try to hack in an xinput setting to allow setting WCM_LCD on the fly. I already tried looking at xsetwacom.c but I could not make no heads nor tail of that. There was no enum, whatsoever, identifying the settings. Only strings. Bizarre. > > Alexey. > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:39 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > Alexey, here is some info, as I said with current master: > > > > $ xsetwacom list > > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen stylus id: 12 type: STYLUS > > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen eraser id: 16 type: ERASER > > eGalax_eMPIA Technology Inc. PCAP MultiTouch Controller touch id: 13 > > type: TOUCH > > > > $ xsetwacom --get 13 all > > Option "Area" "0 0 32767 32767" > > 'Button' requires exactly 1 value(s). > > Option "ToolDebugLevel" "0" > > Option "TabletDebugLevel" "0" > > Option "Suppress" "2" > > Option "RawSample" "4" > > Option "PressureCurve" "0 0 100 100" > > Option "Mode" "Absolute" > > Property 'Wacom Hover Click' does not exist on device. > > Option "Touch" "on" > > Option "Gesture" "off" > > Option "ZoomDistance" "1439" > > Option "ScrollDistance" "639" > > Option "TapTime" "250" > > Property 'Wacom Proximity Threshold' does not exist on device. > > Option "Rotate" "none" > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Option "Threshold" "0" > > Option "ToolID" "295" > > Option "ToolSerial" "0" > > Option "ToolSerialPrevious" "1" > > Option "BindToSerial" "0" > > Option "TabletID" "40961" > > > > I also tried with Gesture "on", that didn't make a difference though. > > Why should it. That behaviour we are talking about really has nothing at > > all to do with gestures. > > > > What do you mean you have never seen such behaviour even before your > > patches?! What I described is the normal behaviour! What did you > > understand? > > > > Cedric > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:32:24PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > > > It's strange. > > > > > > I've never seen such behaviour as you describe on xf86-input-wacom nor > > > after my patches neither before. > > > > > > Did you enable Gestures on Touch device with xsetwacom? > > > > > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:25 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > > > I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference > > > > other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY > > > > touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen > > > > device) rendering it unusuable. > > > > > > > > Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically > > > > drag. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > > > > > Hi Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > > > > > > > > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > > > > > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > > > > > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > > > > > was time to add them to man wacom. > > > > > > > > > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > > > > > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > > > > > and succinct as possible. > > > > > > > > > > Favux > > > > -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 17:27 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:14:37PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > > Okay, I think I see the problem. > > > > You have a touchscreen device, not a touchpad, right? > Yes > > > > Touchscreen and touchpad behaviours are different in xf86-input-wacom. > > > > This difference determined by 'WCM_LCD' flag set on device in > > wcmDeviceTypeKeys() from wcmValidateDevice.c. > > > > Then, in wcmSingleFingerPress() from wcmTouchFilter.c this flag is being > > checked: > > - if it's ON, we make left button press when finger touches the screen > > and button release when finger outs. This seems to be your case. > > - if it's OFF, we just move the cursor. This seems to be my case. It > > seems that tap clicking and tap-and-drag works in this case only. > > > I'd like to be able to change between the two modes on the fly. Could > you give me a tip where to start looking for how to implement xinput > properties? Once I figured that out I may actually produce useful > patches. I'm not the one who can tell you how xinput properties works, but you can easily find this out by reading wcmXCommand.c, xsetwacom.c and wacom-properties.h files of xf86-input-wacom sources. Plus, you can use my recent patch (which adds a new useless property to xsetwacom) as an example: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28586329 But this patch wasn't completely reviewed, so it may contain some bad-coded things. Alexey. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
[Linuxwacom-devel] Precedence
