Re: Networking a Lisa

[Philip Lord]

Thanks James,
I will try to connect the Lisa to another mac with an older system.  
See if this helps.


I have tried to see the Lisa from the Wallstreet side but nothing  
appears in the chooser. I will double check again that sharing on the  
Lisa side is on.


Thanks again for the info, I will let you all know how I go.

Phil





On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:17 AM, James MacPhail wrote:


I have a hacked (not by me) localtalk connector

The lisa is running OS 6.0.8, and the Wallstreet is running 9.2.

when using the chooser I can see the Wallstreet, I can even  
attempt to

connect, and the Lisa displays a list of Wallstreet volumes.



I think this indicates you do have (more or less) appropriate software
installed and your hacked localtalk connector is working.



However, when I try to fully connect, nothing happens!!!

Trying the same thing on the Lisa under OS 7.0.1 causes the system to
crash with the error:

"Sorry, a system error occurred. "Chooser" divide by zero"



I have observed a similar issue with various computers running system
software pre MacOS 8, including a MacPlus, and IIsi.

I believe the reason is that Apple implemented a new "User  
Authentication
Module" around the time of Mac OS 8 to improve security, and for  
whatever
reason, it is not fully backwards-compatible (or perhaps you need  
to find

just the right version of the AppleShare Workstation Software).

Searching around on Apple's web site, I found various technotes  
including

this one:

  

Which says, in part:

"Computers that are running system software earlier than system  
software
7.5.1 should run AppleShare Workstation 3.5. Computers that are  
running
system software 7.5.1 or later (up to but not including 7.5.3)  
should run

AppleShare Workstation 3.6.5."

Of course any particular version won't necessarily work on the  
Lisa, but it

gives you a limit as to how new a version is worth trying.

If you do find a particular combination of system software and  
AppleShare
software that does allow you to mount a MacOS 9 volume on your  
Lisa, please

let us know!

Suggestions:

I find that the newer system versions can mount volumes shared by  
the older
versions. ie. if you run System 7.x on your Lisa, and turn on file  
sharing,

you may be able to mount it on the Wallstreet.

Alternately, I use an older computer running System 7.5.5 as a file  
server.
I then mount a volume from this on both older and newer computers,  
and use
it to transfer files between them. Since I change configurations  
often, I
find the extra hop is less trouble than fiddling with file sharing  
in each

new configuration.

HTH,

James

James MacPhail   "Think not of engineering as art,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but of art as engineering"
Sigma Seven Systems Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Networking a Lisa

[James MacPhail]

>I have a hacked (not by me) localtalk connector
>
>The lisa is running OS 6.0.8, and the Wallstreet is running 9.2.
>
>when using the chooser I can see the Wallstreet, I can even attempt to
>connect, and the Lisa displays a list of Wallstreet volumes.


I think this indicates you do have (more or less) appropriate software
installed and your hacked localtalk connector is working.


>However, when I try to fully connect, nothing happens!!!
>
>Trying the same thing on the Lisa under OS 7.0.1 causes the system to
>crash with the error:
>
>"Sorry, a system error occurred. "Chooser" divide by zero"


I have observed a similar issue with various computers running system
software pre MacOS 8, including a MacPlus, and IIsi.

I believe the reason is that Apple implemented a new "User Authentication
Module" around the time of Mac OS 8 to improve security, and for whatever
reason, it is not fully backwards-compatible (or perhaps you need to find
just the right version of the AppleShare Workstation Software).

Searching around on Apple's web site, I found various technotes including
this one:

  

Which says, in part:

"Computers that are running system software earlier than system software
7.5.1 should run AppleShare Workstation 3.5. Computers that are running
system software 7.5.1 or later (up to but not including 7.5.3) should run
AppleShare Workstation 3.6.5."

Of course any particular version won't necessarily work on the Lisa, but it
gives you a limit as to how new a version is worth trying.

If you do find a particular combination of system software and AppleShare
software that does allow you to mount a MacOS 9 volume on your Lisa, please
let us know!

Suggestions:

I find that the newer system versions can mount volumes shared by the older
versions. ie. if you run System 7.x on your Lisa, and turn on file sharing,
you may be able to mount it on the Wallstreet.

Alternately, I use an older computer running System 7.5.5 as a file server.
I then mount a volume from this on both older and newer computers, and use
it to transfer files between them. Since I change configurations often, I
find the extra hop is less trouble than fiddling with file sharing in each
new configuration.

HTH,

James

James MacPhail   "Think not of engineering as art,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but of art as engineering"
Sigma Seven Systems Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Networking a Lisa

[Philip Lord]

Hi everyone,
Not much activity on the list recently, so I thought I'd start  
another thread.


I have a hacked (not by me) localtalk connector that connects into  
the back of my lisa, I am trying to connect to an old(ish) Powerbook  
Wallstreet. with a similar localtalk connector.


The lisa is running OS 6.0.8, and the Wallstreet is running 9.2.

I think I have installed all the appropriate networking extensions  
for OS 6 on the lisa, and when using the chooser I can see the  
Wallstreet, I can even attempt to connect, and the Lisa displays a  
list of Wallstreet volumes. So everything looks perfectly normal up  
until this point. However, when I try to fully connect, nothing  
happens!!!


Trying the same thing on the Lisa under OS 7.0.1 causes the system to  
crash with the error:


"Sorry, a system error occurred. "Chooser" divide by zero"

and a prompt to restart. Again I can get all the way to seeing the  
list of Wallstreet volumes, but the crash happens once I try to connect.


Anybody have any ideas how to resolve this?

Cheers

Phil


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