I would like to discuss the topic of precedence. Currently, XF86/I/W manages multiple "subdevices" of a single device internally. That solution does not seem very good for the long term. Ben Tissoires once told me about a vision in which all these problems should be rectified, somewhere, somehow, but as of today, I have not seen or heard any details. It should be possible to give any device precedence over another. The best example is perhaps the situation I'm in, where the touchscreen and the digitizer are governed by two distinct devices. Well, you can't apply that concept to just every input device. Whatever layer manages that kind of precedence has to know when a pointer is "active" and therefore possibly "grabs the master". In the case of a pen, that "activity" is apparently indicated by the pen being in the proximity. But so far, "promiximity" appears to be a wacom-specific concept. Therefore my question: Is there anything in place which could allow generalizing that concept onto a layer which allows to apply it to an arbtirary group of devices, possibly not even managed by wacom? PS: In the end, it is my opinion that the XF86/I/W has, forced by the circumstances under which it is written, drifted into the generally wrong direction, incorporating all types of feature it has come accross, like a huge snowball absorbing all kind of matter it rolls over. Many of the features which the wacom currently has should be made available on the XI layer. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:14:37PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > Okay, I think I see the problem. > > You have a touchscreen device, not a touchpad, right? Yes > > Touchscreen and touchpad behaviours are different in xf86-input-wacom. > > This difference determined by 'WCM_LCD' flag set on device in > wcmDeviceTypeKeys() from wcmValidateDevice.c. > > Then, in wcmSingleFingerPress() from wcmTouchFilter.c this flag is being > checked: > - if it's ON, we make left button press when finger touches the screen > and button release when finger outs. This seems to be your case. > - if it's OFF, we just move the cursor. This seems to be my case. It > seems that tap clicking and tap-and-drag works in this case only. > I'd like to be able to change between the two modes on the fly. Could you give me a tip where to start looking for how to implement xinput properties? Once I figured that out I may actually produce useful patches. > So, if you are hacking sources anyway, you may try to remove WCM_LCD > flag from your device and see if it helps. > > Alexey. > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:39 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > Alexey, here is some info, as I said with current master: > > > > $ xsetwacom list > > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen stylus id: 12 type: STYLUS > > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen eraser id: 16 type: ERASER > > eGalax_eMPIA Technology Inc. PCAP MultiTouch Controller touch id: 13 > > type: TOUCH > > > > $ xsetwacom --get 13 all > > Option "Area" "0 0 32767 32767" > > 'Button' requires exactly 1 value(s). > > Option "ToolDebugLevel" "0" > > Option "TabletDebugLevel" "0" > > Option "Suppress" "2" > > Option "RawSample" "4" > > Option "PressureCurve" "0 0 100 100" > > Option "Mode" "Absolute" > > Property 'Wacom Hover Click' does not exist on device. > > Option "Touch" "on" > > Option "Gesture" "off" > > Option "ZoomDistance" "1439" > > Option "ScrollDistance" "639" > > Option "TapTime" "250" > > Property 'Wacom Proximity Threshold' does not exist on device. > > Option "Rotate" "none" > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > > Option "Threshold" "0" > > Option "ToolID" "295" > > Option "ToolSerial" "0" > > Option "ToolSerialPrevious" "1" > > Option "BindToSerial" "0" > > Option "TabletID" "40961" > > > > I also tried with Gesture "on", that didn't make a difference though. > > Why should it. That behaviour we are talking about really has nothing at > > all to do with gestures. > > > > What do you mean you have never seen such behaviour even before your > > patches?! What I described is the normal behaviour! What did you > > understand? > > > > Cedric > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:32:24PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > > > It's strange. > > > > > > I've never seen such behaviour as you describe on xf86-input-wacom nor > > > after my patches neither before. > > > > > > Did you enable Gestures on Touch device with xsetwacom? > > > > > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:25 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > > > I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference > > > > other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY > > > > touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen > > > > device) rendering it unusuable. > > > > > > > > Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically > > > > drag. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > > > > > Hi Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > > > > > > > > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > > > > > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > > > > > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > > > > > was time to add them to man wacom. > > > > > > > > > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > > > > > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > > > > > and succinct as possible. > > > > > > > > > > Favux > > > > -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/le
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:00:41AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > Cedric, are you talking about your ASUS EEE Slate with the Wacom > digitizer and eGalax touchscreen? > > Last I saw Chris was saying use evdev not xf86-input-wacom? I have no memory of that. The xf86-input-wacom works fine with any generic hid-multitouch, I think. > So you > and Benjamin got the hid driver straightened out and you have the > right quirk(s) for xf86-input-wacom? There have never been any quirks for x86-input-wacom. The hid-multitouch required some quirks but since then, the eGalax is a proper multitouch device (or just singletouch, for that matter) > Anyway that's where I suspect the problem is. Unless Alexeys patch relies on some specific wacom feature I would not see how. The eGalax reports completely normal events. FYI i attached a short excerpt from evtest of finger-down & move & finger-up. > > It doesn't seem reasonable to ask Alexey to get up to speed on that > saga. I think you need Chris again if he has some time. I don't think his has anything to do with the fact that this is a eGalax. Of course I might be mistaken. > > Favux slate ~ # ./evtest /dev/input/event9 Input driver version is 1.0.1 Input device ID: bus 0x3 vendor 0xeef product 0xa001 version 0x210 Input device name: "eGalax_eMPIA Technology Inc. PCAP MultiTouch Controller" Supported events: Event type 0 (Sync) Event type 1 (Key) Event code 330 (Touch) Event type 3 (Absolute) Event code 0 (X) Value 24336 Min0 Max32767 Event code 1 (Y) Value 24624 Min0 Max32767 Event code 47 (Slot) Value 0 Min0 Max9 Event code 53 (Position X) Value 0 Min0 Max32767 Event code 54 (Position Y) Value 0 Min0 Max32767 Event code 57 (Tracking ID) Value 0 Min0 Max65535 Testing ... (interrupt to exit) Event: time 1327162176.167606, type 3 (Absolute), code 57 (Tracking ID), value 39610 Event: time 1327162176.167609, type 3 (Absolute), code 53 (Position X), value 23872 Event: time 1327162176.167610, type 3 (Absolute), code 54 (Position Y), value 24064 Event: time 1327162176.167624, type 1 (Key), code 330 (Touch), value 1 Event: time 1327162176.167626, type 3 (Absolute), code 0 (X), value 23872 Event: time 1327162176.167627, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 24064 Event: time 1327162176.167627, -- Report Sync Event: time 1327162176.223537, type 3 (Absolute), code 54 (Position Y), value 24096 Event: time 1327162176.223575, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 24096 Event: time 1327162176.223578, -- Report Sync Event: time 1327162176.244577, type 3 (Absolute), code 53 (Position X), value 23888 Event: time 1327162176.244579, type 3 (Absolute), code 54 (Position Y), value 24240 Event: time 1327162176.244605, type 3 (Absolute), code 0 (X), value 23888 Event: time 1327162176.244607, type 3 (Absolute), code 1 (Y), value 24240 Event: time 1327162176.244608, -- Report Sync Event: time 1327162176.245476, type 3 (Absolute), code 57 (Tracking ID), value -1 Event: time 1327162176.245484, type 1 (Key), code 330 (Touch), value 0 Event: time 1327162176.245485, -- Report Sync ^C slate ~ # -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Okay, I think I see the problem. You have a touchscreen device, not a touchpad, right? Touchscreen and touchpad behaviours are different in xf86-input-wacom. This difference determined by 'WCM_LCD' flag set on device in wcmDeviceTypeKeys() from wcmValidateDevice.c. Then, in wcmSingleFingerPress() from wcmTouchFilter.c this flag is being checked: - if it's ON, we make left button press when finger touches the screen and button release when finger outs. This seems to be your case. - if it's OFF, we just move the cursor. This seems to be my case. It seems that tap clicking and tap-and-drag works in this case only. So, if you are hacking sources anyway, you may try to remove WCM_LCD flag from your device and see if it helps. Alexey. В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:39 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > Alexey, here is some info, as I said with current master: > > $ xsetwacom list > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen stylus id: 12 type: STYLUS > Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen eraser id: 16 type: ERASER > eGalax_eMPIA Technology Inc. PCAP MultiTouch Controller touch id: 13 > type: TOUCH > > $ xsetwacom --get 13 all > Option "Area" "0 0 32767 32767" > 'Button' requires exactly 1 value(s). > Option "ToolDebugLevel" "0" > Option "TabletDebugLevel" "0" > Option "Suppress" "2" > Option "RawSample" "4" > Option "PressureCurve" "0 0 100 100" > Option "Mode" "Absolute" > Property 'Wacom Hover Click' does not exist on device. > Option "Touch" "on" > Option "Gesture" "off" > Option "ZoomDistance" "1439" > Option "ScrollDistance" "639" > Option "TapTime" "250" > Property 'Wacom Proximity Threshold' does not exist on device. > Option "Rotate" "none" > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. > Option "Threshold" "0" > Option "ToolID" "295" > Option "ToolSerial" "0" > Option "ToolSerialPrevious" "1" > Option "BindToSerial" "0" > Option "TabletID" "40961" > > I also tried with Gesture "on", that didn't make a difference though. > Why should it. That behaviour we are talking about really has nothing at > all to do with gestures. > > What do you mean you have never seen such behaviour even before your > patches?! What I described is the normal behaviour! What did you > understand? > > Cedric > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:32:24PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > > It's strange. > > > > I've never seen such behaviour as you describe on xf86-input-wacom nor > > after my patches neither before. > > > > Did you enable Gestures on Touch device with xsetwacom? > > > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:25 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > > I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference > > > other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY > > > touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen > > > device) rendering it unusuable. > > > > > > Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically > > > drag. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > > > > Hi Alexey, > > > > > > > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > > > > > > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > > > > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > > > > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > > > > was time to add them to man wacom. > > > > > > > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > > > > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > > > > and succinct as possible. > > > > > > > > Favux > > -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Cedric, are you talking about your ASUS EEE Slate with the Wacom digitizer and eGalax touchscreen? Last I saw Chris was saying use evdev not xf86-input-wacom? So you and Benjamin got the hid driver straightened out and you have the right quirk(s) for xf86-input-wacom? Anyway that's where I suspect the problem is. It doesn't seem reasonable to ask Alexey to get up to speed on that saga. I think you need Chris again if he has some time. Favux -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Alexey, here is some info, as I said with current master: $ xsetwacom list Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen stylus id: 12 type: STYLUS Wacom ISDv4 90 Pen eraser id: 16 type: ERASER eGalax_eMPIA Technology Inc. PCAP MultiTouch Controller touch id: 13 type: TOUCH $ xsetwacom --get 13 all Option "Area" "0 0 32767 32767" 'Button' requires exactly 1 value(s). Option "ToolDebugLevel" "0" Option "TabletDebugLevel" "0" Option "Suppress" "2" Option "RawSample" "4" Option "PressureCurve" "0 0 100 100" Option "Mode" "Absolute" Property 'Wacom Hover Click' does not exist on device. Option "Touch" "on" Option "Gesture" "off" Option "ZoomDistance" "1439" Option "ScrollDistance" "639" Option "TapTime" "250" Property 'Wacom Proximity Threshold' does not exist on device. Option "Rotate" "none" Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Wheel Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. Property 'Wacom Strip Buttons' does not exist on device. Option "Threshold" "0" Option "ToolID" "295" Option "ToolSerial" "0" Option "ToolSerialPrevious" "1" Option "BindToSerial" "0" Option "TabletID" "40961" I also tried with Gesture "on", that didn't make a difference though. Why should it. That behaviour we are talking about really has nothing at all to do with gestures. What do you mean you have never seen such behaviour even before your patches?! What I described is the normal behaviour! What did you understand? Cedric On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:32:24PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > It's strange. > > I've never seen such behaviour as you describe on xf86-input-wacom nor > after my patches neither before. > > Did you enable Gestures on Touch device with xsetwacom? > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:25 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > > I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference > > other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY > > touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen > > device) rendering it unusuable. > > > > Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically > > drag. > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > > > Hi Alexey, > > > > > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > > > > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > > > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > > > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > > > was time to add them to man wacom. > > > > > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > > > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > > > and succinct as possible. > > > > > > Favux > -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
It's strange. I've never seen such behaviour as you describe on xf86-input-wacom nor after my patches neither before. Did you enable Gestures on Touch device with xsetwacom? В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 16:25 +0100, Cedric Sodhi пишет: > I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference > other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY > touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen > device) rendering it unusuable. > > Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically > drag. > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > > Hi Alexey, > > > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > > was time to add them to man wacom. > > > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > > and succinct as possible. > > > > Favux -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 09:16 -0600, Favux ... пишет: > Hi Alexey, > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. Ok, I see. > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > and succinct as possible. I have no objections to instructions you wrote in this thread earlier. Alexey. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
I just cloned xf86-input-wacom and compiled and I notice no difference other than my local patch (which give pens a global precedence over ANY touch, which I need because my touch-device is not the same as the pen device) rendering it unusuable. Without that patch, the mouse pointer still drags when I physically drag. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:16:42AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > Hi Alexey, > > I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. > > I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're > also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had > settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it > was time to add them to man wacom. > > So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest > please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear > and succinct as possible. > > Favux -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Hi Alexey, thanks for the enhacement. Althought I think it would surely be nicer if this was generically possible regardless of the device type, I only want it for the touchpad. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:01:09PM +0700, Alexey Osipov wrote: > Hi, guys. > > Note that my patches only applicable to touch tool of wacom devices, not > for pen or eraser tools. > > Maybe Cedric wants this behaviour for the pen tool? > > В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 08:48 -0600, Favux ... пишет: > > That's how xf86-input-wacom-0.13.0 should behave since it has Alexey > > Osipov's patches in it. > > > > The instructions are one of my "rough drafts" to include gestures in man > > wacom. > > > > -- > > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > > ___ > > Linuxwacom-devel mailing list > > Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel > -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Hi Alexey, I think Cedric is primarily concerned with touch. I'm actually soliciting input on the gesture instructions. They're also on a linuxwacom-discuss thread where Chris speculated things had settled down enough for gestures (with your patches included) that it was time to add them to man wacom. So if you or Cedric or anyone else has comments or changes to suggest please let me know. Trying to get the gesture instructions as clear and succinct as possible. Favux -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Hi, guys. Note that my patches only applicable to touch tool of wacom devices, not for pen or eraser tools. Maybe Cedric wants this behaviour for the pen tool? В Сбт, 21/01/2012 в 08:48 -0600, Favux ... пишет: > That's how xf86-input-wacom-0.13.0 should behave since it has Alexey > Osipov's patches in it. > > The instructions are one of my "rough drafts" to include gestures in man > wacom. > > -- > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > ___ > Linuxwacom-devel mailing list > Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Forgive my ignorance, but if this is, as you claim, the default behaviour as of 0.13.0, how would I get the "legacy" behaviour that I currently experience in 0.12.0. That is "traditional touchscreen behaviour" where the button is pressed when the finger is touched? Trying 0.13 straight away, thanks Favux! On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:48:22AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > That's how xf86-input-wacom-0.13.0 should behave since it has Alexey > Osipov's patches in it. > > The instructions are one of my "rough drafts" to include gestures in man > wacom. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
That's how xf86-input-wacom-0.13.0 should behave since it has Alexey Osipov's patches in it. The instructions are one of my "rough drafts" to include gestures in man wacom. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
I don't understand what you are saying. My question was whether the wacom can emulate the behaviour of a touchpad, that is, not going "Button Press" when I touch the device (well, you know how a touchpad behaves). You describe the behaviour that I would like to have, but do not explain how to make the wacom behave like that. Clearly, it does not behave like that by default! Cedric On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:10:03AM -0600, Favux ... wrote: > Single finger (1FG) > Left click - tap, actual click happens after TapTime period elapses. > Left click drag - tap to select, quickly (within TapTime period) touch > selection again. Then drag. > > Two finger (2FG) > Right click - one finger down + tap second finger > Vertical scroll - two fingers side by side (e.g. index + second), move > up or down holding constant distance between fingers. > Horizontal scroll - two fingers side by side (e.g. index + second), > move left or right holding constant distance between fingers. > Zoom in - two separated fingers side by side (e.g. thumb + index), > bring together i.e. pinch. > Zoom out - two fingers side by side (e.g. thumb + index), spread. > Note: Wacom scrolling direction is reversed from typical scrolling > implementations. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
Re: [Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Single finger (1FG) Left click - tap, actual click happens after TapTime period elapses. Left click drag - tap to select, quickly (within TapTime period) touch selection again. Then drag. Two finger (2FG) Right click - one finger down + tap second finger Vertical scroll - two fingers side by side (e.g. index + second), move up or down holding constant distance between fingers. Horizontal scroll - two fingers side by side (e.g. index + second), move left or right holding constant distance between fingers. Zoom in - two separated fingers side by side (e.g. thumb + index), bring together i.e. pinch. Zoom out - two fingers side by side (e.g. thumb + index), spread. Note: Wacom scrolling direction is reversed from typical scrolling implementations. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
[Linuxwacom-devel] Touchpad?
Does linuxwacom support a touchpad-like mode? That is, only "tapping" creates a click while physically dragging only moves the mouse pointer. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Linuxwacom-devel mailing list Linuxwacom-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxwacom-devel
